What's the ID? (29)

1 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-12 01:38 ID:i0TI8Se6

Apparently, all posts got a unique ID:

9 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-10 13:04 ID:8II3dH7M

for an example. I was kinda wondering, what does it mean?

2 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-12 01:57 ID:GhM9p0hZ

I can't tell you or el∴∵∴∵∴∵∴∵∴∵∴∵ark of t∴e Beast∴∵∴∵no one∴∵∴∵run aw∴∵∴∵∴∵∴∵∴∵∴∵MODD = FA∴∵∴∵∴∵∴∵∴∵∴∵∴∵eeks is going to kil∴∵∴I∵drin∴∵∴water, so∴∵hould you.

3 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-12 02:04 ID:i0TI8Se6

>2 what?

4 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-12 02:09 ID:WuPd+fpA

Don't think.

5 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-12 02:26 ID:i0TI8Se6

waiiiit... what's the point of trip codes then?

6 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-12 02:31 ID:Heaven

now i'm getting confused...

7 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-12 04:58 ID:zPhOD3/z

>>5 trip codes here stay the same cos u make ur own pass n shit for them. however the id such as the ones that >>1 stated seem to change every few days. i dunno why tho. never really looked into it.

8 Name: tripcode!3GqYIJ3Obs : 2008-01-12 06:48 ID:a7vFh6kH

Enter "tripcode#tripcode" is the name field. You should get the same exact name and code as this post, but with a different ID. Try it.

9 Name: tripcode!3GqYIJ3Obs : 2008-01-12 06:59 ID:i0TI8Se6

testin'

10 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-12 09:04 ID:Heaven

Trip codes are persistent. IDs remain the same only for the individual thread, and they also change after a period of time. They exist so people can't do stupid things like argue with themselves.
Sage hides your ID (making it Heaven).

11 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-12 13:16 ID:OpU/NGLf

The ID that a poster uses depends on the thread they are posting under and the IP address that they use at that point in time. If the poster's IP address changes over time, their ID will also change over time.

12 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-12 13:37 ID:w5pGMQlV

What I've always wanted to know is, does the site have the full IP address for each post stored somewhere in the database, or does it only store the ID and the IP block which the address came from?

13 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-12 15:58 ID:tX+VpsiH

>>12

I am pretty sure the full IP address is stored.

14 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-12 16:07 ID:GhM9p0hZ

"fusianasan" in the name field

15 Name: p5B22E671.dip.t-dialin.net : 2008-01-12 17:06 ID:tX+VpsiH

test

16 Name: p5B22E671.dip.t-dialin.net : 2008-01-12 17:06 ID:tX+VpsiH

kewl

17 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-12 17:08 ID:i0TI8Se6

>>14
And the IP will be shown... no idea what that thing would be good for...

18 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-12 17:30 ID:hgNLh86H

On the original 2channel, I've heard that the IP address is only logged in plaintext for the first post in a thread.

The ID is obviously some kind of hash of a thread ID and an IP address. And that means the admin ostensibly can't just extract the IP address from the ID. But, given a specific thread and a selection of possible IP addresses, could he tell whether that post came from that IP address?

Also, why does sage hide the ID?

19 Name: Squeeks!2Ry2R7PgQk : 2008-01-12 18:35 ID:GepsGiZi

>>17
Fusianasan was used more as identity proof, I guess. It's probably more dangerous than useful, but it's a feature no less.

>>18
Myself and the moderators can see all the IP addresses of users who post, but we don't use the ID, so to speak since the scripts write your IP address in an encrypted format somewhere else. Threads that are moved or put into the archives no longer retain this information since it's kept separate of the actually thread. ID's are more useful for the public since working out sock-puppets is much more obvious. This is a good example showing how people faking it can be caught out, but there are exceptions (transparent/open proxies, etc).

Not just sage hides the ID, anything put into the Link/Email field will cause it to ID:Heaven.

4-ch guide is also here, but I do really need people to get more stuff in explaining things like this.

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21 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-14 12:37 ID:Heaven

>>18

> But, given a specific thread and a selection of possible IP addresses, could he tell whether that post came from that IP address?

Failing that, if you know the algorithm, the salt and the thread-ID, in the worst case you could brute-force the IP address. I mean there are only 2^32 possible values, that won't take very long to iterate. Think of it as cracking a four-character password.

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23 Name: Squeeks!2Ry2R7PgQk : 2008-01-14 21:14 ID:GepsGiZi

>>20,22 was a good reason why tripcodes exist, for as long as you keep them long, and not based off words. Go outside and do something, kid.

24 Name: bollocks : 2008-01-15 20:27 ID:Heaven

>>21 a four-character password if each character has 256 possible values. (8 bits per letter). Six-character password is more accurate.

>>19 didn't know that about Heaven, now it makes more sense. One thing I wish sage did, though, was to mark the post in some obvious way rather than adding a "mailto:sage" link that shows up when you mouse over. So if anyone actually provides an email address or URL, nobody notices because "sage" is so much more common, and at that point you might as well just change the whole Link field into a sage checkbox.

I bet there's already a long thread based on a suggestion like this on iichan, but I'm posting it here anyway.

25 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-15 22:13 ID:OpU/NGLf

>>24
Heaven belongs where sage exists. All other posts will have an ID.

26 Name: Not Squeeks : 2008-01-16 14:02 ID:ZEa1jdQ4

Why you delete post`?

27 Name: oldest meme ever : 2008-01-16 16:58 ID:Heaven

Same reason he throw chip.

28 Name: Anonymous : 2008-01-17 13:00 ID:Heaven

>>24
Not every sequence of four numbers from 0..255 is a valid IP address either, if you want to split hairs.

29 Name: wanglobe.hilton.com : 2008-02-02 10:11 ID:s2En6Up+

:x

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