I've think Japanese is great. I love Japanese.
Because I like Japanese, it came to this home page.
>>1
how about you>?
I think Japanese is almost as crazy as Finnish.
Japanese isn't far as sick as Finnish. By the way >>3, you speak Swedish too, right?
I like Japanese. I should get my act together and finally learn it
but I say that about a lot of things.
Finnish doesn't use three alphabets, one of which is the most complex on Earth. Otherwise it might be a contender.
Also,Finnishdoesn'tputallthewordstogetherlikeinJapanese. :)
I am pleased by Japanese.
I am green with envy.
You know, the size of Japanese men is shorter and smaller than you guys.
Probably the average size is shortest in the world.
Lots of men try to make it large.
Slapping, pulling...
>>10
I have studied both Japanese and Finnish, and I said in >>3 that I think Finnish is stranger than Japanese, but >>4 and >>6 do not agree.
An interesting thing is that there are many words that exist in both Finnish and Japanese but mean completely different things. "kana" in Finnish means "chicken/鶏". "tori" means (sort of) "marketplace/市場". Also, "Mika" is a popular boy's name in Finnish.
>>4
Yes. Swedish is my first language.
>>4
Oh, I didn't know. Always thought that Finnish was your mother-tongue.
And by the way, I did agree with you that Finnish is crazier than Japanese. Maybe I formulated it weird...
I thought his first language was Norsk. How strange...
I have a Finnish buddy who's 25 years old and still in high school. WTF?
What I said in >>7 :
Also, Finnish doesn't put all the words together like in Japanese. :)
[フィンランド語は日本語として言葉を一緒に接着剤でつけません。](?)
x Norsk
o Norwegian
>>15
Speaking of the Japanese writing style,
it may strike you as strange and foreign.
I don't deny it.
When it comes to pronunciation, however, English words are
also put together, don't they?
And in my view, that's one reason many Japanese feel they can't hear what English-speaking people say.
>>11
I've never studied Finnish, but your examples were
very interesting to me!
As I don't know about both Swedish and Finnish,
I'm wondering whether there's a big difference between them.
By the way, I like Swedish singers such as Ace of Base.
Not to change the subject, but
can you tell me how to creat a new thread on this
messsage system?
I've made some threads on 2ch, but I have no idea how
to do it on 4ch.
I'd like to set up the thread on which English-speaking
people write in Japanese and Japanese people write
in English. If you also like it, though...
>>19
In Toothpaste mode, it's the green frame on top.
>>18
Swedish and Finnish sound and look completely different.
>>17
Well yes, it's true that native English speakers have a tendency to blur all their words together when they speak. ^^;
And when you ask them to repeat, they just give you the same sentence at the same speed. ^^;
But the talking heads on tv/radio make an effort to articulate clearly.
>>19
http://kao.wakachan.net/r/src/1103592062703.png
>>18
Finnish and Swedish are completely different.
Finnish belongs to the Finno-Ugric languages and Swedish to the Indo-European languages which have very different systems and history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_language
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language/history
>>18
Swedish and Finnish are as different from each other as Japanese and English. Finnish has loaned some words from Swedish, but that is the only connection (and Japanese also has lots of English words). Swedish is a germanic language, like English, and they are quite similar. Since I speak Swedish, English was quite easy to learn. Finnish speakers have much more trouble learning English (I guess English is not easy to learn for Japanese speakers either).
>>22
English speakers pretend the language has different vowels, but they only ever use the schwa.
schwa = upside down 'e' right?
>21,23,24
Thank you very much.
A little bit surprised to learn Swedish and Finnish
differ that much.
Now I have the new knowledge on those two languages!
>>20
Thanks.
I'll try it later.
English: I love you.
Norwegian (Bokmål): Jeg elsker deg.
Norwegian (Nynorsk): Eg elskar deg.
Swedish: Jag älskar dig.
Danish: Jeg elsker dig.
Icelandic: Ég elska þig.
Faroese: Eg elski teg.
Finnish: Mina rakastan sinua.
Lappish: Mun rahkistin du.
:)
>>27
Did you just lookup that, or do you know very much about languages?
*Orsaka meg*, Faroese is a language spoken by about 48,000 people in the Faroe Islands and about 25,000 in Denmark. In total, about 80,000 people speak it.
Lies. Denmark just made that up so it could look like a colonial power.
What about the 100,000 hits for .fo in Google?
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:.fo
180,000, even.
Yeah, they're all from these so-called Faroe Islands, just like every .cx domain is from Christmas Island, .nu domain from Niue and .to domain from Tonga.
君達も、早く日本が国連の常任理事国になれるように推薦しなさい。
The range I can read to understand was exceeded...
Hmmmm.... I read.... and understood about....
Are Finnish and Japanese really alike?
Japanese maybe looks crazy as it's not using alphabets.
But also I thought that alphabets looks funny as soon as I look it first.
But I change my mind later, it can be useful.
I wonder why Japanese was thought crazy so far...
>Are Finnish and Japanese really alike?
No.
[いいえ]
Some linguist tried to prove that the Japanese/Chinese/Korean languages have a connection with some of the Roman languages, but he failed.
[言語学者は、日本か中国の、または、韓国の言語にはローマ言語のいくつかとの関係があると立証しようとしました。彼は失敗しました。]
>>39
The Finnish and Japanese languages have nothing to do with each other. But, by chance, they sound a bit like each other, and there are many words that exist in both languages, but mean very different things.
There's a common influence in that a long long time ago, there were a whole bunch of barbarians living in the desert & hilly wasteland of modern-day Siberia, Mongolia and northern China. Because these are not very nice places, some of them decided to go west to Europe and become Finns, Hungarians, etc. The remainder conquered China (several times) and may have had some effect on the Japanese language through them.
However, this influence would most likely show itself in ON (Chinese-derived) readings for kanji, while the Japanese words that look vaguely similar to Finnish are KUN (homegrown) readings.
As Sling said, no language ties between East and West have been proven, besides some tenuous grammatical similarities which aren't immediately obvious to anyone not fluent in examples of both language groups and trained in linguistics.
I like Japanese, though some are really strange.
But there are always strange people everywhere in the world.
Some are very shy, but what makes me more surprised is
that quite a few English teachers seem to hate talking
with English-speaking people.
Oh, I see.
I guess it's because their English is very limited,
or I'm sorry to say they don't speak English at all.
What you said makes perfect sense.
It sure sounds weird people who teach English
don't speak it. Most Japanese think the same way.
Anyway, did you teach English in Japan?
No. Actually I'm not an English-native. I work for
a trading company.
>>10,
Japanese is probably the best language there is.
I am still struggling to learn it but
I will make an effort to know enough to maintain
a simple conversation on 2ch.
Death to those who despise the Greatest People on
Earth,The Japanese People!
japanese are cock sucker, we japanese are supremely screwed up
Is that true, that depression is a major problem amongst japanese youths?
I'd guess that depression is a major problem amongst any youth on this planet today.
Yep. Life sure sucks and whatnot.
日本人はとてもとても面白いと思うけど、自分は日本を訪ねたいの事はない。
買い物は高いのに、外人を見縊るの事も凡策と聞いたんのに（韓国の友達から聞いた、これはデマじゃないでしょう？）駅で変態爺からセクハラ/ストーカーを受けるのに、何時も震災をびくびくのに、日本を大好きなの。
>>54
釣り失敗乙。
海豚＝いるか＝iruka＝dolphin＝sea pig
Now that i have moved back from japan, i really miss it alot. I want to get back!
I feel so out of place and depressed here.
Me?.. no im not japanese..
i have travelled all my life, and have lived in many different countries, but i really felt like i was home in japan.. i cant describe it, it's just a feeling.
But im only 21 years old, and i dont have the money to move back to japan.. (-_-)
>>59
That's okay, people in Japan don't have enough money to live there either.
>>1
I like it, although I don´t understand it very well.
I especially have a hard time learning kanji.
I am trying my best to level up my skills!
今、日本では物価安いよ
韓国よりはマシ
We lost japanese traditional culture.
Well, I just happened upon 4ch (yesterday...) and I came here to talk with some Japanese people. This thread seemed like an excellent place to start. I was considering buying a book on japanese so I could understand what was being said on some of these threads, and so I could better converse with the locals. After all, I can't seem to get around how complicated Kanji is! I was watching a documentury on Japan once, and I am startled by how much trouble people go through to use it. How many characters are there in kanji, anway?
>>65
seemingly,its difficult to use kanji but its only combination
of "hen" and "tukuri" .
if you learn it for 3years,you wll be able to use kanji
very well.
There are "hiragana" in japan but CHINESE use kanji only.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C5%8Dy%C5%8D_kanji
this is the list of kanji(Junior high school level)
