I think I have some problems. (18)

1 Name: worthless : 2008-05-29 09:08 ID:DlhuLo1/

I barely go out, and when I do its to get somthing and get right back in. I spead more then ten hours a day on my laptop. I think I might be a hermit. I simply dont know what to do with my life. I live with a family member who helps me out but I know shes going stop sooner or later.

I feel this great sence of worthlessness. I just dont see the point of waking up anymore. I dont think about killing myself. I just see myself as a nothing a non person.

2 Name: Anonymous : 2008-05-29 12:49 ID:4on68AdI

First, I must take a moment to commend you with the highest regard for not referring to yourself as a "hikkomori", "hikki", or any similar trendy and glamorized bull$hit... A hermit's a simple and adequate description, even though it may not be the one you desire!

Some items to consider bulletpoints:

  1. Do you have an education? Not sure how old you are, but High School or College educations are required for many jobs, and even if you don't have the college education, you will likely still need a High School education to get anything but a very low class job;
  2. Do you have any at all kind of job, even if work for your family member? Without a job, people often feel worthless, as it's the work we do and benefits to our society that contribute a great deal, to our sense of worth and self-value; Even people who don't have to work, such as winning a lottery, often keep their jobs, simply to contribute constructively with their time;
  3. You say you "barely go out"... Why? Isn't there nothing you can do outside? Take a walk while listening to mp3s, read a good fantasy or sci-fi book in a park or under a tree? Fall asleep somewhere on a bench in the sun? (Not sure what kind of environment you live in, either)... There are many constructive things you could be doing outside, are you adverse to them, and why?
  4. Do you know noone else in the area? No friends? Even online, oftentimes on forums and such, people will post where they're from, and meetup in real life to just hang out or whatnot; This could be a successful way to meet other people and make connections, perhaps even someone who knows where you can get a job;
  5. You say you spend more than 10 hours a day on your laptop; What are you doing? What is it that occupies that much time? Playing PC games? Watching shows or anime? ...Even, I daresay , fapping? There's nothing wrong with any of those activities, but do you have no other interests at all?? Have you ever searched for employment in your area online, which is a productive thing to do?

Ultimately, you're hardly worthless, you just need to do productive things to occupy your time, likely, in your case, finding a regular job, which will take up that mass of excess time and give you something of value in your life;

3 Name: Anonymous : 2008-05-29 15:15 ID:TxbwtigZ

Productivity or a job does not mean happiness. Picture it this way, right now you get to do what you kinda like doing (otherwise you wouldn't). Now replace those hours with a drone like work hours and afterwards you will be too tired to do anything. PLUS you're not really social and you don't have a girlfriend, might not get one in the future. Working 40 years + no girlfriend = hell=no real reason to work at all.

ENJOY your hermit life, don't listen to those brainwashed sheep like>>2

4 Name: >>2 : 2008-05-29 15:53 ID:4on68AdI

>>2 here...

Ooookay... Chill pill time, as that was kinda baaaaaahhhdd... (Sorry, a little humor injected there...)

First off, considering how I don't think that my enjoying the job I do in IT, helping people with technology, making money at the same time, enough to buy any games I want, play World of Warcraft, go to things like Anime 'cons, and have a girlfriend who loves me, as being "brainwashed", or being in "hell", it would appear we've got some unprovoked disgruntled antagonism here... Again... Chill pill time...

To clarify some points:

  1. I am not saying that Productivity or a Job means happiness in any way... However, OP mentions financial problems, as their family member will likely not be supporting them much longer. However much happiness one may have doing whatever they like, it's not very conducive to happiness, not to mention not dying, to starve and not have a roof over their head... I think it's obvious that a job is going to have to happen here, unless money were to suddenly fall from the sky onto OP...
  2. A lot of people do something that they seem to like, while realizing that it is actually not very productive or conducive to their continued happiness, which is what it seems OP has come to the realization of... By the thought pattern that "if you're happy doing something, do nothing else", then if someone is happy sitting in a room, they should continue to sit there, beyond starvation unto death... Not very "productive", but yes, certainly "doing what they like doing", by that thought pattern...
  3. It may surprise some people that not all jobs have "Drone like work hours"... While some low-class jobs may have poor work hours, that was clearly why I ask what Education level OP has, as to what that can gain OP... I don't think working some hours of the day (for money, which will ultimately be required to get by), don't often leave you "too tired to do anything" afterwards... I cleaned the bedroom, then went to dinner with my girlfriend after work yesterday, and afterward, played World of Warcraft with her for several hours... Yesterday, we went to a local park in the area after I got out of work, and she, out of classes, and went swimming; I don't consider it being "too tired to do anything"...
  4. OP may not be very social (I'm not terribly a popular socialite either), but having someone to talk to is oftentimes better than one's own self for eternal company, as many people have found, and since OP is obviously feeling dissatisfied with his hermetic life, this would be a step towards changing that...
  5. As far as not having a girlfriend, I honestly don't know where that came from, as I didn't recall mentioning anything about him needing a girlfriend, nor did OP mention needing a girlfriend, so I don't quite know what that had to do with anything, or why that was said... I'm not sure what that "Working + No Girlfriend" = hell equation had to do with anything either, as I don't really understand that logic, or how it really had to do, again, with what OP said...

Ultimately, while I may apparently be a brainwashed sheep by some people's calculations, I know that I'm greatly enjoying my life, and it would appear that OP is dissatisfied with his, not "enjoying" it by the very nature of him existing, so I think some constructive suggestions to help him improve his quality of life and greater enjoy it are much desired by OP;

Good luck, OP

5 Name: Anonymous : 2008-05-29 17:09 ID:TxbwtigZ

>>4 It is true that hermitism also does not bring happiness..far from it.Social cravings (even when you don't wanna admit it), feeling sometimes guilty/worthless as OP, thinking you are "missing out", etc etc. BUT if i have to choose a side between a SAD member of society or a SAD hermit, i'll go with the hermit (my opinion) as you feel great in your productivity, i do not.(YES, i work but if i could back to the old me, i would..life is a disappointment).

Ohyeah sorry for the harsh words mate! Peace

6 Name: Worthless : 2008-05-30 02:58 ID:DlhuLo1/

Op here, I guess I shuld have said I was a girl. I thank you for your posts. I have a high school education. Only thing my family member asks of me is that I cook dinner once and a while. In my area theres nothing really around me. At first I was looking for places to go. Went to the library a bunch of times. Used there computers. Then I got the laptop as a gift.
When Im online I tend to surf the chans. I tryed to check for jobs online. It seems they all want experance, I lack that. In all forms. I never worked in high school.

Thank you again.

7 Name: Anonymous : 2008-05-30 03:05 ID:jpPaJ2HK

> It seems they all want experance, I lack that. In all forms.

They say they want experience. What they're really after is an individual that's pleasant to be around who gets the job done. Figure out a way to demonstrate that.

Also, if you don't apply for any jobs you have zero chance of getting one.

8 Name: Anonymous : 2008-05-30 13:37 ID:I0kahSPJ

Hello. Not trying to derail the OP's thread, but I'm in a similar situation that she is.

I'm a hermit too, high school aged. I am home tutored currently (tutors come to my house weekly for each of my school subjects) due to a chronic illness. I started on the home tutoring program about a month ago. While I was attending school on a regular basis I had a few acquaintances but I haven't heard anything from them lately. I'm shy in social situations, which give me stress and stomach aches. I think I am a pleasant person though.

Anyway, my reason for posting: I'm lonely. I have hobbies and stuff to keep me busy, but I really want friends to talk to. I can't leave my house too often due to being sick, and I don't think I'd be able to make any friends since I don't go to normal school. I don't want to join non-anonymous forums because I am so shy. I'm banned from most of the large chans. What should I do?

9 Name: Shadowsoul : 2008-05-30 18:18 ID:r5FxNMAy

hello Op and Anonymous poster 8. I think I can relate to OP's situation. you don't really know what to do with yourself? well tell us, what are your hobbies then?

10 Name: Jx : 2008-05-30 18:38 ID:1yEo1jbx

You know your problems, so why aren't you trying to do anything about it? You mean you never had a friend in your whole life before? You can go out with your friends, for a lunch, for a basketball game or even just window-shopping!

Nothing is boring as long as you think its not boring.

I dare you to not touch the computer/laptop for one full day, for the first.

11 Name: Shadowsoul : 2008-05-30 18:59 ID:r5FxNMAy

if you have no friends, I can be one. (not trying to be creepy here or anything)

12 Name: Anonymous : 2008-05-30 20:07 ID:Heaven

>>10
Well, I should explain myself better. It's not that I've never ever had a friend: I don't have any friends right now. I started attending a new school this year, and being sick so often I haven't been in very much at all. I met a few people, but none of them are friendly enough that I would hang out with outside of school.

>>11
That's... endearing.

13 Name: shadowsoul : 2008-05-30 23:42 ID:r5FxNMAy

to the op and >>12 poster, about the friend thing, not saying that out of pity, I am saying this out of the fact that it might be interesting to know you guys/girls. Again not trying to creep you out.

14 Name: Anonymous : 2008-05-31 02:34 ID:yoAeqEdw

I used to face my computer for at least 18 hours a day and I barely even eat and sleep. I am also not taking baths (that even now I don't sometimes, maybe it became a habit). I tremble whenever I go out of my room, I avoid interacting with other people but I don't have a hard time being with them, I guess I don't think in the norms that people find me weird when I conversate with them. I always get "you don't let anyone enter in your world" or something. So to save myself from getting the same line over and over again, and to save myself from the boredom caused when I interact with other people, I isolate myself in my room. I don't hate people, I just want to enjoy the time that I have with myself. I have many friends (and non-friends) that even if they think that i'm an alien, would love to go out with me. Sooooooo... Beside from my 8 hour day job, I go home, face my laptop, relax, and enjoy the rest of my day.

Maybe i'll go out when I find someone like me, someone that will interest me and not bore me to death.

15 Name: Worthless : 2008-05-31 04:33 ID:DlhuLo1/

>>11
It takes a lot to creep me out Missgirlyx on aim.

Thanks to everyone who has posted. I have read every one of them.

Im..going outside tomarrow. Little brother invited me to play a card game with him. Shuld be fun. I hope.

16 Name: Anonymous : 2008-05-31 04:54 ID:yoAeqEdw

Take care and have fun. Focus on the fun and not on your worries.

17 Name: Worthless : 2008-05-31 05:27 ID:DlhuLo1/

I shall try.

18 Name: Anonymous : 2008-05-31 18:40 ID:BZ6Sy+ap

>>14
You're not isolating yourself in your room if you have an 8 hour day job.

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