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This is just something i thought up sometime ago.
For awhile now i've had this idea for an Anonymous IRC network. Basically, upon connect change a users nick to some form of Anonymous.
My original idea went something like this:
Have really only one main channel since I doubt this would be a big network. Ban !@. Set +e (except) on the nicks (For example +e Anonymous!@) and then set +N so no one can change their nick once they enter. Also, disable nickserv.
There'd be one or two ops just to make sure nothing got out of hand or really dumb.
I don't personally think this is a great idea, just something going around in my mind. What do you guys think? I think it might be neat, but we're doing fine without it and wouldn't really benefit from it. So, do you have suggestion on how to improve this idea, or are you interested? Perhaps we can make it a reality.
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IRC won't let two users have the same nick.
That said, IRC can do one better than that: some servers allow you to set modes so you can't see who is in channel, and (IIRC) can't tell who said what either.
The acronym IIRC has always bothered my mind, it looks too much like IRC.
Back in the day when I was on IRC and the 'guest' name was already taken, it would add a prefix of numbers to the guest name.
Guest-32342
Guest-25543
etc..
It probably still does that today. So I dont see why when people join the server, they are forced anonymous to Anon-32345 or Anon-20032. Sounds good in theory, but will people join the live chat as anonymous?
You can see whoever logs in's hostname, making it non-anonymous...
>>7
Could be countered with bouncers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouncer_%28IRC%29
You could always apply a mask to their hostnames to protect their identity. Many irc servers offer this service and I dont see why you couldn't mask eveyone on default.
I've never dealt with ircd's before, so now im playing around with dancer (what freenode uses) and unrealircd. I'll see what I can find.
> they are forced anonymous to Anon-32345 or Anon-20032
Which means you can still differentiate people.
This might be a good thing though. Considering that quite often several conversations occur at once in an IRC channel, it could be terribly confusing if there was no way to track who was saying what.
Well, try it for yourself. According to RFC2811, setting a channel +a will make it anonymous. I don't know how many ircd actually support it, and some seem to use +a for other things.
Differentiating people for the span of a conversation is something else than having (semi-)fixed handles. It's more or less what ID codes on here can be.
Trivia: 4 of the 5 most popular boards on 2channel have IDs enabled and forced.
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Look here: http://stats.2ch.net/suzume.cgi?yes
Boards post rates fluctuate all the time, though, so my comment might be off.
For a comprehensive view about what ID types are enabled on each 2ch board, please see:
http://www.d1.dion.ne.jp/~noripo/etc/2ch_id.html
and http://www.d1.dion.ne.jp/~noripo/etc/2ch_id2.html
(See also http://ansitu.xrea.jp/guidance/)
Trivia: To see all the config settings of a 2ch board, just append SETTING.TXT to its URL:
http://etc3.2ch.net/qa/ → http://etc3.2ch.net/qa/SETTING.TXT
PS:
強制ID = FORCED_ID
IDなし = ID Disabled
任意ID = Arbitrary ID (ID disabled if something is in your E-Mail field)
任意ID is totally ridiculous, so of course that's why it's the Kareha default.
Im new around here, and >>15 just solved the 'every id is usually heaven when they sage' question that I have yet to ask.
Even more trivia:
Some boards have even funkier settings, >>14 lists just the main ones.
強制IP = FORCED_IP → your IP is included with each post.
IDなし+任意リモホ = Arbitrary ID + "Rimoho"(?) (I don't really understand this one, the info may be outdated but the morning coffee board (second/most popular board on 2ch) has this one)
強制リモホ = FORCED_"Rimoho"(?) - again, no idea
半強制ID = Half-compulsory ID (only certain keywords/regexps will hide your ID)
"Rimoho" is short for "Remote Host" (リモートホスト)
Why is it ridiculous?
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I beleive what he meant is "it doesn't make sense"
but an email address often gives reference to who you are.
in theory disabling the ID like this should give one form of identification while lacking another.
In practice, the only thing people enter in their email address is sage.
>>21
I see people entering their e-mail adress all the time on here.
On Futaba Channel it is also common to enter the URL of your site in there, if you are an artist. It seems like most artists don't want to openly advertise their site, so they kind of hide it in the e-mail field - only recently some boards there updated to versions that would generate hyperlinks.
I'd still like to know what this whole RemoteHost_ID thing is, btw.
>>22
It prints your remote host, like frik543435.broadband.ne.mediaone.net
>>23
Ooooooh, yeah, I could have thought of that myself. Thanks.
>In practice, the only thing people enter in their email address is sage.
Lies!!
It appears that a post has been made which puts >>21 to shame. All rise for the entrance of Alexander to this unworthy thread.
This thread is back to being about IRC!