Yeah,
I am a bit pathetic and usually just try mucking around.
I met a girl just today and we got into talking and exchanged yahoo addresses.
Thing is, I am not good with talking and I want to form a relationship with her.
A big problem for me is that whenever I try to form a relationshp and get with a woman they end up seeing me as just a friend. I wanna know how I can get to know her but avoid becoming ust a friend.

I'm 21 and have had a few relationships. none of them really worked out for one reason or another and I would like to see this one work. Any kind of help would be much appreciated.

1. Cut the self-deprication crap. Trust me, people get annoyed by it. If you don't think well of yourself, you won't succeed.
2. For the time being, slowly become more and more friendly with her. Once the two of you are comfortable being around each other, then make your move.

Hope this helps.

dont put in too much attention, or shell take you as a friend.

>>2

Do what he says.

And keep moving things forward (inviting her to go out with you in more intimate contexts). Things depend on you. If you just wait, nothing will happen, and you will end up being just a friend ,...

Don't be a push over either. If she asks you to do stuff for her don't just hop to it. This is a test that women do to see if you actually have balls to stand up to them. They like it if you say no to stupid requests, or if you say that you'll do something but there better be something in return (said in a funny way)

And the other major point would be seconding the escalation of physical contact. Generally you need to be making the first move in a confident way, holding hands, stroking her arm/leg etc etc. Don't just rush in though, sometimes it's good to give a bit and then take it away (2 steps forward 1 step back) will show her that you like her but still keep an air of mystery.

This thread is made of good advice so far, I am suprised!

Thanks For the advice you guys.
We talk more on messenger because it is a bit of an incovenience to drive and see each other regularly, with my job which usually runs 12 plus hours, It is alot easier to talk there.

And as for the self deprecitive crap, I will work not to use such a bad way of describing myself. It's hard to break habits but I will break it simple as that.

>>6

I know you will. After all, the reason I said it in the first place is because I went through the same thing. People used to tell me that I was annoying them, and that I should think highly of myself.

A little update though.
Today I spent most of the afternoon just talking to her via instant messaging.

Due to the slight distance issue (an hour by maryland traffic) It is easier this way to talk and I so far we have been hitting it off quite well. She seems to like a fair number of things I do and its really easy to talk to her.

A major plus is she likes anime Just like I do and has told me on the weekend sometime I should come and watch it with her.
Shes basically told me outright she likes taking things slow as well which to me is a good thing because I really dont want to rush into things.

I'm being incredibly careful on how I say things though. Which is a bit of a turn around from me usually speaking my mind. I've started leaving things open for her to put in and answer questions in a way that she picks up on something and we discuss it.

I feel like I am really making progress ^_^

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Lol. lets not read too much into it.
I just am not too keen to puting these things onto blogs and feel that active real time feed back is better.

It's all good, bro. But you have to admit, your story sounds so Densha it's not funny. Good luck!

>>10,12
Stop posting this, you are the 2234th person to say this on this board

Seriously, I would rather not have comparisons made between me and someone elses story a half world apart.

All I really want is just some advise.

If nothing else, events like this should be more or less common since there are 6 billion people out there and a high number of them have internet access in one way or another.

Al I can ask is that people read this thread and come up with some good ideas for me. I may soud rude, but I would rather not have something overly glamourized when it might not even work out. Heck, I get enough useless attention when I go home on leave from the army.

I think I've said enough. Your connotations are appreciated but I dont think it is in this forums best intrests to be making such connections.

ah hem sorry I ment to not be making such connections.
The last thing I would want is to have the wrong peole coming on here and threatening to close down the thread when all I want is advice.

>>13

Sorry, I jus finished reading it, it's on my mind a lot. I apologize.

>>15

Dude, it's cool. I was just poking fun @ you. But good luck.

Awww this reminds me of my own relationship.

We started out just like you, using pidgin to talk to one another, then decided it was the time to meet, luckily only living 30 mins away from each other. We're now going out and couldn't be happier :)

Good luck!

Everything is a Densha Otoko ripoff. If you fall in love, you're ripping off of Densha. QUIT RIPPING OFF OF DENSHA!