Proof that God Exists (615, permasaged)

253 Name: Shii : 2007-01-23 03:33 ID:ZPOgr5gT

> Can anyone make up their own law of logic such that it would be true?

Sure. Maybe there is a rambling, illogical nutcase somewhere out there who is actually perfectly right and we'll never know. That's just something you have to deal with in life.

> According to your worldview, what is good, what is bad, and why should anyone be good?

Good and bad are determined by the individual. You can say they are rewarded by society, or they benefit you, but that's not always the case. It is your opinion alone that makes YOU decide whether you've lived a virtuous life.

There's another disproof of your argument, by the way. Whether you've been good is your decision! Obviously since you know God so well, you can say whether things are good or bad and you'll be right. But in this everyday world, nobody can stop other people from making incorrect judgements. Let's imagine you, the God-fearing Christian, live in a society that rewards the greedy and corrupt, and punishes the charitable. Everyone thinks this is a good idea. When will they realize they are evil? Only when God casts his final and undeniable judgement! Until then, "good" and "evil" are words used only by those corrupt people, and maybe they will even write a dictionary defining them the wrong way. Nobody will know how wrong they are until God comes out of the clouds and actually tells them.

In this way you can see that "good" and "evil" are sort of different words when you use them than when I use them. In your view, "good" is a virtue that was defined by God. But my definition need not include God.

> Um www.proofthatgodexists.org (It's there).

If I skip the moral thing and agree that the laws of physics are unchanging we come to "The Proof that God exists is that without Him you couldn't prove anything." Uh... oh. I thought the word "God" came with a lot more baggage than just "something that makes science work." You need to work on that section. But I don't want to argue with you about that so let's ignore it.

> Yes, by God, whenever and however He pleases in accordance with his just nature.

So you're saying that God judges us here on Earth. Hey, that's a proof in itself! Forget all this dumb philosophical stuff, let's start talking about how God manifests himself to let us know which interpretation is correct.

> Hey, If anyone wants to stand before God saying: "I thought by 'love your neighbour,' you meant 'rape children,' that is up to them. I would not suggest it however.

Neither would I, but once again this presupposes that God exists!! We aren't even talking about that yet, we are still on Earth, wondering which interpretation to believe.

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