Dijjer (14)

1 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E 2004-11-24 01:42 ID:/q3bZFJQ [Del]

By now I suspect most of the admins of *chan sites are hearing the rumbles about this new proggie that just hit the frontpage of the site we love to hate, slashdot: http://dijjer.sourceforge.net/

For a while we were tossing around a similar idea for IIchan, but now it looks like someone is on track to developing it. Hey, it saves us the effort. If 4chan manages to survive for a few more months, this might be the big break the *chan community needs...

2 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E 2004-11-24 01:45 ID:/q3bZFJQ [Del]

Which reminds me, there was an alternate proposal to extend wakaba so that it would create a network of servers. Ie, content and requests would be suffled between many different servers. Does anyone think that's worth following up on?

3 Name: Albright!LC/IWhc3yc 2004-11-24 15:19 ID:MnxXFwng [Del]

Hooray! Now I can surf the web with all the speed and reliability of using a P2P network!

I don't think it'll catch on. Even if it's just used for big files (as opposed to everyday surfing), it doesn't sound that much different from eDonkey, which hasn't exactly caught like wildfire either. (1.30% Downloaded. Queue Place: 503928.)

4 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-11-24 16:32 ID:TJoOROJQ [Del]

One thing I don't get... Slashdot has Mirrordot.
Why doesn't Slashdot link to Mirrordot instead of direct linking?
They should know by now that slashdotted means instant death.

5 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-24 16:32 ID:Heaven [Del]

eDonkey / EMule queues are dependent on how much you upload yourself and how much of that is wanted by the ones you want to download from. In other words: It's an actually fair P2P system, and it most respects it is unfair to bash it for that.

6 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-24 17:54 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>4

Cause, like checking for dupes, that would require actual effort on the admins' part.

7 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-11-24 19:36 ID:TJoOROJQ [Del]

. Are they lazy? All those Scores, do they read every post and grade them? Or are posts scored 1 by default until someone looks at it? They must have an army of scorers, or one little guy who is really really busy...

. The fix should be a simple programmer fix, all links renamed to mirrordot. I suspect it's mirrordot itself that doesn't want to get too slashdotted. "Please come here only after you killed that site" or something. But maybe I'm wrong.

8 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E 2004-11-24 19:58 ID:2YsKHuFg [Del]

Scores on slashdot come from people moderating. Every registered user randomly gets mod points on some days, and can use them to mod up and down posts.

And then there's the moderation of moderators...

9 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-24 22:09 ID:FaO8M7lg [Del]

It's a very elaborate and clever system to encourage groupthink and discourage unpopular opinions!

10 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-11-24 22:30 ID:TJoOROJQ [Del]

Well it's a filter of sorts, no matter how good/bad it is. Imagine everything unsorted.

11 Name: Albright!LC/IWhc3yc 2004-11-25 01:32 ID:MnxXFwng [Del]

>>5: This just illustrates another PITA about filetrading networks. I leave Azureus on almost 24/7, but I can almost never upload to keep a 1:1 ratio on most of the files I nab. Why? Because my entire ISP is behind a fucking NAT, and they promote it as a bonus "for your security" or some crap. I can't seem to upload via FastTrack (Kazaa) or Gnutella at all, though OpenFT works. "Just switch ISPs" is easier said than done; in my semi-rural area, one cable ISP is my only choice. No DSL in my city of 10,500 yet...

I don't have any easy answers -- there probably are none -- but FT nets that "reward" for massive uploadage kind of lead those of us who really would like to upload but can't for reasons beyond our control in a lurch. If something like dijjer were implemented for a *Chan, would I be kicked soon after joining because others couldn't connect to and download from me?

12 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E 2004-11-25 03:07 ID:CT7uOPyQ [Del]

My understanding is that Jigger uses a UDP-punching technique. If you're just behind a plain NAT, it would work.

It doesn't say what happens to people who don't "play ball" though. I also don't quite like the fact it's in Java.

13 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E 2004-11-25 03:08 ID:gKlOA3Zw [Del]

Uh, dijjer.

14 Name: hk0!0khonVgaHI 2004-11-26 21:34 ID://CKPWnA [Del]

Actually, I think java is just fine for an app like dijjer. It's gotta be very I/O bound, so the performance of any particular java implementation is irrelevant. JREs also have a lot of pre-packaged stuff (HTTP serv/client, UDP/TCP, etc.) built in, so the guys can get it working and not worry so much about that basic stuff.
Of course, someone will re-implement in C/C++ and release a windows/linux client one day, just like they did for bittorrent.
But for now this is pretty neat.

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