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"*Roman Catholic Church Teachings Contradict the Bible
How can I make this statement? I was a Catholic for most of my life. However, after studying the Bible I have found much evidence in scripture that go against the teachings and doctrine of the Catholic Church. Check the evidence for yourself.*"
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Sure, swap one selective reading of the book for another. No christian is dumb enough to actually follow the bible to the letter, no matter what they might claim or think, so petty squabbling over how one faction doesn't do it is kind of pointless.
Søren Kierkegaard frowns upon this faggotry.
This guy wins teh internet. I recently wrote an essay about how recent Catholicism is so practical and fixed. What's really important is the core, not the shell. Going to church every sunday, baptism, communion, confirmation etc are so practical so that no one even realizes why they are doing such practices, or what they are for - sort of desensitized. Most of christians go to church and follow practices because they know that they will be condemned and won't be able to enter heaven. See, this kind of attitude towards Catholicism is not "right," and won't get you anywhere, if you know what I mean.
> See, this kind of attitude towards Catholicism is not "right," and won't get you anywhere, if you know what I mean.
I disagree. Catholicism is what isn't right. It's the system, not the approach to the system.
Catholicism is the set of beliefs. The system is the Roman Catholic church.
A set of beliefs is a system.
Moreover, in this case, the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) is a neccessary element of the set of beliefs of any Roman Catholic. The RCC also has the systematical power (through the pope and his thousands and thousands of priests) to change the set of beliefs that make up Roman Catholicism.
>>8
Only when you act on those beliefs in a consistent way.
>>9
The church is a system that acts inconsistently with the underlying beliefs of Catholicism to bolster the importance of the church and its officials. The underlying beliefs were written thousands of years ago and are quite unchangeable. The church manipulates its followers through dishonest interpretations of those beliefs; the interpreted word of God is whatever's convenient for the church.
The beliefs are fine, but the system is messed up and the approach to the system is also messed up.
> Only when you act on those beliefs in a consistent way.
Well, everyone who doesn't gets sent to hell or excommunicated lol
> The underlying beliefs were written thousands of years ago and are quite unchangeable.
Every pope has ordered rewritings of the bible until recently ago. I doubt anyone here is qualified to talk about the contents of "honest interpretations" of the G'd's word.
As much as I hate to say it, >>9 hits uncomfortably close to home.
On the other hand, I fail to see what is so wrong with the Church. So they don't follow the Bible to the letter... but we all know just how strange the Bible is if held to be absolute.
It's not about following or not following the bible to the letter - it's about maintaining a political hierarchy under the disguise of religious beliefs that forces some people into a very concrete misery - e.g. AIDS or more children than would be economically reasonable (for lack of contraceptives) or guilt tripping perfect fine people for their sexuality and excluding them from their hierarchy, etc.
I'd like to see someone write a book and claim it's the word of God nowadays... they'd just be laughed at.
>>14
I had a nice coherent reply to this (but closed my browser window, argh), so suffice to say that if people actually lived according to the rules of the Church, or most other world religions, AIDS wouldn't be an issue today. In fact, coupled with current medical knowledge we could eliminate most STDs.
I doubt I need enlighten the collective mind of *chan of the possibilities available when all STDs are gone.
I do agree with too many children though. It's also a pain for couples to have little control over their lives; children are a large undertaking.
Actually, I am in the middle of doing just that.
> if people actually lived according to the rules of the Church, or most other world religions, AIDS wouldn't be an issue today. In fact, coupled with current medical knowledge we could eliminate most STDs.
Well, that's if you expect people to live perfectly according to the rules. But in reality, people would rather fuck without a condom and thus abide by the no-condoms rule than not fuck at all outside of marriage.
>>17
I'd blame that more on stupidity than anything else.
>>18
Well, that judgement can be applied to most religions and their followers.
>>17
"If most people lived according to the rules of the church... AIDS wouldn't be an issue."
Although the doctrine against polygamy, adultery, and prostitution would indeed curtail AIDS, I have never read anything in the Bible about IV drug use or eating monkey brains, although I'm sure the Church condemns it by default. One thing that would definitely hurt anti-STD programs is the Church's condemnation of birth control, to te point of denying the success of condoms in preventing transmission. The Pope said that virus particles can seep through the condom; imho, the Pope wouldn't know a condom from a balloon.