Is Gilgamesh real? (12)

1 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-12-29 15:04 ID:NsuDJ2ja

To start off on a debate since it is allowed, I am going to go with one of the main subjects that appear in most people's discussions. Is Gilgamesh real?

-No flaming or trolling. Emphasis on flaming. Keep the argument down to a mild level.

-Back up what you say. I know it's hard for this, but don't just say something like "Gilgamesh is fake". Tell WHY you think Gilgamesh is fake, and use science to back it up if you have to. If you want to say "Gilgamesh is real", then the same goes for you. If you are going to use sources, then make sure they are credible, not just from someones blog (unless they source on that, and THAT source is credible).

-Keep this as mature as possible. This is basically like repeating the first rule, but don't let your emotions/beliefs get in the way of your argument. It makes you and your whole case look childish.

Gilgamesh is real because there is scientific proof that he existed and did what he did.

2 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-12-29 20:25 ID:C3U2gtY6

but it coul've be only normal man, let's say kind of "overpowered", if you get the idea of what i mean, and he was later glorified because his actions were helpful for the village/town/city where he ruled

3 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-12-30 01:14 ID:x1e2kDDX

Well, technically Heroic Spirits exist outside reality, so the only time Gilgamesh can have been said to be 'real' was during his original lifespan many millenia ago and when he manifested as Archer during the 4th and 5th Grail Wars.

4 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-12-30 08:43 ID:c9CISMx/

Before discussing this topic, a quick read of might be useful.

It seems there little doubt that the king Gilgamesh referenced in the legend really existed, since independent historical records mention him and people associated with him.

This being said, it's also obvious that with time whatever historical facts associated with him were distorted and romanticised to create the Gilgamesh epic we now know (this is similar to the Arthurian, or Robin Hood legends).

So yes, Gilgamesh probably existed, but most of his epic is fantasy,...

5 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-12-30 09:11 ID:EAxh4tpQ

Gilgamesh was a dick. He just hung around Uruk getting baked and shouting at dogs.

6 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-12-30 18:31 ID:C3U2gtY6

well he was extra skilled at chopping down evil trees

7 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-12-30 21:30 ID:1pEjhnjN


8 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-12-31 07:01 ID:v/DcIcN3

Question remains: Is he [b]REAL[/b]?

9 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-12-31 07:19 ID:oeuuexrg


The man has a point.

10 Name: : 2007-12-31 20:15 ID:G6fyRByH

Do all things require scientific proof in order to be true?

11 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-01-04 17:21 ID:Ro61r+FW


I guess it depends on what you call "true",... Maybe you intend "real". An idea or meme can be unreal, even untrue, but still affect human actions, and thus have a real impact in the world.

For a long time people thought the earth was flat, and there was no point in trying to cross the Atlantic. It required the idea of a round earth to have people like columbus try to reach Asia by going West,...

12 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-02-08 16:26 ID:Heaven


Your sentence probably does, but don't quote me on it. In fact, just forget I said anything.

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