Proof that God Exists (615, permasaged)

80 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-01-21 03:35 ID:5nQkvT9+

>>Humans can define their own morals just fine.
> Including murderers, rapists, and molesters.

Yes. So? Are you so weak in your convictions that you need to appeal to an authority, lest your own stance be weakened simply because someone else holds an opposing view? Are you incapable of forming your own convictions and supporting them against others?

> Neither has a cohesive worldview with a revealed word from God.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster people have just as much of one as the christians have.

> So 2 things plus 2 things could equal 5 things. Alrighty then, if that’s what you want to believe.

Mathematics is not about "things". Mathematics is about axioms and logical deductions.

> Is it universally true that in the S3 group 2+2=1?

The axioms of the S3 group imply 2+2=1. This fact has no meaning outside of those axioms, and those axioms are arbitary, and can be considered neither "true" nor "false".

> Again, I would posit that the laws of physics are a part of God’s creation, rather than necessarily reflect His character. Even so, the speed of light is not a factor since God is also omnipresent.

You do not seem to understand fully the implications of relativity. The speed of light is not simply an arbitary speed limit. The universe is of such shape, for lack of a better word, that information cannot travel faster than the speed of light. Doing so would violate causality. If god could observe an event at one location, and the act on it at another, and the two points in space-time were separated in such a way that information would have to travel between them at a speed faster than that of light, this would create a paradox, where causality is broken. Causality is a basic law of logic. Can God break causality?

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