This is from a straight male judge sentencing a guy who was found with a bunch of porn involving kids under the age of ten:
"These kinds of offenses are problems with impulse control," said Carson City District Judge Bill Maddox prior to sentencing. "When I say that, it's my understanding that most men are sexually attracted to young women. When I say young women I don't just mean women that ... you should be attracted to. I mean women from the time they're 1 all the way up until they're 100."
Maddox noted the legal terms malum in se, a Latin phrase meaning an act that is "inherently evil," and malum prohibitum, which means acts that are not necessarily inherently immoral or hurtful, only wrong by statute.
He said child pornography could be considered malum prohibitum because in some countries and cultures it is acceptable to engage in sexual conduct with young girls.
"As an example, having sex with a girl between 12 and 16 is prohibited because we say it's prohibited. It's because we decided as a civilized society you do not want adults engaging in sexual conduct with children below 16 years of age, which flies in the face of our, I guess for lack of a better description, our normal impulses," he said.
"I guess we could just ignore them, say it's just like a traffic ticket, it's malum prohibitum, it's only against the law because it's prohibited. Or we could say that because we're trying to control what's an otherwise natural impulse there has to be consequences.
"The bottom line on it all is the way we're going to control it in my opinion is to ensure that everybody understands what the consequences are if you engage in ... a lack of impulse control. It's likely that most people would find young girls sexually attractive. But we're civilized to the point that we're taught to control our impulses. When you don't, there has to be consequences."
Remember, he's not even talking about a guy who finds a 17-year-old pop star on TV hot, he's talking about a guy who possessed porn involving kids under the age of ten.
Imagine if this guy had pics of little boys and the judge were gay and made the above speech. Seriously, the news media would go haywire, the Focus on the Family sorts would be calling for Lawrence to be overturned, and it would be permanently embedded in all those anti-gay pamphlets forever. But is anyone asking all heterosexuals to defend this guy? Not at all. We realize that there are just some people, straight or gay or queer or bi or asexual, who are just kinda weird or nutty or say inappropriate things.
Just pointing out how the anti-gays can go in front of Congress or the Supreme Court and call all queer people child molesters, and a straight guy puts out a NAMBLA-esque spiel in court and the most anyone says about it is "This guy's kinda creepy."
Followed from the link
http://www.bilerico.com/2007/04/most_men_are_se.php
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I, for one, share his views. It's male impulse to want younger women.
Another way to look at this is, when you were 15, you liked 15 year old girls. So why is it any more wrong if you simply happen to grow up and keep your preferences? Is the law really there to force us to change our preferences? Bizarre.
When you were 5, you liked 5 year old girls..
That law was made to protect those who are deemed unable to defend themselves, or don't have the maturity to comprehend sexual relationships. If you had a younger sister or daughter, you wouldn't want them to be deprived of their innocence and taken advantaged of by someone much older.
>>4
Rather different case, as 15-year-old girls are well into puberty. But under 10? That really is a totally different story.
I personally started liking girls when I (and they) were 11.
>>5 if i had a younger sister or daughter i wouldnt care if they were deprived of their innocence.. as long as i would be the one to do it.
lololol
Actually, when I was 5, I thought 5 year old girls were icky and had cooties.
>>8 whoever said i was an only child? i said i didnt have a sister.
> why would i want to touch a hairy 18 yr old..
See >>17.
I know its true that most men like us girls as young as possible.
If an old man was dating a 20 year old he'd trade her for a hot 15 year old any day.
at least 30% of men are secretly attracted to under 11. and 99.999% would screw girls between 11-17.
I remember some old guy said 'she was 9 but I swear she looked 14!' why would 14 make it any better??
i hate pedos and society lol burn
I like young girls and I cannot lie.
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with a 15-year old waist
And those small things in your face
You get sprung...
you seem to be deluded into thinking that all men are raving sex machines only looking for sex from younger and younger women. this is not the case, and is in fact an unfair generalization.
also, what do you feel is an "old man"? I get the feeling you think all men are "out to hump you" which is fairly narcisistic, actually.
Finally, though, i would have agree the pedos should burn. MAN it must suck to have your sexual drive get all wired up the wrong way, though. after that, you're just F*CKED...
(ps: lol, i'll have to remember that 'she was 9 but I swear she looked 14!' line...)
to >>21
I am >>19
lol what I'm saying IS true though lol :)
and there so much pedophile stuff on this site alone!
Are you into older women??
I'm saying these things is because theres been so many older men hitting on my friends and I, even though we are early teens ~lol. and also some other things happened to me too when i was under 10.... :(
girls are most beautiful when we are young unfortunately
Its really not older guys fault but they should still lol burn
>girls are most beautiful when we are young unfortunately
Subjective views are not fact.
well, personally, i'm just into girls my own age. that sucks about that stuff that happens to you now, and when you were younger. pedos really piss me off.
The natural age difference meant for straight couples is about 5 years younger for the woman. It's instinctively what an average man would go after, as we've evolved that way. That's the reason to why girls reach puberty a couple of years before boys. Guys seek young, fertile girls; girls seek more mature, dominating men.
So then, 4-ch, what do you think of teleiophilia, or the attraction of younger people to older adults?
This reminds me a bit of when that Harvard guy was fired for suggesting that there are more smart men out there than women. It's true, but nobody wants to admit it so controversy flies.
>>28
ok, so where's your evidence? what is the count for the number of smart men and smart women?
There are more really smart men, but also more men who are dumb as bricks. In general, there's more variation in men than women. It's a blessing and a curse. This article (which I think was posted here a while back) explains it well:
>as 15-year-old girls are well into puberty
Not always. Some don't get into puberty until 16 and some even later. The ones that get into puberty far past 16 tend to be the anorectic girls.
The trend for girls popping into puberty earlier and earlier is usually attributed to our different lifestyle today.
everyone on this thread needs a reality check - you're all pedos or pedos in training.
why is there a law forbidding sexual contact or what have you until 18 (here anyway)? Because that's what lawmakers and we as a people decided. I don't know how many times I've seen some 16 yr old chick thinks she "loves" some 20 something guy, only to realize much later he's some sick bastard.
People who go for that sort of thing since they believe the law is stupid or false, considering less strict laws in other countries, are not rebels or cool - they're idiots. no matter how you justify or explain, it makes no difference. breaking a "stupid law" and a regular law will be prosecuted the same way.
16 is plenty legal here anyway. 18 for prostitution, though, so you can't bribe a 16 year old girl with money.
I'm a girl and I don't like older 'mature, dominating' men. I'd prefer it if a boy were the same age as me and equal to me. I
would not date a guy 5 years older than me coz the older guys seem too controlling and intimidating and I have nothing in common with them, they are at a different stage in life.
Older guys are creepy!!1
Oh yeah, the girls I know that love old men are dirty sluts
and also really dumb and naive. Also they are sluttish Nazis.
Stupid pervert sluts with psychological issues and daddy fuckers.
>>I'm a girl
Lies! There are no girls on the Intertubes!
>>35
Sluts are okay. Young pussy is young pussy, when it all comes down to it.
Though I find random schoolgirls much hotter, something about unattainability I guess.
>>33
I don't know how many times I've seen some any age chick thinks she "loves" some guy of any age, only to realize much later he's some sick bastard. Sick bastardry is age-independent.
Granted, at least sick bastards have legal motivation to use a condom, to avoid leaving DNA evidence.
>>39
not to mention to avoid leaving DNA evidence or polluting our gene pool, and sending more taxpayer money to another 18-year-old welfare mom.
Sick f***s. Keep it at 18..geez...what wrong, can't find an 18 year old to do it for you. Your all too much of a fata** probably.
I like young twinks like Zac Efron n Joe Jonas!!
I like 18-22 only!!! or maybe 17 and 23 as well.
20 yr old is best though..not really a teen not yet a grown adult..
The arguments hold water if the guy was arrested for a hard drive full of jb. It doesn't when the guy was indicted for possessing porno of kids under 10.
Besides, the reason why it's called "age of consent" isn't because that's the minimum age where sex is "possible" with a minor; that's the minimum age that the law believes a child can make their own damn decisions about who to sleep with.
Also, WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT, YOUR HONOR. SHUT UP BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING STUPID-- OH WAIT TOO LATE.
oh no
wait, wait.
most WHAT are sexualy attracted to WHAT now???
Most DQN are attracted to VIP-quality threads
I think if you chnaged it to "younger girls" it would be true
I JUST REWORKED MY BIG BANG THEORY TO INCLUDE THE FACT THAT IT IS OKAY FOR LITTLE GIRLS TO BE BANGED BY BIGGER PEOPLE THAN THEM!!! IT IS FOOL PROOF!!!! NOW IT IS SCIENTIFICALLY ACCEPTABLE TO HARVEST A ROMANTIC INTEREST IN YOUNGER CHILDREN!!!