I was about to say -- whatever one might bring up against the U.S - oh my word, they do have some strong goths there. Here, goths are whiny losers with a corpse fetish in black clothes that post on liverjournal and wear rotating ankhs. Over there, they rage like a hurricane, shoot all and suicide for justice. I mean, that's the kind of grim shit I'd expect from zovjet radiomutante-larva-goths, but no, once again it's Corporate America that can build ANYTHING!