Proof that God Exists (615, permasaged)

340 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-01-25 01:01 ID:tEc397gB

my worldview?

onano, ergo sum (i masturbate, therefore i am)

logic is logical (if only from a linquistical point of view)

I observe, but I am aware that my observations are not accurate identifications of what I observe.

Using the laws of logic, I can make general statements about my observations. Using various of such statements I construct an idea about my environment. I can test these statements with new observations, to change my ideas about the world. I a aware that, due to faulty observations, my worldview is prone to error.

I am capable of creating hypothetical systems in my mind. Here I have the luxury to use not generalizations as building blocks, but axioms. These axioms are absolutely true within my hypothetical construct.

I don't believe that I can use the concept of absolute truth outside hypothetical constructs and in the world that I observe.

This all in reaction to >>333

>What is your worldview, and how do you account for the universal, abstract, invariant laws of logic apart from God?
>P.S. Don't hold your breath expecting anyone to answer this, I surely don't.

I think I have stated why I can't use the concept of 'absolute' on the real world within my worldview. I think it is fair to say that I can only think in my worldview. Until I expand my worldview - while keeping it coherent - I won't be able to use 'absolute' as a concept about the real world.

I recognize the possible existence of a God. However, without being able to observe this God, without being able to take notice of its existence, I cannot state anything about its existence. God will have to show himself to me.

Furthermore, I understand that I do not know the origin of the world, of myself, of the laws of logic. I do not know what they are made of either. Should I care? I don't know. I will only care once I know that the answers to these problems exist, and that they can be found by my own efforts. There is only one way this can happen: only by learning the answer will I believe there is an answer. A flawed option is to trust someone who I believe to have found such answers. I will not go that road.

perhaps I'm writing this as a tribute to the other people who showed interest in this thread, and who took effort in voicing their opinions. >>339, its not logic that convinces people, its the way you convey this logic. I advise you to read some books about logic if you want to continue this project. I advise you even more to take a course about logic in a college or university, because that generally helps more than books.

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