the roman hamburger (6)

1 Name: nobuyuki!GfMr2LTKW. 2005-04-10 20:31 ID:VOtHPumN

I know this is going to sound silly, but I've heard many places that the first historical recipe for hamburger came from ancient Rome. However, though I've seen this quoted many places (as well as seen at least one show backing this up), I have yet to find this recipe for roman hamburger.

If any of you can help me find the source, I'd gladly appreciate it. :9

2 Name: Apprentice Chef 2005-10-11 05:45 ID:lsiBbsiu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburgers#History
here, one tiiny step closer to your goal.

3 Name: Apprentice Chef 2005-10-11 23:02 ID:UtgMCOrm

ISICIA OMENTATA (a kind of Roman Burgers)

(Apic. 2, 1, 7)

Ingredients:
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500g minced meat
1 french roll, soaked in white wine
1/2 tsp freshly ground pepper
50ml Liquamen (can be replaced by 1/2 tsp salt + a little white wine)
some stone-pine kernels and green peppercorns
a little Caroenum
Baking foil

Instructions:
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Mix minced meat with the soaked french roll. Ground spices and mix into
the meat. Form small burgers and put pine kernels and peppercorns into
them. Put them into baking foil and grill them together with Caroenum.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mjw/recipes/ethnic/historical/ant-rom-coll.html#3
...something like this?

4 Name: Apprentice Chef 2005-10-12 01:56 ID:wH5Sv3xn

>>3
How many of those ingredients do you think you could still get these days?

5 Name: Apprentice Chef 2005-10-12 12:30 ID:NmcPQAQo

3 here (-_-)/

Caroenum and Liquamen are the only things that don't seem to be around anymore..

Liquamen is basically like thai fish sauce, so you could try using that.

Caroenum seems to be wine that's been boiled until its 2/3s reduced and mixed with honey..? I got the Caroenum info from:

http://www.romans-in-britain.org.uk/arl_roman_recipes_ingedients.htm

Maybe you could try boiling grape juice a whole lot?

off topic: It's possible to buy that fake balsamic vinegar and just reduce it a ton, so it tastes much more similiar to the real kind, and still way cheaper!

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