College student commits suicide with help from newsgroup (13)

1 Name: Albright!LC/IWhc3yc 2005-11-11 05:13 ID:y+1a2XxA

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found 2005-11-11 05:27 ID:Heaven

Sort of reminds me of an episode of Paranoia Agent...

and also the Overdosing Mirc guy from a while back.

3 Name: 404 - Name Not Found 2005-11-11 09:18 ID:Heaven

I TOLD U I WAS HARDCORE

4 Name: 404 - Name Not Found 2005-11-11 17:11 ID:FhI8GobV

Finally, some fair reporting about an Internet subculture. But they gave the wrong impression by ending the story with the parents' (false) impression that their daughter was pushed to suicide by some random people on a newsgroup.

5 Name: 404 - Name Not Found 2005-11-11 19:45 ID:Heaven

america - fuck yeah!

6 Name: 404 - Name Not Found 2005-11-12 13:42 ID:uI84wyr6

I'm sure the newsgroup was a factor in her suicide. However, the parents are just looking for somewhere to point the finger. Poor parenting and the girl's own mental weakness were probably just as significant towards the suicide as the newsgroup was.

But hey, I don't really see suicide as a crime or anything. It's your life, so as long as you don't suicide in a really disruptive manner then it's your right.

7 Name: 404 - Name Not Found 2005-11-12 17:13 ID:Heaven

I totally disagree with >>6. Depression is a mental illness, it affects a lot of people, and it's just as real as any other illness. It has nothing to do with a weak mind, nor (in the general case, and probably in this case) with poor parenting.

Furthermore, suicide severely disrupts the lives of the survivors who knew and cared about the person.

I write this as someone with a relative who recently attempted suicide. He is not at all weak-minded. If he had succeeded, everyone in the family would be suffering.

8 Name: 404 - Name Not Found 2005-11-12 20:39 ID:FhI8GobV

Depression is a mental illness, and ashers realize that, but suicide can be separate from depression.

9 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E 2005-11-13 01:38 ID:Heaven

The unfortunate part is that people who commit suicide as a result of depression usually do so on the upswing.

When they're in the depths of depression, they often don't have the will to even get out of bed, let alone something like suicide. It's when they start recovering that they become capable of it.

10 Name: 404 - Name Not Found 2005-11-13 03:35 ID:pW1HIeaf

I don't believe that anyone can commit suicide without some mental illness being involved. It is not a thing that makes sense.

If >>8 believes otherwise, I encourage >>8 to explain why.

11 Name: GIU!xGvMx4A89M 2005-11-15 12:16 ID:OAEGkRuR

It seems to be a matter of definitions.
So the argument would make two of you play a cat-and-mouth game.

12 Name: 404 - Name Not Found 2005-11-15 18:19 ID:5Hd1KeFq

>>10

Where did >>8 say that. I see a post presenting a distinction between suicide and the specific mental illness of depression. I see no statement about whether or not anything is required.

13 Name: 404 - Name Not Found 2005-11-15 18:21 ID:5Hd1KeFq

>>11
To me, it seems like a complete misinterpretation of statement presented by >>8 .

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