Suprnova, Exeem and Just Another P2P Network (TM)? (11)

1 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E 04/12/31(Fri)01:59 ID:ESwRh6jZ [Del]

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/30/2311234&threshold=4&tid=95

We all detest /. to some degree, but this might be of interest.

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First, Exeem really isn't an extension of Suprnova as the hype might have you believe: the connection between the two seems more marketing than anything else. Sloncek has been hired to promote their product as the heir apparent to his popular website, but his involvement really seems to be almost entirely PR. It'll work obviously: my headline on this story mentions Suprnova, and so will hundreds of websites around the world in the coming days. "Yet another p2p app" would not create anywhere near the waves that "Successor to Suprnova Announced" will. I hope that people judge exeem by its own merits and not by its (clever) marketing.

Second, Exeem is pretty much what was rumored earlier: a blending of the tracker, the BitTorrent client, and decentralized indexing. It's Windows only. It's in beta now, and will be out at some indeterminate date in the future. It also has a rating and commenting system which appears to be somewhat rudimentary. It's unclear to me if the rating system will be as useless as other attempts, and I think this is the critical thing: Suprnova succeeded because the content available on it was verified and trustworthy. Suprnova was as much the work of a few dozen editors as it was a list of torrent URLs. So far no other p2p system has achieved that level of accuracy. Exeem supports magnet sites which is a start, but not exactly p2p either. And did I mention that it's adware?

Third, there's a mystery company. Someone is paying Sloncek. He won't say who, but there's a history in the p2p world of secretive development. Since Exeem is to be adware, someday it will have a billing address, which means the legal issues faced by predecessors like Napster and Kazaa will be forthcoming, which is of course why we have a mystery company that Sloncek won't talk about in the first place. We definitely haven't heard the last of this.

Personally I was hoping for more: source code and cross platform compatibility never hurts. These are the things that made BitTorrent a huge success. I guess I was hoping for a new protocol instead of just another Kazaa. I guess I was hoping for a monumental leap, and instead Exeem to be a more incremental step. I'm sure we'll learn more in the coming weeks.

2 Name: Yaranaika Daddy!K./5Izeg0I 04/12/31(Fri)04:21 ID:Heaven [Del]

BitTorrent in my eyes is a solution that helps website owners distrobute large files that would massacre their bandwidth if done by plain old HTTP/FTP, and makes other users help out with the bandwidth.

As for this "Exeem" thing, it seems like another version of Kazaa. Including the goddamn adware/spyware. Why do I think c2 media or Gator have something to do with this, but are keeping their mouths shut in fear of getting in deep shit for "funding warez" ?

I would like to see someone do an ad-free, opensource variety. Maybe we (the users) can improve it a bit, no?

3 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E 04/12/31(Fri)04:43 ID:RSOzw8rn [Del]

There's always stuff like Gnucleus, although the last time I tried it (mind you it was three years ago) the speed and reliability of the gnutella network left something to be desired.

4 Name: !WAHa.06x36 04/12/31(Fri)12:25 ID:ihvMj79g [Del]

Actually, what made BitTorrent popular was not the open source and cross platform compatibility, although those probably helped to some extent (by building goodwill if nothing else).

What really made BitTorrent big was the transparency and ease of use. You clicked on a link on a webpage, and you got your file. This opened it up to a much larger audience than those who can bother to download, setup and learn a whole new program just to get their file.

It succeeded because it was minimalist - if you put all the complexity back in, it won't be better. The warez kiddies will use it, but they'll use anything that gets them their files. Normal people won't be so easily impressed.

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6 Name: Guest: 04/12/31(Fri)14:49 ID:YRsPZ67r [Del]

So it's like BitTorrent, only with adware, spyware, malware, isn't cross-platform, or open source, and will no doubt run like shit.

Yet Another P2P App.

7 Name: Guest: 04/12/31(Fri)18:03 ID:vpejEc9I [Del]

it's like kaaza and bittorrent together
and their are going to be some ads displayed
but most of the ads r goin to be optional it's ok
there was a company
that offered me help me releasing the program
and we agred to it
so you will be geting some ads
it works on the 200 mega-hertz computer with 128 mega-bytes of the RAM
we don't have any plans for the lenux or the mac version
but every file that you download you'll be able to raet it OK or not OK
its going to be public beta relese vary soon OK

8 Name: Guest: 04/12/31(Fri)18:20 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>4
Also because there was no central company/server that could be sued and take the whole network down with it.

9 Name: Guest: 04/12/31(Fri)19:21 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>8

Yeah, but Direct Connect was already such a system.

10 Name: Yaranaika Daddy!K./5Izeg0I 05/01/01(Sat)12:04 ID:Heaven [Del]

Here is what BitTorrent is really useful for:

http://www.postgresql.org/download/bittorrent

http://f.scarywater.net/

Website/s that need a way of distrobuting large files easily. Bram Cohen is quoted saying he created it for the Etree community (http://etree.org). I'm afraid BitTorrent, even the standalone client is becoming too "Suprnova" Orientated.

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