Especially when they are typically in their 30s+, over weight, not attractive, and an uber-Christian looking for a "real man" and goes into the "no sex only" or "never have sex before marriage" shit. Oh, and be 6 feet tall! WTF!
And they almost never have a job and live at home with the parents.
Seriously...guys are expected to date these females?
i guess its because they know they arent going to get a guy, so they put on giant expectations, so it goes something like "its not my figure or status etc, its the guys the dont match my standards.
im not sure though i might wanna ask one of them cause im a guy.
For the same reason ugly pathetic men only want to date hot girls I suppose.
>>3 took the words right outta my mouth.
you got the literal short end of the genetic stick, sorry guy. hating on the women for being illogical isnt going to get you anywhere. protip: a shitty cynical attitude wont help you with your shortcomings.
Yes, it sucks that women are hard-wired to desire tall men.
But you could have it much worse...
I do not think that is the problem. Women are raised to dislike short men, period. It is hard to break that kind of conditioning if you are a single short guy, in your late 20s/early 30s, and have never had sex. And the older you get, the pool gets smaller and smaller and the women left fall into four groups:
As you can see, group 4 is the only viable option let that is the group that is most picky of a guy. Typically this group, while there are single, accumulated wealth and other niceties in life and have no problem being picky about what man they want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NvgLkuEtkA
I believe this song is relevant to discussion.
Instead of bitching and moaning about women not liking short dudes, why don't you go find yourself a hobbitess or something?
It's evolution. If I were a girl I'd be damned if I were going to mess with a short shit.
pssst I'm 6'10 and I don't see girls lining up outside of my house. It's all about personality.
Shorter men are decidedly without merit, unless you're into midgets. Or gay. Now stunted femmes that stand about level to your waist are brilliant. Unless, again, you're gay. Or a midget.
it's like why men like women with big boobs it's a sign of fertility. Being tall is a a sign of strength, it sucks but it's true, and hard to break the funk. Maybe one day majority of men won't like women with big boobs but it's not happening anytime soon. However there are plenty of attractive short men and women with smaller breast, but maybe until then you should stop looking for a women and let it happen, without all the stress of searching, good luck!
It's obvious. The whole patriarchy social complex extends to this naturally, so women want "protectors" and someone with the physique to back it up. I'm not speaking for all women, just for the ones dumb enough to fall under the shade of the personality spectrum you have just described.
Height is a very attractive thing for women. I can't say for sure why, but I can throw a few theories out there. Whether you agree with them or not, here they are.
-taller= better genes
-implies dominance over shorter people
-it's more awkward to hug/snuggle with a shorter guy
-following the train of the last 2, it's possible that a taller man has a definite physical form of dominance over the girl
-women are attracted to different things than men are
I hope that helps.
I believe a woman with a large bust has an effect more like a man with well-defined muscles. It's a head-turner, not a deal-breaker.
I don't think there's really a female equivalent to a male of short stature.
Maybe a woman being over forty or fifty is more analogous, or a single mother.
Are you a short fellow, or are you shorter than the girls you're trying to get?
If you don't mind, what's your actual height?
>>15
But it transcends that. It is, for many girls, a deal-breaker. They're petty about things like that.
I agree. I have personally walked up to girl only to have her say "oh god you are way too short" before I say anything. Of course they "apologize" for saying it but they really meant it. I just walk off and not bother.
Normally I would just chalk it up to "one stupid bitch" but the thing is, this happens to me a lot.
>>15
Yeah, but a guy with no muscles can still fare a lot better than a girl who is as flat as a washboard.
Maybe the equivalent to the short guy would be a really tall girl.
Anyway, if you're the type that meets girls at a club, have you ever thought of putting insoles in your shoes for that few inches extra? After all, most of those girls are wearing high heels..
when i saw the thread title, i was going to come in here and say something supportive about short men and try to be helpful in some way.
but after reading the first post, my sympathy fizzled out.
it's the same thing you see all over these boards- men complain about how terrible it is that women won't see past (insert trait here) and love them anyway / while simultaneously being hyper-critical of any women who don't fall into a particular range of acceptable hotness.
maybe some of these guys should try going out into the world and looking at real people. not everyone looks like characters in a drama/movie/anime. most people walking around living their lives would likely not be anything like the visions of perfection we are all blasted with in the media.
but you know what? they are out there anyway- working, partying with friends, having adventures, dating, falling in love, getting married, etc. and they don't have to be conventionally gorgeous to do it.
when you dehumanize others for not meeting your standards, then you can't really expect much in return.
just saying.
This. So, so much.
Whenever I need a laugh I read this thread, because seriously, "WOMEN ARE MEEEEAAAANNN TO MEEEEEE BECAUSE I'M SHORT, BUT I DON'T NEED THEM ANYWAYS BECAUSE THEY'RE FAT AND UGLY AND I DESERVE BETTER BECAUSE I'M A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE"
Man, I feel sorry for the people that have to interact with this loser irl.
I reject shorter men because I'm 4'10".
I never understood the fascination with height. Being over six foot doesn't suddenly make one an Adonis. I'm 6'4" and fucking hideous.
Not sure if I'm the first girl to comment on this.
While the comments about the instinctual liking of height to show strength, not only for dominance, but also for the ability to protect, is right I don't like tall guys. They scare me. A lot. It's mostly because my brother is 6'4" and I'm 5'5" and when he has a temper tantrum he always hurts me. He's mentally disabled but it's still scared me a lot and put me off of tall men. I do have male friends who are really tall, like my brother, and nice. I'm comfortable with them because I'm used to them, sort of. But for 'going - out' I prefer men 5'7" at the very most before I become too intimidated. I have nothing against short men. Although, it would be preferable if they were at least 5'1"...because I am hypermobil and have a lot of back pain bending down too much may hurt. And before you ask, no I will not go out with you. I'm only 16. And no I'm not an ugly tart. I'll let you know I weigh 8 stone, fit into size 8 (40 inches, British size) and have a good quantity of male friends, and female ones. Anonie xxx
so many things to appreciate ,take your time to explore, love yourself, DON'T DEAL WITH EMOTIONAL BULSHT LIKE THAT..., Don't try to make people like you, Be positive, believe in yourself and people will admire the success.
Sometimes people get fixated on what they perceive as their weak point (height, teeth, penis size, etc), and explain all their troubles by this often superficial flaw.
At the same time they fail to see the much bigger issues that are often the real show stoppers, simply they are too uncomfortable to deal with them.
I know short men have a disadvantage, but really, I've seen that they do find a match, and quite a few are real playboys. At the end of the day, it's often men who have the most trouble accepting their height, not the women they meet.
Well, I am six feet three tall and, as a recovering hikki, my height has not done me a damn bit of good with women. Height is pretty frickin' useless if you have never had a girlfriend in 30+ years of life. So take heart, because I am just sure that even someone five feet tall has had more action than us tall shut ins.
Women don't necessarily reject shorter men, but women do find height to be attractive, and it's about the man's height relative to a woman's own height.
A tall woman who likes taller men has it bad, think about Sakaki from Azumanga Daioh.
Height isn't everything, though, so don't be afraid to talk to a woman taller than you.
I'm a pretty short guy, around 5'6. No sexual contact ever, but I'm a pretty introverted person. People I have known who are also short haven't really had a problem as far as I know.