Subconscious decision making (looking for references) (4)

1 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2009-04-05 12:35 ID:b+cy9tFW

I recall having been told at some point that the decisions we make are measurable before we are aware we made them (think of peaks in event-related potential or something). Does anyone here have any references to articles and the like about this?
It's relevant to a paper I'm working on. I will need to know whether or not the source in question was full of shit, and if not, I'm going to need a reference.

2 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2009-04-11 17:19 ID:5rrxH0lb

http://www.google.com/search?q=predicting+human+decisions+before+we%27re+aware+of+them&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

there's also a court case with the first attempt at passing some sort of mind reading stuff as a legitimate source. for instance now, if we put you in an fMRI, we can identify when you're recalling a situation and when you're creating a situation (reacll=it happend, create=lying).

and we can see images your thinking (with practice), can see what choice you'll pick 10 seconds or something before you pick it.. many interesting things.

3 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2009-04-24 10:17 ID:b+cy9tFW

>>2
Thanks.

I've found a publication on this, by the way. This was pretty much exactly what I was looking for.
Siong Soon, Brass, Heinze & Haynes 2008: Unconscious determinants of free decisions in the human brain, Nature Neuroscience volume 11 number 5, pp. 543-545

My paper isn't going to rely on these findings being true, but they do make my somewhat intuitively obvious main question a lot more relevant by posing an objection to it.

4 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2009-05-04 12:58 ID:Heaven

> for instance now, if we put you in an fMRI, we can identify when you're recalling a situation and when you're creating a situation (reacll=it happend, create=lying).

the problem with that is that people who are likely to lie often create the situation ahead of time and then recall it later.

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