WMVs won't play (20)

1 Name: Sling!XD/uSlingU 2005-03-14 01:02 ID:lQX/9jSO

The WMVs I'm getting from the web, specially jp sites, don't play. They have some kind of extra as header, ending with

HTTP/1.1 206 Partial Content
Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:07:55 GMT
Content-Type: video/x-ms-wmv
Last-Modified: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:53:49 GMT
ETag: "1a2f81227d7c41:15e8"
Content-Length: 171717869
Content-Range: bytes 0-171717868/171717869

before the proper start of "0&[etc]". I can manually crop that stuff out but it's a pain. Plus, I suspect I have to crop something at the end too as otherwise my player complains that the video index is shot.

Is there a program that can automatically and properly remove that extra header/footer?
Or a player that can play those kind of WMVs?
Or, what is the proper end string of an WMV?

2 Name: Albright!LC/IWhc3yc 2005-03-14 02:13 ID:HZR3RkDQ

Weird. Are you trying to download the files directly to disk instead of, say, displaying them in a web browser?

3 Name: Sling!XD/uSlingU 2005-03-14 03:25 ID:lQX/9jSO

O download the files directly to disk
X displaying them in a web browser

4 Name: Albright!LC/IWhc3yc 2005-03-15 00:23 ID:HZR3RkDQ

...Right. Care to elaborate in full English sentences?

5 Name: Sling!XD/uSlingU 2005-03-15 01:51 ID:lQX/9jSO

I don't like watching movies in a browser. No full screen, for one thing. Secondly, watching streamed movies has always been a very painful experience for me. 1 frame - freeze - 1 frame - freeze - movie finished (what?!). WMV/ASF/RM are a streaming failure. QT got it right (but got everything else wrong in the Windows version, so I refuse to install it.) Besides, even if it worked, the pauses would break the viewing experience. Also, WMV gamma/brightness controls don't work, I always have to fiddle with my monitor's brightness button before I can see something other than pitch black.
So I always save to disk before viewing.

6 Name: 404 - Name Not Found 2005-03-15 02:22 ID:Heaven

what if you view the saved copies in a web browser and re-save them?

7 Name: bubu!bUBu/A.ra6 2005-03-15 02:45 ID:Heaven

>Or, what is the proper end string of an WMV?

WMV files don't have a "standard" footer.
Some last bytes from some (3) different wmv files as a proof:
mezdi-glindesdi-14-3-entira.wmv:
 Û  €–˜
damaun-sonda-12-3-entira.wmv:
DDÇ1C
saira-gievgia-10-3-entira.wmv:
Pÿöí–¸ø¸ø¿h$¿A
secondly, are you experiencing this problem with all your WMVs? and more importantly, what exactly are you doing to them?

8 Name: Sling!XD/uSlingU 2005-03-15 05:45 ID:lQX/9jSO

>>6
What happens is that Firefox automatically turns over the file to my MediaPlayer, which cannot play the file. That's if I load it from my hard disk into FF. No filtering done, if that's what you mean. Loading from the web, FF wants to save it to disk. Well, those behaviors are per design, this is how I set it to behave.

I think it's some MS's "smart" idea of an informative header, and not [yet?] implemented in current browsers except possibly IE.
I see Device Conformance Template in that header.

9 Name: Sling!XD/uSlingU 2005-03-15 05:52 ID:lQX/9jSO

>>7

>secondly, are you experiencing this problem with all your WMVs?

Japanese ones, promo files gotten from jp official sites.
P2P-gotten files are always perfect, no crap header.

>and more importantly, what exactly are you doing to them?

The last one, I used ReGet to get it. The others, I believe I got them thru Firefox's download-to-disk.

10 Name: bubuFIREFOXHATESLIFE666WASHERE!bUBu/A.ra6 2005-03-15 09:05 ID:Heaven

>XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
>Location: http://4-ch.net/net/kareha.pl/1110762173/
>Line Number 8, Column 738:

KEKKOOOONEEEEEEN

>>8,9
Device Conformance Template is part of the correct .wmv header starting with 0&.

>Japanese ones, promo files gotten from jp official sites.

Would you mind giving an example url?

11 Name: Sling!XD/uSlingU 2005-03-15 14:16 ID:lQX/9jSO

>Would you mind giving an example url?

www.grenadier.jp/3oivideo.wmv [1,298,900 bytes]

12 Name: bubu!bUBu/A.ra6 2005-03-15 16:36 ID:Heaven

>>11
useful info of the day: the file plays perfectly and starts with 0&, as it should (big surprise), both using firefux and reGET!

Are you by any chance behind a proxy that has forced header insertion enabled? In this case "find a non-misconfigured proxy, problem solved!".

13 Name: Sling!XD/uSlingU 2005-03-15 17:02 ID:lQX/9jSO

Oi oi... something is weird here.
I redownloaded it now [I dled it a long time ago] and the weird header is gone for me too. And this one plays fine, of course.
But the size of the old dl and the new dl is the same?!
I'm puzzled. I'm gonna have to test this new behavior with other wmv's. Maybe my computer was weird before.
What did I change? I allowed WindowsMediaPlayer to upgrade itself to version 10. Maybe that did the trick.

14 Name: 404 - Name Not Found 2005-03-15 17:09 ID:Heaven

Using version 8.0.0.4490 of WMP here, never saw a reason to upgrade to their spyware bloated newer versions since simply getting others players that can do the same and do so better.

15 Name: bubu!bUBu/A.ra6 2005-03-15 20:14 ID:Heaven

I have a question for you, now, fellow ReGet user >>1

"HOW IN THE HELL DO I SWITCH LANGUAGE ON THAT THING?"

I downloaded that reget deluxe trial version, to reproduce your error for >>11.
It insists (no dialog concerning that) on installing and running in German.
Neither the docs nor the site offer info on how to get rid of the devil's language, although it says "International Multilanguage Version", and I don't really want the huns to invade my computer.
I wonder how it gets the idea, since nothing on or even so much as near this computer is remotely german.

16 Name: Sling!XD/uSlingU 2005-03-15 23:55 ID:lQX/9jSO

I use ReGet Pro, a very old version 1.3.2 [1998].
And guess what? It was the culprit! ReGet 1.3.2 is the one who was adding that header. First time ever it failed me.
I'm gonna get a newer version to try.

17 Name: Sling!XD/uSlingU 2005-03-16 00:04 ID:lQX/9jSO

Ok: with RegetPro v3.4, to change the language:
View -> Language -> English.
The change is instant.
It was already in English for me, I changed to Bulgarian, it did, then I went back to English - no problem.

18 Name: Sling!XD/uSlingU 2005-03-16 00:21 ID:lQX/9jSO

OK I tried to get www.grenadier.jp/3oivideo.wmv with ReGet 3.4 and it fails.
Error 11 1:13:28 3/16/2005 Error #80004005(Unspecified error) in CRgHttpSession::RequestFile()

While I had no problem dling earlier using Firefox.
Seems that ReGet chokes on that file.

19 Name: KJI!XDpPLAUYlQ 2005-03-23 05:42 ID:nUMlGE4M

With XPSP2, not streaming Windows media works for me. :(

20 Name: KJI!XDpPLAUYlQ 2005-03-23 05:44 ID:nUMlGE4M

*With XPSP2, any streaming windows media doesn't work for me. :(

Can't figure out how I typed that last one.

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