What do you think of these?
Seems bad how it's mathematically impossible for everyone to have a good ratio, and you get punished for downloading obscure stuff nobody is going to want for a while. Still, these kinds of sites have a great selection so apparently it motivates people to upload good stuff.
These only bother me when asshats upload torrent metafiles from them to public listings, like mininova and the like. What good is having 200 seeders when the tracker requires registration?
Actually the obscure stuff being uploaded usually gets downloaded pretty fast; atleast within a day or two. Anytime I've uploaded something fairly obscure, it hasn't taken long for someone to get it.
Ratio really isn't all that had to keep up. You just have to leave torrents seeding, and that's not so bad.
As for getting punished for downloading obscure stuff, you'd be surprised. If you're seeding a torrent with a low amount of seeders (2~3), you're more likely to connect to seed to someone. Which, in turn, raises your ratio.
>>3
In the 3 or 4 days between my getting invited to one of these trackers and my disk with all the torrent content dying, I barely managed to upload anything at all. Maybe I would have found that you were right eventually, though. The torrents I downloaded were both obscure and old.
what is this obscure stuff you keep talking about, now i'm interested.
Somatic Responses, Merzbow, and Snog albums.
>>6
are... are you from sows?
sows has that 0.5 point (or how much is it) per hour of seeding at least, so you can just seed any crap you want no matter who downloads and stil boost your ratio
hmm, any other private tracker users on 4-ch? I got over my initial skepticism of the whole concept, but it still seems like a bummer what an investment of time these sites are.
I've only ever been on one, the aforementioned sows. It's good for really hard to find niche-interest stuff, and since you get ratio points as long as you have torrents on(regardless of people downloading from you), as long as you're not an idiot it works out.
It does kinda suck having to be responsible to a torrent tracker like that, but it also ensures you'll almost never find a torrent that you really, really want but it has no seeds. Which tends to be a big problem with public trackers.
hello fellow sows users
i'm on sows and oink, and i have a .68 ratio on sows with about 10gb worth of bonus points (which would give me like, .98), and on oink i have like a .22 ratio because getting a good ratio on oink is impossible without actually ripping and uploading new cds.
>>12 oink is bullshit i got banned twice
once for not meeting ratio requirement second for using modded client to get higher ratio so i didn't get banned b/c i accidentally went over 10gb
if you download obscure torrents that not many people download its hard to get a good ratio
>>13
Then download a popular torrent, whether you want it or not, and seed it.
>>14
Bad advice unless you get on it VERY early or have VERY good upload bandwidth.
BTW, I've never heard of sows. If it isn't too much of a secret, WTF is it?
>>12: Honestly, I don't think oink is that difficult. Keep everything seeding 24/7 until the tracker deletes it or you do, and if the tracker deletes it, reuploading with a good description (including positive reviews and cover art) can be a great way to get ratio off it. Look for interesting stuff that's just been uploaded and isn't fully seeded yet. Rip your CDs in lossless. Find missing albums on Soulseek or another tracker and upload that, if they're high enough quality. If you do all this and you're connectable, I don't think you'd have any problem... many people just don't want to invest that much time and if that includes you, then oink just isn't for you.
>>15
sows is a nickname for an invite-only tracker that deals with Bemani, music games, Japanese electronic music and other assorted things.
I'd tell you the address, but
Haha, I googled "sows tracker" and got a website about pigs. I googled "sows torrents" and the first result was this thread. Second result was loli doujinshi...
I use the "poor student"'s justification.
In some more civilized countries, the government is good enough to finance my education, so I figure the least I can do if I'm paying this much shit for schooling, is free software.
> free software
You can have that without resorting to robbing programmers of their income.
We get paid regardless.
Programmers do not get paid royalties, and even if this happened, executives would find a way to redirect the cash flow into their own pockets.
>>16
I'm really reaaaaally interested, if anybody can give me an invite, I'll seed to a 5:1 ratio for whatever. I've got maybe five-hundred gigs of shit that I want to share, and I'd love to increase that amount by joining that private tracker of yours. C'mon, gimmee.
someone invite me to any half decent torrent site.. tits.ass.cock@gmail.com
>>20
btw my email is already posted, plz hook a seeder up.
the only private tracker I'm a member of is demonoid, if that even counts.
i have a question. how can people seed so much? i only get 20gb internets a month, so i cant upload so much. you know? maybe its different in amerikkka. idk.
"amerikka" gets unlimited downloads and uploads if you're not with comcast. comcast will mail you shit warning you to stop torrenting shit if you're prolific with that shit. otherwise, "amerikkans" get unlimited everything.
>>16 Oh, you must mean bemaniso.ws, I've seen it in a list somewhere.
I'd trade my demonoid account for a sows account anyday, but I know demonoid isn't worth shit to most of you, so I'm just going to sulk here, unable to download anything awesome.
...unless anybody has an invite they want to part with?????
I can find anything i want with decent speed from free trackers.
fuck private trackers, fuck registration, fuck forced 'donations'.
>>29
Yeah, I felt this way for a long time. But when I got on oink I found lots of awesome obscure music I never thought I'd get to hear, often in lossless. If you restrict it to stuff that isn't music then I agree with you.
I still resent having to use a private tracker as that really destroys the convenience factor (most of my friends don't want to be invited because they don't want the bother of it).
People requesting invites: stop it, that's pathetic and nobody will give you one.
sure thing SHERLOK
Private trackers are great, nice speed,alot of seeders unlike public trackers where the ratio is TERRIBLE 250 leechers/ 2 seeders:s
More like Sherl0k
>>31
Yeah, but it kind of sucks if you have no friends.
And you know, you're on fucking 4-ch here.
Due to how the torrent ratio sites are built, you can easily fool all of them by just removing the tracker URL after your download has begun with a good speed. After you remove it, the site is unable to count how much you are downloading.
>>36
The ones that I know of won't let you into the swarm without a valid key.
Are you sure you're talking from experience?
When you already are downloading the torrent you don't need the tracker, because you have a direct connection to the peers.
Henceforth, you only need the tracker when you are connecting to other peers, and the communication with the tracker can stop.
Therefore you can always cheat on ratio-based trackers.
>>38 Yeah but it's dead easy to detect if you're logging all upload/download stats from each client. The books don't balance.
what.cd's ratios are easy peas. 50gigs for a .6 or somesuch.
by 20 gigs I had a 1.2