[Loony Muslims] Iran: Israel should be wiped off map [Antizionism] (21)

1 Name: Unverified Source 2005-10-27 01:27 ID:Heaven

Iran's New President Says Israel 'Must Be Wiped Off the Map'

TEHRAN, Oct. 26 - Iran's new president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, told a group of students at an anti-Israel event on Wednesday that Israel "must be wiped off the map" and that attacks by Palestinians would destroy it, the ISNA news agency reported.

He was speaking to about 4,000 students at a program called "The World Without Zionism," in preparation for an annual anti-Israel demonstration held on the last Friday of the holy month of Ramadan.
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Iran's new president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, told a group of students at an anti-Israel event today that Israel must be "wiped off the map"


2 Name: Unverified Source 2005-10-27 01:32 ID:Heaven

Danny Gillerman, Israel’s Ambassador to the U.N., demanded that the U.N. remove Iran from the organization, following Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's declaration Wednesday that Israel should be 'wiped off the map."

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon instructed the Foreign Ministry to activate Gillerman.

The PM has been urged to respond by Vice Premier Shimon Peres, who wrote in a letter to Sharon and Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom that "It is unacceptable that the leader of a state member of the U.N. advocates genocide." .

"This call goes against the U.N.'s treaty and constitutes a crime against humanity," Peres wrote.


3 Name: Unverified Source 2005-10-27 01:33 ID:Heaven

OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada strongly condemned Iran's president on Wednesday for urging that Israel be "wiped off the map," saying the comments were particularly worrying because of Tehran's nuclear ambitions.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad made his remarks on Wednesday, the official IRNA news agency reported.

"This is the 21st century. We cannot tolerate comments of such hatred, such anti-Semitism, such intolerance," Foreign Minister Pierre Pettigrew told reporters.

"And these comments are all the more troubling (given) that we know of Iran's nuclear ambitions. So I think it is very important that all countries do stand up together to make sure that we do not accept that Iran continues a nuclear program."

Iran says it needs nuclear energy to meet booming demand and dismisses the idea it will make atomic weapons.

Canada, which has had bad relations with Tehran, plans to put forward a resolution at the United Nations for the third year in a row accusing Iran of human rights violations.


4 Name: Unverified Source 2005-10-27 01:34 ID:Heaven

White House Criticizes Iranian President Over Israel Comment

The White House is criticizing Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's call for the destruction of Israel.

White House Spokesman Scott McClellan says President Ahmadinejad's comments underscore the Bush administration's concerns about Iran's nuclear intentions.

Iran says it is developing a nuclear program for peaceful civilian purposes. President Bush says he believes the country is secretly developing a nuclear weapons program.


5 Name: 1 2005-10-27 01:39 ID:Heaven

My own personal opinion: Man, this Irani president is dumb as shit. He also seems to be either pretty desperate and back against the wall or megalomaniac and slightly "out there" - probably even both.

I pity the Iranians for having to deal with such an idiot of a president. He is just isolating the country even more, there is no pan-arabic liga which could save their asses.

6 Name: 1 2005-10-27 01:40 ID:Heaven

PS: lol middle east drama

7 Name: Unverified Source 2005-10-27 11:16 ID:Heaven


lol bush

8 Name: Unverified Source 2005-10-27 14:23 ID:7xdZDbG8

Signed. Now it's pretty much a given that their nuclear reactors are going to get bombed.

9 Name: 1 2005-10-27 20:25 ID:Heaven

Yeah, but you see, Bush (or rather: the US) has actual power, for a wide variety of reasons.

The USA can afford to have a dipshit president, a typical middle east country with a desolate economy (except for state-owned oil reserves) and an international image that already is near-NorthKorean like however cannot.

10 Name: Unverified Source 2005-10-27 21:32 ID:AXsJ9pTA

Just the nuclear reacors? , USA has said countless times that if Iran attacks them , they will nuke the hole country.
And >>5 that totally true . Here you have the huge USA that's agains you , but are a member of UN. Then you just kick yourself out of UN.
Not a smart move if you ask me.

11 Name: 1 2005-10-28 01:39 ID:Heaven

Well, it's not as if UN membership is anything special. It doesn't really help getting kicked out but yknow... the UN isn't what they used to be, some 50-60 years ago...

12 Name: 8 2005-11-01 03:34 ID:Heaven

I meant that Iran has only to build the nuclear reactors to have it bombed.

13 Name: Unverified Source 2005-11-13 22:44 ID:5xvVRgGr

>USA has said countless times that if Iran attacks them , they will nuke the hole country

When have they ever said that? Do you have any links?

14 Name: Unverified Source 2005-11-14 03:26 ID:0Q8jWcVv

Hi, I'm muslim and I browse iichan, 4-ch, and occasionally 4chan.

15 Name: Unverified Source 2005-11-14 13:18 ID:5uxjs0bg

Iran's leader has seriously made a mistake. If they succeed at ousting themselves from the UN, It is true they will have no official group telling them not to build reactors and the like. But at the same time, risk having a UN "Peacekeeping" force cross into their airspace to bomb them hard enough to stay in the stoneage alot longer.

16 Name: Unverified Source 2005-11-14 14:05 ID:kOzbThVa

oh good! Will you answer these questions?


(i know they are a wash, but I thought they were amusing anyway)

17 Name: Unverified Source 2005-11-14 14:52 ID:5uxjs0bg


Ok, I am not muslim, but I have studied the islamic faith for a few years now. (Personally, I dont believe in any of the religions, just that there is a higher power) but I'll take a stab at these questions.

1. Why are you so quiet.

Fear. 'nuff said. Yes, there are many radical muslims in the world, but there are many peaceful ones as well. Now, say you were in a gang laden neighborhood here in America, and there was a gangwar in your area. One gang is dominant in your neighborhood and you disagree with them. Would you publicly protest their actions? Most likely not, unless you have a death wish.

2. Why are none of the Palestinian terrorists Christian?

Because for the fact Palestine was a dominanty Arab nation, and although there are Chritian Palestinians, they are not as oppressed and shunned by the Isrealis as the Arabs are. The Jews and Arabs have been feuding for mellinia now, and there will be no end. Now they hold the power there, and are taking it out by oppressing the Arabs who had oppressed them in those lands.

Is it really fair that if a Palestinian blows himself up and kills 3 Isrealis. The Isreali Army retaliates with a missle strike on a "Terrorist Outpost" Or what is more commonly known as Refugee camp, and kill well over 40 Men, Women and Children? Is this right to do?

3. Why is only one of the 47 Muslim-majority countries a free country?

The labling of a "Free" country is given to one mainly not run by the religion of the leaders in a sense. Arab nations follow the holy book, the Q'uran, as its supreme law. And abide by that strictly, thus, other nations do not label it as "Free" because the holy laws of the book are far outdated, and very restricting.

4. Why are so many atrocities committed and threatened by Muslims in the name of Islam?

This one constitutes my favorite line to use. "It only takes one madman to corrupt a religion, and Islam was next on the list." Many of the radicals make their claims in the name of Islam, saying that the holy book says to slay the infidels, but, if you actually read the book, you will learn that this is not true at all. The Q'uran is a book of Hospitality. Which is one of the most important pillars of the Islam faith. But over many years, the teachers of Islam have twisted the words of the faith, into a more bitter violent meaning. And teaching someone from the time they are young, to kill the infidels, and that god wills you to do this, what do you expect?

5. Why do countries governed by religious Muslims persecute other religions?

The fact of Saudi Arabia not allowing churches or synagoges, that nation is the seat of the Muslim holy land, with Mecca inside its borders. It is just the same as The Holy See in a sense. You think they would let me build a Mosque within the borders of the Vatican City (Which is a soverign nation to those who didnt know)

The Taliban was a radical group that came to power in an arabic nation, following the teaching that "Infidels are bad and should be killed, and anything of those infidel religions.

The Sudan's islamic community is also radical, in a nation that is in a state of Chaos. Both sides are fighting and killing eachother. The Media is playing on the fact of Muslims killing the Christians to add fuel to the fire. But there have also been slaughters of Muslims by Christian factions.

Now... I hope my attempts were pretty good at these questions, and I again mention, I am not arabic, muslim, or religious in any sense, so I could be faulty on my answers, but I am answering in the sense of the facts I know.

18 Name: Unverified Source 2005-11-14 18:27 ID:Z+F5BTnR


19 Name: Unverified Source 2005-11-15 06:51 ID:ortrUNr1

> The Jews and Arabs have been feuding for mellinia now, and there will be no end.

Hey, the Arabs and Christians have been feuding for millenia as well, and yet somehow the Arabs aren't commiting acts of terro... well... the Christians aren't respo... aw, fuck.

20 Name: Alexander!DxY0NCwFJg 2005-11-15 17:08 ID:Heaven


Your answers are very nice (better than I could manage), but I suspect there are a lot more non-religion answers to these questions. Oil and scarcity of resources (other than oil) are two that come to mind. I've seen report of the development potential of the middle east/surroundings cited that basically stated oil as one barrier to development (don't remember the source at all, sorry). Overpopulation and too many (unemployed!) men is supposedly a big problem in Pakistan and other places (no job, no purpose and starving? Feel like dying gloriously instead?).

The main problem would still probably be the oil. It supports local dictators and makes foreign powers interested in bad ways. (no, this isn't about US in Iraq, it goes back way earlier than that!)

21 Name: Unverified Source 2005-11-19 02:45 ID:Heaven


Although that is the case, people will often need an ideological reason to behave in this manner, if only to sleep at night later. Especially with the low-level grunts, who are significantly less likely to profit from their superior's rise to power.

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