Why is japan superior to countries such as USA?
1)No hippies.
Why do you think?
>>4
Then, the question resolves itself to:
"Why is Japan more Japanese than other countries such as the USA?"
>>5 However, it is not as clear cut as it first appears! USA has many japanese people in it, so why is it that they have not brought up the cultural level of the degenerate savages up from nascar and budwiser?
Is it a matter of numbers, or are other cultures simply incapable of forming polite and well-educated societies?
Lets see how long it takes for a college republican to be insulted by this post.
>>8 depends on how long it takes them to find someone to read it to them. kekeke
It's amazing, I think of how the USA talks about freedom, and then I think of how little they can do compared to japan and I lol.
delete this shit; leave the japan-america mantrain at 4chan.
also, both nations are thoroughly overrated
Hikikomori = Superiority
look just 'cause japan has tenticle porn does not make it superior.
I think asia in general is getting much stronger because of an emphasis on education and research into technology. America is falling back because it isn't as invested in that kind of thing.
What I expect is that China and possibly Korea are going to surpass the US eventually. The thing is, this isn't just Japan. Japan is part of the same trend, but I think it's a bit more general. Asia is rising, Japan is just noticed because of the Otaku.
And I'm not a college republican. I'm a green, more or less.
The irony of this thread is that Japan rushes like a little slave everyday to lovingly fellate her American master. All the Japanese girls secretly want gaijin cock, and the little-dicked Japanese man can't even satisfy their own women. That's why Japanese girls are always screaming for white guys or Korean guys or black guys or even Arab guys. We nuke them twice and the Japs are like docile little lambs.
>>17
Yeehaw Billybob! Let's get our shotguns and go a-hunting!
Politics (international + domestic) aside, what does Japan have going for it, really?
I'm no economist, so I can't say too much in that area, but both the US and Japan have strong economies (japan is finally recovering from it's stalled econ, i hear), so neither nation has an edge.
Culturally, however, I'm leaning more on america's side, although it's close:
So overall, this is what I'm seeing: Japan and America have various merits, and neither is clearly better. However, the Japanese (or people who wish they were japanese) seem to constantly feel the need to compare their nation's penis with the other.
My conclusion? Fap to japanese porn, drive german cars, drink mexican beer, and go to America's colleges.
Well, as far as culture is concerned, just as an American, I can think of three things that Japan contributed that weren't available to the West before WW2
Now technology wise, they did dominate for a while as they had a highly technically skilled population that could manufacture electronics and so on. The rest of Asia is catching up, and I think is probably already passing Japan by. South Korea as far as technology is definately an equal if not superior in some areas.
As far as pop culture, Japan compares favorably only because I'm not a fan of much on American TV or Movies. I hate reality TV, movies right now all seem to be cut from one of a shrinking number of pre-written storylines. I'm tired of special-effects fests, movies that exist only to "shock" middle america, and animated movies featuring animals with famous voices. Our pop-culture seemed best in 1950-1970 or thereabouts. Now, we're out of ideas.
Teh nipps are superior for they invented Enka music.
Its the Christian fundamentalist elements along with the lefty multiculturalist/politically correct types that are opposing biotechnology and slowing down technological change in europe/america/australia. That's why Japan is more high tech.
Really? I always figured it was the crappy education. In the USA, you can graduate practically illiterate and unable to do basic math, to say nothing of our craptacular science education.
Not all of that is Christian Fundementalism. A good deal is that we just don't put a high value on education. The Japanese student is studying hard, the American is doodling in his notebook and listening to his iPod. I don't think you can blame Christianity for the lazyness of American students.
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Japanese are educated to be polite, work and study hard.
everyone is watching each other and we cannot act abnormally in pubulic place.
instead of the stress, they shows their passion and real personalities for their own hobbies.
that's why there are so many Otakus.
that's why
And yet, despite all of this, the American economic juggernaut lumbers forward, continuously reinventing itself. Besides, everyone knows that Public education is practically useless here (not because of low spending, because of the staff-to-teacher ratio is something like 9:1, more beaureaucrats, less actual policymaking outside of whining about teacher pay/training, which is usually nonexistent, so don't bother wasting your breath about getting educated, because you'll only get blank stares and shuffling paper from them anyway). The most valuable education in the US takes place after High School, when all the poor sods who took public can catch up and pursue a meaningful career.
> And yet, despite all of this, the American economic juggernaut lumbers forward, continuously reinventing itself.
I'd be a bit more impressed if the US government wasn't spending itself continually deeper into a hole. The debt is currently well over half the GDP.
Something really needs to be done about that. When the day of reckoning comes, the whole world is going to be hurting.
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I think every country has each problem.
America has extremely strong forces and dollar is the biggest money for the world.
Japan has nothing but people.
well educated people are our only power to earn money.
if you stop exporting food and oil to Japan, we cannot survive even 2 years.
>>23
My post explains we have the reason why we've got crappy education. The Christian fundamentalists are promoting their pseudo-science and the leftist multiculturalists are allowing schools to decay in the name of justice.
Fair enough, but I would argue that the Leftists pose an immensely greater problem to the education system than Christian "fundies" (which are pretty dumb individuals, but fairly harmless in a practical sense, as they obviously aren't pursuing scientific educations, and therefore cannot affect any changes within the scientific establishment).
Yes that's part of it, but even at the "Community College" (in quotes because for they are NOT colleges, but "colleges" for people too stupid or university), showing up for class guarentees you a passing score (also true for the dumbed down to assinine level "introductory" uni courses). I was able to get C's and B's in courses where I didn't buy the book. There was no graded homework, the tests (even in so-called advanced classes) were 100% multiple choice. For the few cases where "research" is required in a US university, usually ten minutes of google was all that was needed. That may be slightly different from say an engineering education at MIT, but for most students, even at University, you don't work hard.
Compare that to even middle school in Japan, where you get several hours of REAL homework at night, and in many cases their parents are taking them for several hours of supplimentary education after school. They work hard, morning til night to be educated. I'd challenge the otaku (JApanese speaking/reading of course, to find a few Japanese middle school math problems and try to solve them.
> Leftists pose an immensely greater problem to the education system than Christian "fundies"
Please define "Leftists", then elaborate why they are a greater problem than "fundies".
Those who believe in the dogmas of socialism, atheism, multiculturalism, and suicidal pacifism. They fill our children's minds with poisonous ideas of moral relativism, they spend more time lobbying for staff and teacher's pay increases, while neglecting the more pressing issues, like basic education (English, Math, Science, Geography, History, and Physical Ed.), and focus more attention on non-english speaking students. They thrive in mediocrity, encouraging sloth and giving out extra credit, and even outright allowing failing students to pass. They are ultimately responsible for allowing our once world competitive education system to sink into disarray.
You might find the OECD PISA publications enlightening. For example, this: http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/15/47/34011082.xls
How does this data fit in with your theory?
Reasonably well, actually. As a world power, I would expect to recieve scores fitting into the top ten, at least. I find it rather humiliating to make it into the 50th percentile.
Congratulations to the Fins ;_;
>>34
I think he was referring to the fact that the Finnish government is decidedly socialist.
1) Less annoying religions
2) No multicultural brainwashing, ethnic gangs killing each other, et cetera.
3) Low crime
4) No rampant anti-intellectualism
5) Good video games
6) Dependable public transportation
7) Strong middle class - the government actively stops outsourcing with huge tariffs.
>>2
(1) Why all the hostility toward religion? it isn't christianity that graduates kids illiterate, it's lazy-ass parents. If you compare the quality of Christian schools to public schools, the students score far far higher in reading and in math. A student in a Christian school will graduate first grade knowing reading, writing, and basic addition and substraction. By 3rd grade, they'll be able to multiply and devide as well -- by hand.
I'll grant you that Christian schools aren't particularly good at teaching Biology. But for just about anything else, Christian schools are hands down better schools than public schools.
(2) What exactly are we considering "multi-cultural brainwashing"
Is it Western is the only way to do things, Christianity is the true religion kind of thing? That's the kind of stuff I hear from people who are pissed about multiculturalism.
Also, Japan is pretty much a single ethnic group (minus the Ainu), so you couldn't be multicultural if you wanted to... It would be like a multi-religious Christian community. Same with ethnic gang wars. They're all Japanese, who are they going to have an ethnic gang war with?
(3) Well, yeah I agree actually.
(4) WTF? I don't know that the US is all that much more anti-intellectual than other places. It isn't like you'll go to ... say England, or Israel, or Korea and find that the garbage man is reading shakespeare on his lunch break. Heck, I doubt you'll find many garbage men reading at all, no matter where you go. Most people just learn enough to get by.
(5) would seem to work against Japan. More distractions for the kiddies and more things that they'd rather do than study. I mean really, any kid on the planet would probably rather play a game than do algebra.
(6) So do we, if you live in an urban area.
(7) is obviously why Toyota and Honda have US based plants.
I think what it comes to is work ethic first and formost. We play more, they work more.
Multiculturalism plagues homogenous nations as well. Pay attention to what's going on in Europe. They had awesome countries, but in their guilt over colonialism they opened the floodgates and let in a horde of third worlders.
>>37
get relax.
American calture comes from Europe. but Japan had isolated even from Korea and China if you exept a bit of transportation.
we will see their is the other world.
just for example
>>24
this AA is about Kotatsu.
Kotatu is a low table and Japanese are sit on the floor not chairs.
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anyway the world has loads of people and culture.
it means we can find some hints to solve problems from other coutries.
we have internet now and gather information to study is easier than past. acctually i studied English from Harry Potter and( I just couldn't wait the translation into Japapese.)
we don't need to depend just on schools.
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I didn't check my spells.
please ignore the mistakes.
>Low crime
This is a myth. The media is probably not showing all of the crimes committed in japan and they certainly dont show the real stats on young people selling theirselves and get raped in the process.
>>1 More like let's make hippies that break up good bands cough*Yoko Ono*cough
No hippies, yeah, that's true. They've got freeters instead. What would you prefer, reasonably predictable (if smelly) hippies, or freeters who'd be of any and all stripes?
I've seen hippies in Japan. They're still robots like all the other people though.
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Yes. Not all of the crimes are shown.
Especially, Korean crimes or at least names of the Korean criminals are hidden in massmedia.
That is because of the savage protests made by Korean residents in Japan.
Korean residents (much of them are Yakuzas) do not hesitate to use violence and are feared.
The government do not want to hide crimes.
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Fuck! you are obviously Korean! OLINK!!!
>Fap to japanese porn, drive german cars, drink mexican beer, and go to America's colleges.
I'm not going to contribute, but I just wanted to note something.
Do you really think the the West had on martial arts of their own? I mean, we had plenty, and furthermore, they're more suited to our body type than Asian arts are.
The West has the martial art of shooting the enemy with a gun.
No need to ponder. They are fucking clever and you know it.
>>50
The East has the - of discovering the gunpowder that fuels the gun.
We had fencing, boxing, and greco-roman wrestling. That's not the same as Karate, Judo, Jiujutsu, Kempo, Akido, Kendo, Iado, etc. That's about it. Beyond that, it was mostly shoot first.
But my thing is, it's still the education that makes Asia superior to the US. We just don't give a fuck about it.
We're essentially Hedonists -- if it's not fun we don't take it seriously. If it's hard, we quit. Hence, we'd rather argue about American Idol than Politics, Philosophy, or Science. Those arguements are hard work, argueing that Sanjaya is teh suxxor is easy.
Barbaric acts of Japanese emperor which prohibited a Korean strange custom.
(During Japanese annexation)
In Korea that "is only the tool that a woman bears a child" "a tool (a woman) must
not be a defective article". Thus, I let a man saying with "a kind man" violate a
daughter to prove that it "is this street, the body which can become pregnant" and let
I am in condition to have become pregnant and put a sedan chair. Korea governor-general's
office prohibited it so that a right of inheritance of a born child became a problem.
2. [a lick shit]
A folk remedy to judge that I have human feces, and physical condition of the person
improves if the taste is bitter, and physical condition turns worse if sweet. It was
forbidden after Japan-Korea merger to be in sanitary.
3. [Defecation on a street]
A figure of the common people playing the stool in the British traveler's diary
that visited Korea of last years of Rhea Dynasty is recorded. The Korea governor-general's
office gave an order to prohibit defecation on a street many times, but there was not the effect.
4. [A weak constitution dance]
Traditional arts laugh of the people whom I pretend to be a physically handicapped
person and a sick person exaggeratedly and make a physically handicapped person and a
sick person laughing stock, and watched it. It was prohibited from it being preferable
for a Japanese sense with Japan-Korea merger promptly, but revived after independence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svade36WH7k
5. [Topless Chima Chokoli]
According to the reputation, it is the Chima Chokoli which leta chest crop out.
Because wearing was forgiven only by the woman who delivered the eldest son who was
an inheritor, it was a pride for a Korean woman before Japanese merger.
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>>1 I consider the lack of hippies a deficiency, not an asset.
and anyway, even japan had riots in the 60s.
Scandals
Abe's government has been rocked by a series of scandals in recent months that have forced three ministers from his cabinet, two by resigning and one by suicide.
One cabinet minister resigned in December over a political spending scandal, the health minister barely kept his post after referring to women as "birth-giving machines", and the scandal-tainted farm minister hanged himself in May.
Then last week the defence minister stepped down over remarks that appeared to condone the 1945 US atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
And in the latest scandal Norihiko Akagi, Abe's agriculture minister, is under fire over allegations that he falsely booked millions of yen in spending for political offices that no longer exist.
Buoyed by Abe's plunging popularity the main opposition Democratic Party are touting the upper house poll as a step towards taking power.
"A huge political battle has begun that will become the first step towards greatly altering our country's politics," the party said in a statement as campaigning began on Thursday.
I'm happy 'cause now Minshuto's popular. doesn't happen every day. (^ ^)
Alex? Is that you? What the fuck are you doing here? Get the fuck back to 4cahn you /b/fuck.
You know, for all the talk of a defective American education system, I wonder how many of the posters here fit the stereotype of a brain-dead moron from a backwater American school.
Actually, this picture is more badass:
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