[Internet War] YTMND, SA, Fark, 4chan vs. ebaumsworld (41)

1 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-08 22:07 ID:E+1iBj61

I lol'd

2 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-09 00:34 ID:ZnCSinbG

details plz

3 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-09 01:17 ID:NcE1QUCh

ebaumsworld steals YTMND content
YTMND users publicly call for forum invasion
4chan joins in
ebaumsworld simply shut down their forums (they are still shut down as of now)
YTMND and 4chan attempt DDoS, maybe it costs ebaums $3 or so, but no significant effect

4 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-09 01:36 ID:A6LZvWRQ

I root for anything that bothers the petrarchy of internet filth

5 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-09 02:08 ID:TYKf4ZTc

Is there a Wikipedia article about this yet?

6 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-09 02:25 ID:Heaven

7 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-09 04:04 ID:Heaven

YTMND has original content that its users can get upset over having been stolen?

8 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-09 11:02 ID:Heaven

9 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-09 23:21 ID:Heaven

>>3
I know what you mean, but please don't use the word "steal" to refer to copyright infringement. It's wrong to use the word that way (and also an act of piracy).

10 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-10 06:59 ID:nDfUy5Tz

Hasn't ebaums been doing this for years O:

11 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-10 09:58 ID:Heaven

I don't like ebaumsworld, but AOL-policing it to death would set a scary precedent...

12 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-10 11:20 ID:Heaven

Internet-drama in the west, lol

13 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-10 14:59 ID:LIjl34Rs

>>9
I would call it stealing if you're getting rich from it. Pirating a movie, burning it onto DVD-Rs and selling them (especially for more than the cost of the media) isn't cool. This is really what Ebaum is doing. He's getting rich from other peoples' work, and that's not cool.

14 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-10 16:20 ID:Heaven

>>13
So Ebaum is a jerk, but it's still not stealing. Confusing different concepts under the same name is a bad precedent. I attempted to illustrate this by calling >>3's improper word choice "piracy", but I guess that was too subtle for you.

Also I agree with >>11.

15 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-11 06:50 ID:Heaven

You guys forget the whole "malicious anti-SA code on the front page" thing. THAT is illegal.

Also, intellectual property is still property. Theft is still theft.

16 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-11 09:27 ID:Heaven

> intellectual property is still property

How so? It's not something that can be taken away from you.

17 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-11 10:09 ID:Heaven

Neither is identity, but identity theft is still a crime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property

There you go. The concept of "intellectual property" is nothing new.

18 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-11 15:11 ID:Heaven

>>15,17
"Intellectual property" and "identity theft" are just terms people have started to use, but they are not really property or theft respectively. You may have a point about the malicious anti-SA code, though.

19 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-12 21:38 ID:ZJhm3gCM

from wikipedia:

> YTMND users have persuaded others from Newgrounds, 4chan, adult swim, KNova, Fark, GameFAQs

Despite lurking on 4chan, the only thread I've noticed on 4chan namedropping "eboums world" is a thread in /dis/ that says "ebaum sucks". That's hardly joining a raid.

20 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-12 23:22 ID:Heaven

>>19
Maybe you need to look at /b/ more.

21 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-14 01:29 ID:CO36uOVM

I think what draws ire to ebaumsworld isn't so much the use of the content(a lot of it is also on other "lol funny video/flash" sites) but the blatant watermarking of everything with the ebaums logo.

22 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-14 01:58 ID:dz2Om6Mg

This is great. You think Bauman isn't stealing? He's committing thievery, just like all of us who download liscensed mp3's. It's not different. .mp3's aren't something that can be taken away from you. They are just copies, just like everything on Bauman's site. And not only does he steal all of that stuff, along with branding it with his logo, he REMOVES any credit that may have been on the content previously, even if he has to tear the Flash file apart. Sorry >>16, that's ILLEGAL.

23 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-14 07:08 ID:T+VRaWr2

That SA megathread just made things a whole lot more interesting

24 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-14 16:51 ID:+8liq9cB

>>22
Please note that illegitimate copying is not stealing. Neither in a legal legal, nor in an ethical way.

25 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-14 16:52 ID:+8liq9cB

legal way, not legal legal
OTL

26 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-14 20:13 ID:Heaven

>>24
YTMND, Newgrounds, 4chan, adult swim, KNova, Fark, and GameFAQs seem to disagree with you on ethical terms.

And anyways, the laws need to be interpreted differently in internet disputes. This isn't an opinion, it is a fact proven by the mp3 controversy of lore that was nothing but "illegitimate copying" of music.

27 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-14 22:14 ID:+8liq9cB

So you mean the RIAA propaganda that compares illegitimate copying with stealing (note that you don't have a stolen object anymore, after it was stolen) and piracy (that is pillaging, murdering (killing people) etc. on the high seas) should be made into law?

28 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-15 00:32 ID:Heaven

  1. I think that linking thing ebaumsworld did to SA was funny as hell
  2. >>24 is right, sorry guys
  3. who the fuck cares about this shit in the first place. They are all a bunch of crappy sites tearing at each other like raptors. It's all shit!

29 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-15 00:55 ID:dz2Om6Mg

>>27
I mean you should grow up and think of a better arguement than, "Words can't have more than one meaning."

30 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-15 04:58 ID:Heaven

Rebranding everything is more like "plagiarism" than "illegitimate copying". That's why everyone is so pissed off. His watermark is ugly, too.

>>29
http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/5002/theft.html ?

31 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-15 08:15 ID:dz2Om6Mg

>>30 McOrmond is Canadian and thus obselete

32 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-15 17:38 ID:Heaven

>>31
Try less ad Hominem and more arguments.

33 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-15 19:53 ID:Heaven

>>32 Tell that to Neil LOL

34 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-16 00:33 ID:Heaven

Something Awful is just as bad as ebaum because of this whole gay Chuck Norris thing. Who the fuck cares about this actor.

35 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-17 10:10 ID:Heaven

>>34
No one at all, which is why Chuck Norris/Vin Diesel jokes are so funny; the realization that in reality, no one really gives a shit about either of them.

Lurk moar or GTFO.

36 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-17 16:35 ID:Heaven

So, they're funny because they're not funny.

37 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-18 05:47 ID:NcE1QUCh

>>35
That's still not funny.

38 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-18 21:08 ID:Heaven

The only people I know who read SA are 15-year-olds

39 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-18 21:54 ID:Heaven

>>38
the only people i know who will even admit to knowing what SA is are 15-year-olds

40 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-19 04:28 ID:NcE1QUCh

>>39
But most of 4chan probably...
huh. Yeah.

41 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-01-19 19:36 ID:E7sRmsWf

>>4chan
i lol'd!

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