Its been over 60 years since the end of WWII (39)

1 名前: Larrikin 2005-07-13 22:34 ID:/VfMIEB5

Why the hell hasn't Japan done something about their censored porn laws

2 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-07-14 12:18 ID:Heaven

テレビでマンコを映しちゃいけないし、ちゃんと規制してるじゃん。
何が不満なんだい?

3 名前: 2005-07-14 22:31 ID:Heaven

>>1
Thanks for the stupidly arrogant post, gaijin. As much as you dislike having to masturbate to lolikon and it's censored "all the good bits" you must understand that Japanese's local laws do not exist to suit you, the foreigner but instead the Japanese people, and I don't exactly see them by the thousands or millions trying to change it. We the Japanese do live in a democratic society, and if we wish to change it, that's our choice. Go back to eating hot dogs and drinking weak coffee, amerikajin.

4 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-07-15 01:19 ID:Heaven

How do you say "owned" in Japanese?

5 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-07-15 10:28 ID:/VfMIEB5

Thanks for the unecessary amount of racism in your post, I simply asked the question since censored porn kind of defeats the point of porn and no one Ive ever talked to can explain to me why its being kept censored. You didn't answer the question at all, all you did was hurl insult my way

6 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-07-15 10:37 ID:Heaven

>>4

I've been wondering, too.

7 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-07-15 11:12 ID:Heaven

i think >>3 is american. because only fat americans geeks likes lolikon

8 名前: 2005-07-15 13:36 ID:Heaven

>>7

Not true. Many Japanese men and women have a hiding secret to their love for little girls.

9 名前: 3 2005-07-15 13:40 ID:Heaven

>>5

It's a pity you couldn't have started a thread with sounded a little more polite instead of the short, blunt and rude statement you made. Then maybe I would have given you respect. Right now, the only thing I could give you is some more insults, and some dog shit on your doorstep.

10 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-07-15 15:04 ID:/VfMIEB5

Im sorry for not writing a paragraph beating around the bush for a simple question. There no need for assholes in my thread, so unless you're going to contribute something useful go be racist somewhere else.

12 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-07-15 17:45 ID:Heaven

>>10

You are adressing Japanese people here with swearing and an implicated rudeness (which admittedly could stem from simple ignorance). Just deal with the fact that they are just most likely to make fun of you if you come of as rude or ignorant.

13 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-07-15 20:44 ID:MYo7NwME

>>i think >>3 is american.

and a troll.

C+

14 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-08-05 17:48 ID:Heaven

This is upsetting...
To think americans and japanese can't get along even with a misunderstanding.

15 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-08-24 07:10 ID:UCH3mNq+

>>14

Um. most Japanese are respectful to english speakers in games as long as they arent being complete retards

16 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-08-24 10:20 ID:Heaven

> as long as they arent being complete retards

Therein lies the rub.

17 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-08-24 13:41 ID:Wlwtknyf

Forgive me if I am wrong, but don't the laws related to censoring date back to the eighteen hundreds, and therfore have nothing to do with the war, despite >>1's blame America attitude?

18 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-08-25 06:51 ID:Heaven

I tried to go to Wikipedia to find informations but apparently there isn't an article yet. Somebody start it!:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship#Censorship_around_the_world

19 名前: Sling!XD/uSlingU 2005-08-25 13:40 ID:Heaven

>>17
"You see, back at the tail end of the Tokugawa era in the mid-1800s, Japan was suddenly forced out of isolation by the influx of trade with American and European nations.

From the perspective of a Western visitor, Japanese culture must have seemed not only primitive but also barbaric. Public baths and brothels were commonplace, as were the aforementioned erotic art and fertility imagery in religious shrines. Japan's political leaders must have felt a great deal of shame over this because around 1900 they began banning materials "injurious to public morals." In 1907 there came Article 175 of the Criminal Code which basically made those restrictions into law. In 1918 came a law that specifically dealt with censorship of the genital region in public media. The language of the law is actually quite vague stating, "... the pubic area need not be hidden but there should be no anatomical details to draw the viewer's attention."

In the aftermath of World War II, occupation forces drew up a new constitution for Japan and it included an article which would seem to negate previous attempts at banning free speech. Article 21 reads in part, "No censorship shall be maintained, nor shall the secrecy of any means of communication be violated." Unfortunately, with the end of the occupation in 1952 came the re-enforcement of those old obscenity laws and they have been in use ever since."
member.newsguy.com/~japanav/other/avfaq.html#Q8

20 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-08-25 16:02 ID:VgcWRK1Y

> Japan's political leaders must have felt a great deal of shame over this because around 1900 they began banning materials "injurious to public morals."

More like "they wanted to suck up to the west real bad because they felt they'd soon get screwed over like China and India".

A lot of the culture, morals and laws Japan has imported from the west simply stemmed from a feeling of inferiority that cannot be simply reduced to some actual ethical inferiority but a really weird and highly perspective-dependent historical encounter with western Imperialism.

21 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-08-25 18:58 ID:jMc0P3pM

>>20
How is that not a ten dollar way of saying "felt a great deal of shame?"

22 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-08-26 00:54 ID:LGj5L/Y/

>>21
Did Japan bite into the Fruit of Knowledge?
I always thought the whole 'Adam and Eve realized they were naked' thing was stupid as hell. They might as well have eaten the apple and realized their taxes were overdue. Same analogy applies to Japan; just because you learn someone disapproves of something doesn't mean it is actually bad. They never should have changed/added those laws.

23 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-08-26 06:49 ID:Heaven

Nice strawman.

24 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-08-26 09:08 ID:Heaven

>>21

Shame ≠ Fear

25 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-08-26 14:02 ID:Heaven

>>24
Shame rises out of fear.

26 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-08-27 01:04 ID:I+R3Owz1

Fear leads to shame. Shame leads to hate. Hate leads to vicious anti-pornography laws.

27 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-08-27 07:41 ID:Heaven

>>25-26
Why didn't I ever think of it like that? Mass-psychology is just so easy, I could kick myself for not having thought of this before.

28 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-08-27 10:14 ID:Heaven

>>27
You act like there was some kind of ballet initiative or something. This decision was probably made by relatively small number of people. Their motive seems pretty lucid also: they wanted to be taken seriously by westerners.

29 名前: 27 2005-08-27 12:29 ID:Heaven

>>28
But they only cared about that because they didn't want to end up like China or India. That has nothing to do with some sort of "shame" - Asian high culture was thousands of years older than European and much more advanced in lots of regards.
The reason for the desire to be taken serious by the west was simply born out of the fear to end up as another opium deseased colony.

30 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-09-17 13:18 ID:7yGVk+rG

Why the obsession with Japanese porn laws? Buy a Hustler, or a German magazine (Europe doesn't seem to have porn laws), and let Japan write her own laws. I don't see why you need to bug them about whether they were "guilted" or "shamed" or "didn't want to be an opium colony". Perhaps they didn't want porn all over the place?

31 名前: Randy Chan 2005-10-24 17:08 ID:WI9157IR

I've heard that some AV for use with the Sony PSP is uncensored. Perhaps times are changing?

32 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-10-24 17:42 ID:KgSrf2pD

>>31

lol, like you would be able to see anything, anyway.

33 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-10-25 02:07 ID:Heaven

nowdays only DQN buy censored porn advanced people download uncensored one with p2p.
anyway, Japan is nirvana for pedos.

34 名前: Randy Chan 2005-10-25 12:35 ID:H9GWeeX2

God damn, it's disturbing with all the fetishes. Nurses, School girls and maids!

35 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-10-25 16:53 ID:2Tnp5sj3

meido-san, meido-san

36 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-10-26 07:10 ID:tcEk/ZPI

>>God damn, it's exciting with all the fetishes. Nurses, school girls, maids, and rubbernuns!

Fixed.

37 名前: Imager 2005-10-28 12:26 ID:Heaven

Hey, fuck you Japanese! It's not our fault that you all suck.

38 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-11-11 13:44 ID:D14BCfJZ

REMEMBER HIROSHIMA

39 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-11-11 22:35 ID:QWIEB7yS

>>37
Hey, fuck you, too!
It's not my fault either that you really suck.

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