Ok guys, I'm 26, I never dated/kissed/sexed and barely speaked with girls, until 23 I barely went out of the house.
Now I have a full time job, where I recently met a girl of my age. She seems interested, probably because at work I'm normally at ease so I may not leak the "natural born loser" aura too much. But I'm sure she will forget me when she realizes I'm a geek. Anyway for now I got her number (bad move because now I'm in so deep shit that I can't see the sky anymore.)
Because of our work shifts we will only be able to see each other for a couple hours, late in the evening, meeting at the workplace... unless I wait for the next week end, which I don't want to do because she would forget me for sure.
Problem n.1 is I don't know where to go with her. I never "go out", I don't have friends. I could only pick a place at random (and going to a random place with a girl at night doesn't seem good... ok this isn't NY but incidents happen).
So WTF DO I DO NOW????????
I'd like to stay with her without having to confront the additional - and worse - anxiety of going to a pub (or whatever).
I was wondering if not going anywhere in particular would be okay... but we can't stay in a car for 2 hours either, what the hell can I do????
>>1
You have her number. While it doesn't say much, at least it says that she doesn't hate you, so you're not on her bad side.
For going out with her, seriously try to find a nice and comfortable cafe, preferably with couches so you 2 can sit near each other, or at least sit comfortable. If cafe is not an option, parks are always a good way to spend some time, wandering around, sitting on a bench etc.
What I have to tell you, is, do NOT, under any circumstances, utter the cliched words "date", "bf/gf", "love" or something like that. You see, this whole thing is like a game of cards. You and her both have cards in your hands, and you have to slowly play them. She plays one card, you play one card, maybe she'll play a negative one and you can react accordingly. Don't lay out all the cards at once, you'll be shooting yourself in the foot with this
There is no problem with waiting a week to call her and ask her out. If you rush you will seem annoying or desperate. It's better to wait a little, so wait until the weekend when you both have time, and then you will have time to look around the area beforehand for a nice place.
Hm. Well. If you're worried about not being able to talk to her comfortably, maybe you should watch a movie. That way, afterwards at least you'll have a topic to talk about.
But lots of times, movies get kind of... Boring. Actually, now that I think about it, bowling would be fun too! Bowling you can be bad at 'cause not everyone plays all the time. And since you'll be taking turns, you won't need to talk much, except for encouraging her and stuff. Yeah... Actually, bowling soudns good.
This is the fifth day that I have anxiety, even my mother just told me that I'm not eating anything lately. The tought of having to seem normal is killing me. I can't confront the girl AND the place at the same time. And what is a cafe` anyway???? Couches???
Give her a call tonight or now and ask her if she wants to get coffee at a coffee shop (aka cafe`) or a nice quiet place where you just spend 30-45 minutes where you can sit down and just talk to her. Just make it anytime during the week, try to avoid the weekend and evening because she might be busy and it also gives her the impression that you are busy.
I'll call on monday... hoping to be less agitated than now... I wish I could find that quiet place...
Good luck on the date.
Keep cool. Nothing terrible will happen if you meet her. Don't be afraid or ashamed, only yourself. You may or may not get to know each other better. Just act normal, don't act like you are under pressure or afraid, that will only ruin anything that could come out of it.
A cafe is a bar or restaurant? or whatever word you use in your language. Find a decent one you like and go with her there.
>>5
Don't get too worked up. I also fell in love and lost 12 kg....that's not going to help you or anyone else, so relax
>>8
Mmmmh, it's kinda hard to go casual to a restaurant, that's why cafes are better during the day, and bars during the night.
>>7
It's not that hard, just find a cafe which seems comfortable enough to chill in. I mean no busy ones where there are constantly people rushing and out, like Starbucks or whatever. If you can't find one, just ask your work colleagues really casual, for example "Ah damn, where the hell are there some nice cafes in this town? Yo Steve, can you recommend a nice comfortable one to chill around in?"
Don't be worried. Treat the 'date' like a walk in the park. Hey a walk in the park is good. Again spend about 30-45 minutes with her, to get to know her better. Think of it as you are giving an interview to her to see is she is worthy for an actual date. The cafe'/coffee shop date is nothing but a scouting report. YOu are the driver of your life and you want see if it is okay for her to ride with you. Remember you are in control. By the way give at least a few days between the call and the meeting to show you are not desperate for her. OP where are you from or at least what city? We can help you out with finding a place.
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I made the first date with my gf kinda special...took her to a decently nice steak place, and then spent the rest of the night talking. She made the suggestion afterwards that we go to a school playground near her house, where we continued our conversation. I've found that conversation just comes naturally with some people, and as long as you remain confident she'll want to talk with you more. Your tone of voice conveys a lot about you, keep it cool. And don't be ashamed of being a geek, if she can't accept that part about you then she probably isn't worth your time. Do not hide that aspect about yourself, admit it in your conversations, or she'll think you're hiding things from her.
Sounds like you might have some confidence issues, as illustrated by your "she'll be sure to forget me by then" attitude. If she gave you her number, that is the first hurdle and she is obviously interested. And if you're really worried about where to go, why not ask her what she likes. With my gf, we trade off places in town. I take her to a restaurant she's not been to, she shows me a place I've not been to, its worked fairly well.
Anyways, best of luck, keep us updated.
>>1
..and barely speaked with girls
I can tell.
I think the best simple solution is taking her to a cafe. Not too shabby, not too sleek. Best situation for conversations.
you only meet her for several hours at work? easy! order in and eat with herin thi office! I mean this is your first time right? take it easy first.
or take her to a cafe
I called and she said she wasn't sure & would call back. (Yeah, sure...)
Later she sent a mail saying she had already an appointment with her friends. (Yeah, sure...)
I suppose it's the end already.
Can't blame her, I wouldn't go out with myself either if I knew only my superficial/public self.
You guys gave good tips, I know all the stuff about not seeming needy, being in control etc. , once I studied all that shit at fastseduction.com .. it's very good stuff indeed but (as they are the first to say) you must be SOMEONE to apply it in real situations. I just can't, I can barely speak to her, I say only the strict essential, probably in a way that is perceived as blunt. On the phone I couldn't think at all about what to say.
It was all a stupid dream. It's the first time in my life I called a girl to go out, and I'm 26. I knew there was nothing in this world for me, the more love you need the less anyone is likely to give you. Back to anime.
Whoa there, keep it cool. As alien as it sounds, some people ARE busy going out with their friends. Yes, I know, it CAN mean the dreaded "I don't wanna go out with you but I wanna be subtle about it", but you could also have catched her on a busy point. Try asking her while at work, this makes it a little less awkward(not that phones are awkward, but still) and you can then see if she is really as disinterested as you think.
dont give up!! maybe she really had a appointment! have confidence and beleive in your self! try and talk to her more at work so you two would get to know each other, one thing i know is its normal to get rejected when you ask a girl out so dont give up yet! lol talk about rejection... i got rejected 3 times when i asked girls out, anyway wish you best of luck!!
btw nothing to do with this thread but i got a question for 電気男, did you succesed?!! didn't hear from your story for a while and now i read that you have a gf!!? all i can say is CONGRATS!
don't lose hope just yet. it is possible she really did have something to do with her friends.
i also suggest talking to her at work. talk to her as much as possible, ask her about things she likes, what she does when shes off work, talk about the job even. the more you talk to her and become her friend, it will become easier to talk to her without freaking out.
another suggestion is to ask her if she'd like to get something to eat after work together or something, should the situation allow it. if its late, going so some fast-food place would suffice, it wouldn't be very crowded, and you'll have more time alone to talk to her and get more comfortable with her.
only one thing i can suggest is to take it slow. like >>2 said. and just think - even if for some reason it doesnt work out, you're gaining experience and there are TONS of other girls out there.
I'm totally depressed. At work we won't see each other anymore because of different work hours. I must forget her because thinking about my loneliness makes me want to commit suicide.
This was the only chance in 26 years to go out with a girl, I knew she would have dumped me anyway but I wanted the experience.
To make things worse I'm still desperate because I'm an otaku and a half hikokomori and convinced that no girl will go with one like me, I don't even know the city, if go by car I get lost in an instant, I never went on a vacancy in popular places of my country, I'm scared of entering a bar..... if at least I knew a story of someone who succeeded, but it's unheard of..
Well, Densha Otoko succeded, and he was an otaku :)
I also got my first girlfriend at the age of 21, since I used to be a huge nerd and anti-social before, I also was for a short time a hikikomori myself, until I read Gantz and realized how much I ruined my own life.
The point is that you have to dare to get into social activities, meet new people, try new things out - if you are too afraid of failure, humiliation, loss - too afraid to do anything - you WILL lose at life. But if you at least try, there is the chance that your life will improve.
Honestly, look at your life. Is sitting alone in your room and watching anime the only thing you want to get out of life? Don't you want to LIVE your life, instead of just watching others living out what you wish for?
Go out, dare something. It CAN ONLY BE BETTER than rotting alone in your room.
Besides, what do you have to lose if you do actually go out?
Even if you fail in a spectacular manner, they will eventually forget about it and give you a second chance.
Negative thinking gives off a bad vibe. If you keep on thinking that you are a piece of shit, girls will think that you're right and don't even bother. How they do that, I don't know.
Anyway, what you need to do is to be more positive. Always remember that there is always someone out there who is in a worse situation than you.
Don't give up, I too started trying to catch a girl recently.
Good luck, Warez Man.
P.S. It's a huge world out there. Will you either stay inside your own, or join the party?
Oh shit it's getting complicated, she sent a mail saying 'sorry I didn't go with you last evening'...
What is this supposed to mean????
I'm not replying nor calling for now... if she's really sorry then let her be for a while :>
Anyway I reassembled the piece of paper with her number from the trash can (man am I stupid..).
My advice is to wait at least a week before you call her, to let things die down.
>>24
You're a retarded guy for doing the "she hurt me, so I have to toss her number away" scenario, but I like you
It's that what it means: She's sorry she didn't have time to go out with you. Realize that you are not the center of her universe, and sometimes there are priorities to meet other people. Doesn't mean she generally dislikes you. Wait 1 or 2 days and go "Oh hey I was busy so couldn't respond. My offer for a meeting still stands. I though about going to [place] on [day], are you free then? Oh, you aren't? Well when will you be free? Oh, [other day], I gotta check if I'm free then, hang on.....yeah, [other day] sounds good" and take her out then
agreed with >>26's advice.
and indeed. dumping her number is the manly thing to do! giggle
>>24 you're so deseperate I'd kill you if I know you
do you in anyway look like or act like Milton from office space?
Damn you are desperate!
And by the way, you're reading too much into the msg she sent about feeling sorry for not showing. It's not "complicated" at all, she most likely just wasn't able to show for some reason, it's a simple apology. Just call her back or whatever and ask to reschedule for another date. If she keeps trying to avoid you repeatedly, that's when you should assume that she's trying to tell you something. And for god's sake, don't come off so desperate!!
He's my honest assessment of you Warez...
You obviously lack confidence and self-esteem. I'm also pretty confident that you have difficulties in handling criticism from others. You have loads of anxiety, particularly in social situations where you think others are thinking critical of you.
This isn't going to be easy for you, there is no magic button to be pushed in this scenario. However, I can tell you that the negative opinions of yourself, lack of self-confidence, and fear of social situations are pretty much all imagined. You have essentially the same tools that we're all given at birth. Difference between you and the ones with healhy interpersonal relationships is your lack of self-confidence. The questions you're asking help with, like choosing a place for a casual date are actually quite simple. Unfortunately you're overthinking these simple problems and doubting yourself because of your lack of confidence. You come off as desperate because you think so low of yourself that you'll desperately claw at any ray of light when you really don't have to. That desperation and apprehension is easy to recognize for most people and it makes them not want to hang around you. You could be the coolest looking person in the world but if you come off as super desperate then people begin to think that they can do better than hang with you
So, first things first, you need to put together some confidence in yourself. Remember that you have the same pallette as everyone else to work with. Dress up nice, make yourself presentable and believe in who you are. If you think you're a loser then you'll come off as a loser, think like you're a pretty awesome person and others will begin to see that in you. Try to shed yourself of really odd behaviors if you have any but be proud of who you are, even if it means you're a geek! People aren't put off by the geek interests so much as the typical geek behavior of being losers. If you believe in yourself then your interests won't matter all that much, your fear will lessen and you'll be able to handle relationship issues more easily.
I also think that part of your problem is you think that you need a gf in order to be happy. I think you should work on making good friends first. Any change in your persona is going to take awhile, if you rush into a relationship out of desperation and assume it will make you happier then you're going to be in for a rude awakening. That relationship will obviously fail and leave you in an even worse state. More important for you is to build up a supportive social network of friends, once you've done that you will notice more confidence and less anxiety. The comfort of having a supportive group of people with whom you're friends with will allow you to be more comfortable around others. Then you can really think about getting into a real relationship.
good luck to you
>>19
Thanks. You may be referrring to that first date I went on back in March...but I stopped talking to that girl because she gave me the whole "we're dating, you're a great guy, but no relationship" line, plus school got me too damn busy.
If you want a synopsis of how I got into my current relationship, see here: http://4-ch.net/love/kareha.pl/1151737165/l50
Still haven't kissed her though, I know she isn't ready yet but we'll get there.
This afternoon I ringed her.. she ringed back.. and that's all for today. (I suppose this doesn't mean anything in particular, too..)
[to ring == to make the phone sound one time ..... not sure how they say it in real english]
We don't meet directly because we are on different work shifts, she starts at midnight, so since there's a popular pub/restaurant near our workplace, I'm planning to ask her there.. maybe at 22?
(I was told to do so by a colleague, who did the same thing with another girl...)
We need the simplest possible logistics to eradicate unnecessary anxiety: the meeting will be just outside the pub, I'll go by bicycle but she won't see me coming (parking car==anxiety).
Request comments on the above plan -_____-
And by the way, how do I elevate my public-self-esteem? I mean, staying in front of a computer all day is very uncool... how can I think I'm cool if facts make evident that I'm the opposite?_?
I forgot to put the name on the above post, it was me anyway... thank you.
That sounds like and acceptable thing to do.
Although "ringing" her phone is not a very good idea IMHO. It makes it look like you did the old "I'll just dial the number" then you chicken out at the last second after dialing it so you hang up routine.
When you're talking to her just ask about her work, talk about yours, Talk about weird/interesting people at your jobs, Find out what she is into such as hobbies, music ect.
But most of all Call her and let her pick up the phone. don't even think about it just do it and ask her if she would like to get a drink/eat at this place and name the time and date and if she says "I can't I have plans" then ask when she is free. She might legitimately have plans with friends. If she gives yo the brush off after that then move on.
Why do you only make the phone sound ring once...?
Uh... As for elevating public-self-esteem... Um. Why don't you just like practice with your friends or go out and try talking to random people.
>>31
What will really give you a bit more public self-esteem is this: go to a park, walk around and just say "hi!" to every person(bonus points if it's a cute girl) you see. Do not quit doing this until you got 100 hi's back at you. It's a great way to start building that "I don't care" attitude which everyone to some degree has
Ok, this evening I ringed then sent her the following msg (rough translation): "I hope to disturb you. Yesterday I ringed.. now I message you.... but I decline responsability for what happens next time:)"
She replied: "You don't disturb... I'm at work... you abandoned me..." (<-- referring to when we were in the same work shift)
In my last reply I made fun of her for that ('poor one... blabla').
>>35
In the "hi" exercise I'm easily discouraged by those who ignore and don't respond, it puts me in a bad mood, I start thinking no one cares about me etc.. -_-'
>In the "hi" exercise I'm easily discouraged by those who ignore and don't respond, it puts me in a bad mood, I start thinking no one cares about me etc.. -_-'
You shouldn't be. When you think about it, you don't know these people at all so the normal response for alot of them is going to be to not reply at all.
I have also just turned 26 recently, I understand your disposition. Not knowing friends and not aware of where to go since you don't go out. I can sympathize with your hardships because if I ever go out with a girl, I wouldn't know where to go and because I don't have friends, I wouldn't know who to consult for answers. And being in your room most of the time, there just isn't anything that one could come up to telling her what sort of interest one do in a conversation if she were to ask you what you do without falling down into the spiral for not having a social life outside of your room and begin making something up to hide your hikki tendencies.
If you don't have any friends like me, how are you going to tell her about your social life?
I think anyone who has a social life of some sort or otherwise can tell that that there are problems with you by how much you know about social knowledge when you converse with her, since you aren't adapted to going out and having knowledge of places like cafes, I'm also in that disposition, that may give her the knowledge that you aren't experienced socially. I for one fear this that they may find out about me being a social outcast and a shut in, and eventually they being freaked out by this.
If you have nothing to say but your otaku interest, how would you try to hide the fact and making her believe you are normal like what the norm expects us to be?
I'm not discouraging you, quite the opposite, I just want to see how things turn out, and hope she likes you back.
I'm posing a few questions not only for you ponder about, but for the rest of use who can relate to it, about not having social knowledge and social of friends to help you, how can you survive? I have survive thus far only relying on myself to get what I want, I only have my parents if I want help but no one else in this world other than institutions who helps those in the need.
I can easily drive to anywhere but I don't know where to go, if I did, I would then wonder around aimlessly like last time in the arcade area. And people just look at you curiously, and depending on where you go, if you go to those places where there lot of people getting drunk and being annoying, they start to approach you and give you an attitude, which pisses you off, and because they are in a group and you are alone, it makes you alienating to them and you being loser, not only that it seems threatening to me, and give me a feeling of getting basebat and beat them up. Like they are making fun of you and making you seem powerless, it makes me angry. And since we are man, we tend to think of ourselves as the owners of territory, it gives the feeling they are taking over you and feeling of being belittled by their attitude towards you and add the heat that girls are with them, and this feeling make me want to fight back and claim respect. I think of this situation and it kind of proves that we have instincts not unlike animals. I think this is some kind of territory the group of little culture is protecting, especially protecting their females mates and attracting them through which this kind of behavior is shown. I'm diverting, but nonetheless, I just see what you and others have to say about this. Again sorry for being somewhat off topic, and using this thread to raise a few points not completely unrelating to the thread.
I was thinking of going to church, long story but I won't bore you....... I may start a new thread about this in future depending on how I feel, undecided though. If I ever feel the need to escape my hikki life patterns, maybe it will surface later on in a new thread. But doing so further in this thread would be offensive. Sigh......
>>I mean, staying in front of a computer all day is very >>uncool... how can I think I'm cool if facts make evident >>that I'm the opposite?_?
Whats cool is being yourself, if you find your lifestyle to be somehow inferior or spiteworthy, present yourself as an oppertunity for development rather than a failiure. If you're such a loser but still go out of your way to catch this girl, it should be so much more about that to appriciate, rather than if some slick don juan swept her away with ease. Don't even think about being a hipocrite, motherfucker.
Why do you have to be "cool" anyway? Do you know what she percieves as cool, do you know how she is, how she lives, what she likes and dislikes? If she is somehow interested in you, do you know why? You say you're more relaxed and casual at work, but perhaps your nerdyness still shines through, and thats why you caught her fancy, ey?
Seems to me like youre just desperate to nail someone and don't give too much of a fuck about the person in question. Perhaps the same holds true for her too, but it still sucks imho. Be more of a man and less of a dick, and automatically you will be both more interesting and less awkward about interacting with women, WITHOUT screwing them over with some false facade.
I have no expectations of long term relation, I just want to be able to say that I went out with a girl once. It's a small step for humanity but a huge one for me :)
When this is over I'll bounce in a deep depression.. again, but when I rise I'll be better off than now.
She will probably be scared to death when she discovers that I never go out etc. , she will lose all interest, she will say I'm sick and must be cured.... the usual stuff.
I don't care.
If you go in with such a shitty attitude, you doom yourself to fail.
Just don't expect anything to happen - nothing good, nothing bad. Be yourself, play it cool, and see how it develops. You can only gain experience from this, which is better than sitting alone at home and doing nothing productive for your life.
Well you are sick and must be cured, and you should embrace that. If you want one thing, you need to sacrifice something else. It won't hurt you to get out every once in a while. Why sit around watching others live an imaginary life, and pretend to do important and meaningful stuff, you play games and watch movies mostly for a hobby don't you? At least you should have learned some things from all that. Stop being a coward and making excuses for yourself, you'll just end up sitting there wanting stuff you can never get, living a cheifly unsatisfying life.
But hey it's your call in the end.
I tried to call her today but I couldn't find the courage. You are right, what a useless coward I am. I sent another stupid message for now. But I'll get that date some way or another. I don't give a damn about the outcome because DOING the date itself will be THE victory.
I'll worry about actually keeping the girl.. next time -_-'
Anyway, I'll call her tomorrow, I'll cut myself and torture my balls if I have to.. but I'll call !!!!!1
yup thats it, keep thinking positive!
You think too much, cut that shit out. Look at yourself, do you sound like you're trying to help? You're slaying your own ass off, you wouldn't want to meet you, you're an asshole to yourself, beating yourself down all the time, getting worked up over the tiniest issues, would you bear down on someone else like this? No matter if you actually do suck or not, you have to disregard that when you get down to business. Stop thinking so much about yourself, noone sane gives a rats ass about your worries.
I've sat through plenty of struggling moments with people trying to reach out without confidence, I honestly couldn't even begin to think badly of them, only admire them for facing their fears and taking a chance. So you're worried about fucking up and looking like an idiot? The only idiot would be the one to percieve you as such for trying your best. So just stop worrying so much.
I you somehow fumble and this girl looks at you with that "what a fucking loser"-look, you can just smile at her, realizing she's so afraid of embarassment herself that she feels ashamed for everyone else messing up, and thats the only reason. If it's no big deal you just joke it away, but people who get upset are so pained by other peoples mistakes due to their own dreads they can't contain it. Are you going to let other peoples ridiculous phobias become your own? Because you know it's true, most people are more afraid of public humiliation than death. So just laugh at it because it's indeed laughable.
Warez, you need to develop a strong social network of friends before you start going out on dates. That will provide you with more and more social skills. Also, having a supportive social network will help to improve your self-esteem, without that self-esteem your problems will only become worse.
Also, you act as if you need to go out with someone in order to feel happy. This couldn't be further from the truth, you're just setting yourself up for more disappointment. What will lead to long term happiness though is having lots of good friends who have got your back and provide help.
Trust me when I say that being in a relationship will not make the world rosey, you're in love with the idea of love. Seems as if you're trying to get into a relationship just to have one, not because you really have formed a connection with that person. Go forward now and it won't last, you'll simply become more discouraged.
You've got to learn to walk before you can run! Otherwise, you'll just be asking for pain.
I agree to this having friends to aid you and all, but the fact remain is that, well lets start with me, I don't have friends, neither does he as he said so himself. I'm willing to go out, but the thing is I can only go out by myself since I don't have anyone to go out with. Unless I know someone and he/she is willing to introduce his/her friends to me, in that case I can make friends easily. What makes it hard by befriending people is that they blush you off or ignore you simply because they don't know you. Plus many factors that they choose to not befriend you, if they do mostly they just look at you as an aquaintance, people that just say "hi", and other greetings and thats it.
I'm aware of advice that tell you look for people who are into the same interests as I am, but I can't seem to find them. I'm an otaku obviously, and I can't simply change myself to like things I'm not into.
I'm in Australia and live in Melbourne, I have two choices, either join an anime club in one of the Universities in my area, or join a church.
As for anime club, I mostly worked on Saturday and sometimes Sunday, I just finished worked today, Saturday, but I don't know when the club runs, if on the weekdays , I have to work and I don't know when the anime club meeting starts, and sometimes I have some shift to do at the evening and finish late at night, and driving between my home and the clubs may take time after I finish work and rush to my home and clean and eat before I go. If I go to church, most of the time I work on Sunday mornings, I'm guaranteed only available on Sunday evenings and night, and sometimes weekday evenings, and maybe saturday evening. I worked between 40 - 70 hours per week depending if I get called on nights, if I don't its between 40 - 60.
>>47 it seems like you have a good social life, what do you do in your life?
>>47
No, I don't need a girl to be happy. Certainly I don't need a social network, apart from the Internet. Normal people bore me as I bore them.
And I must have lost the part when Densha throws away his hobbies to transform into an extravert social animal...
I just wanted to try. Maybe I'm too much a fucking loner and should be alone forever after all. We'll know soon enough.
Oh, and this CANNOT possibly become a relationship simply because as I already stated she is going back to her place (1000 km away) in a week.
>>49
You don't need to throw away your hobbies or become a party animal in order to make more friends. Make yourself look presentable if you aren't already and find a place where people who have similar interests hang out. And stop beating up on yourself! I know it's kinda hard to accept but you have the same basic setup we've all got. If you keep telling yourself that you suck then others will start to think that you really do.
>>48
I'm sure that this club will post meeting times of some sort if you're not sure when they start. You might have to find a way to shift your hours around but it could very well be worth it. Melbourne's quite a large place, I'm sure there's a large anime club of some sorts around that area.
>it seems like you have a good social life, what do you do in your life?
I'm actually the president of a university anime club but just being in one generally affords you the chance to meet plenty of people. Also, going into my third year of study at said school.
I managed to call.
She refused again.
Looks like she wasn't really interested after all.
Is this Megatokyo?
well done for calling! thats a good start! now you can learn from that experience, and move onto meeting more people, and applying what you have learned from this event.
keep going!
mmh yeah.. girl #1 is gone, but in fact I have one more phone number left... I don't even know this girl #2, a colleague talked to her and gave me her number, he said that she wants only sex and no relationship...
(What sex I wonder as I am a virgin and total n00b... but the hydraulics down there are functional at least....)
It's probably another dead end but I think I'll call her too.
The truth behind truths is that I don't want to end this thread yet :D
Perhaps you should try to develop your social skills some more before you try dating. We all have a lot to learn about such things, but it would help your cause a lot if you were confident in your own ability to socialize. Its not terribly difficult to make friends, it really depends on the social group you hang with. Never went to college? Give it a try, or if you did, do some grad school and escape the evils of the corporate world for a while. Religious? Join a, for example, non-denominational church group, they tend to be the most welcoming people you'll ever meet. Total geek? Seek out fellow geeks in club activities in town. These are just examples on how to best socialize, but with practice you'll get better and better. Good luck.
BTW, be careful with fuckbuddies like what your colleague hooked you up with, STD city, and she could be a real dog too if you've not met her.
>>52
so okay, i like..... uhm. i really like japanese, you know, japanese anime and um, bishoujo games. that means beautiful girl. they're games where you..... you make friends with beautiful girls.
anyway i have this friend and we decided to go to japan because i uh, i speak japanese, and i wanted to get this kanon pencilboard you can't get ANYWHERE ELSE.
what happened was we had to stay there in japan, and i uh got this job at gamers heh heh just like digi charat heh heh but anyway there's these girrrrls there and um. i'm not sure what to do.
there is this one who is oh my god oh my god she's REALLY IN the bishoujo games oh god oh god and i am uh i guess a pretty big fan now. i just uh sometimes she says nice things to me and uh. i. i'm so scared.
she hates me she hates me she hates me. no matter what i do she hates me
so uh can anybody help?
lol
then, watch 'densha otoko' and follow the otaku's way
>>56
I lolled.