Les Miserables (33)

1 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-10-26 11:02 ID:pq+6UCdH

Valjean is my hero.
He teaches us to never give up !


2 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-10-26 11:22 ID:pq+6UCdH

3 Name: Bookworm : 2008-10-27 15:42 ID:sfqjMWmB

i was reading the rebel by albert camus, in which the author promotes justice over arbitrary grace.
it caused me to agree in general, but thinking back to les miserables it is more difficult to come to a conclusion.
certainly no one would argue that by the epilogue of the novel valjean is morally correct.
but is it right to apply such thinking to society in general?

4 Name: 3 : 2008-10-27 15:44 ID:Heaven

x certainly no one would argue that by the epilogue of the novel valjean is morally correct.
○ certainly no one would argue that by the epilogue of the novel valjean is not morally correct.

5 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-10-27 16:41 ID:DJwOW+ZS

Nice to meet you. I am Unko.

There are many no grace novels now. Their works are less than Les Mise.

Hugo was a member of Priory of Sion. Novels without messages have no super power. Hugo had what he had to write.

6 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-10-27 16:56 ID:DJwOW+ZS

I've not read Camus' works. So I cannot compare between them and Les Mise.

I've not read through Les Mise. I am reading Myriel's part yet. But I read Jean Valjean story for kids yet.

I am surprised at Hugo's richness now.

7 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-10-28 15:58 ID:4AGL2l5A

Hugo always had seances.

8 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-10-31 15:52 ID:HbgN1RwY

Let have discussions with me !

9 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-11-05 16:19 ID:YGG9zU1h

Obama wins !!

Les Miserables - Master of the House (TAC)

10 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-11-09 07:47 ID:B3FmXW4F

I wish I were Hugo !

11 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-11-15 06:49 ID:so2oeKBA

Let's discussion with me !

The subject is whether Les Miserables has an influence on
Crest of the Stars or not !!


12 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-11-22 11:25 ID:f6navdGx

I've found Les Miserables audiobook unabridged at last.

Why Penguin has no Les Miserables audiobook unabridged???

Is Les Mise translated by Charles E. Wilbour easier to
read than one by Norman Denny???

13 Name: Bookworm : 2008-11-24 16:29 ID:Heaven

If I hadn't started to read the book before I read your topic, I would have never taken a look at it.

14 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-11-28 13:59 ID:HkGkAzdV


Do you know it has taken for 17 years to finish Les Mise
by Hugo, Mr Bookworm? I'm sure you know this because you
are Bookworm!

They say the shortest letter ever written is Hugo's letter
to ask the publisher about the selling "?". The reply
was "!"!

15 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-11-28 15:29 ID:HkGkAzdV

×:it has taken for 17 years
○:it took for 17 years

16 Name: Bookworm : 2008-11-28 18:53 ID:Vc/XWw7N

×:it took for 17 years
○:it took me 17 years

×:it has taken for 17 years
○:it's taken me 17 years

I just realized how confusing that must be, and in thinking about it from that perspective nearly got it wrong myself.

I'm glad you enjoyed Les Miserables if it took you that long to read it, although I guess you would have stopped after a couple of years if you didn't like it.

17 Name: Bookworm : 2008-12-03 04:01 ID:LQeLrORa

Actually it took 17 years for Hugo to write his book, that's what he meant.

18 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-12-08 16:03 ID:FcnlQEva

I know Belle is a bookworm!

Thanks for your corrections and honest advice, Bookworm.
As you pointed out implicitly, I am not good at English.

But I like Les Mise. It is hard for me to read it in English.
There are many unknown words on a line! It took an hour to read
one forth of a page to me! Who want to run away from Les Mise
is me!!

To read Les Mise is not a lesson of learning English but a
suffering for me. I am very busy because I am very active 2
channeler. So I limit it an hour to read Les Mise a week!

I hope to get a English book into me. I wanted to memorize
Bible. But I have fall into a delusion to memorize Les Mise...

19 Name: Bookworm : 2008-12-08 17:07 ID:77DVh/J/

What are you searching for in a book?
Do you want to read a book that depicts English Society? American?
A book that explores English morals and values, culture?
Or any English book, simply to improve your English?
Or for enjoyment?
I will recommend books, tell me what your purpose is for reading first however.

20 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-12-09 15:28 ID:uWnwRDSp


>What are you searching for in a book?

I need a guiding light to improve my English and my life.
And I have no occasion to use English except for posting
BBSs or reading Cisco documents privately. So I can choose
the book to memorize with a bit vanity.

21 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-12-09 15:38 ID:uWnwRDSp


>Do you want to read a book that depicts English Society? American?

I want to read the Birk and Homes in English someday.
I hope you create a thread of Anne Vs Abbott.

22 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-12-09 15:51 ID:uWnwRDSp


>A book that explores English morals and values, culture?

What I need is only reading and writing skills.
But because I am a middle aged man, I hope to get some
ideals which lead me while I learn English. I like
kill-two-birds-with-one-stone solutions.

23 Name: Bookworm : 2008-12-09 15:51 ID:cdkvhUrq

Ah I see. Well, I suggest 'The Immoralist', and also books by Dostoevsky, particularly 'Crime and Punishment' and 'The Brothers Karamazov'. However it might be difficult to get at the true nature of his meaning if you are not familiar with some of the nuances of English. However, if you can read Les Miserables, I am sure you will be perfectly able to understand him.
Also, I recommend 'The Master and Margharita' and a few of Kafka's short stories, in particular 'The Trial'.

24 Name: Bookworm : 2008-12-09 15:56 ID:cdkvhUrq

These books deal with various philosophical concerns, and are besides excellent literature. Also, they will do as well as any for the betterment of your English. I enjoyed them personally a great deal. Good luck!

25 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-12-09 16:04 ID:uWnwRDSp


>Or any English book, simply to improve your English?

Yes. Your recommend books are welcome. But I hope they
has Audio CDs.

>Or for enjoyment?

Yes. They must touch my heart. Because I am a very busy
2 channeler...

I also like fantasy and poety.

26 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2008-12-09 16:17 ID:uWnwRDSp


>I will recommend books, tell me what your purpose is for
>reading first however.

I have read networking books e...everyday in English.
So I want to read books for children.

I searched Les Mise abridged. But I couldn't find it...

27 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2009-01-24 18:10 ID:Z5h0PoO9


I like that opening animation of Syoujyo Cosset.
In the falling snow Valjean reach his hand for Cosset
to hand his love from Myriel to her...white breathes
are unforgettable images! It's beautiful!!

28 Name: Bookworm : 2009-01-24 19:05 ID:FRZj96mR

Are you unfamiliar with the concept of 'Russian literature in translation'?

29 Name: Bookworm : 2009-01-27 05:34 ID:o3rm7dDq

OP, I reccomend for you a novel of high ideals and fantasy, "The Chronicles of Amber" by Roger Zelazny. Also sample some Phillip K. Dick.

Ano ne... back to studying Japanese for me though.

30 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2009-01-28 15:53 ID:7YVYrHc/


All of us must pay our price so we are Odysseus who had
plundered the hallowed heights of Troy.

But Valjean's journey looks like apostles'.

31 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2009-01-28 16:11 ID:7YVYrHc/


I want to read The Martian Chronicles.

32 Name: Kyoumo Unko!bKaGbR8Ka. : 2009-02-10 14:47 ID:UP+OZh2D

>>30 was posted at the day I learned the word apostle.

Is also Valjean Odysseus!
I feel many inspirations came from Homer into Hugo.

33 Name: Bookworm : 2009-07-13 18:23 ID:vliI3Fvm

Cosette and the stranger

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