"Folding@Home is a distributed computing project which studies protein folding, misfolding, aggregation, and related diseases. We use novel computational methods and large scale distributed computing, to simulate timescales thousands to millions of times longer than previously achieved. This has allowed us to simulate folding for the first time, and to now direct our approach to examine folding related disease."
English translation: Hay guys, run our screen saver and help cure nasty shit like Alzheimer's. Also compare your internet penis size with other communities.
Team 4-ch: http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=42861
Our forefathers: http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=162
4chan/world4ch lacks a team (unless it's named something less then obvious), someone can post there if they want.
Start folding, and maybe someday W.T.Snacks will not be filled with AIDS.
HT: Interesting. Unfortunately, the forums seem to be swamped by only-somewhat-coherent people who are aggressively pursuing the most points-per-day and producing conspiracy theories about why people are trying to stop them. Yeesh, I just fire it up and tell it how I would like it to work.
I can definitely see why HT would be slower though. The way it works at the moment, it "looks" like 2x1.5GHz CPUs, when it's really a 1x3GHz. HT will be slower due to context switching between the two. I'll try turning HT off, and if XP doesn't puke at the sudden loss of a CPU, I'll leave it that way.
Sixth: I swear I haven't built another PC recently! Uguu~
RAM: Yeah, but did you receive them with new computers recently? My point was "Only 256 RAM (and in 2x128 sticks, no less!) in a new OEM machine? What a jip!".
Power bill: Well, realistically, I don't expect they actually use that much power at all. New CPUs are measured by tech report sites, and figures indicate a couple hundred watts at the wall socket for the system case. Mine are nowehre near that. They're specifically "servers on a shoestring", so they're not top of the line CPUs. They're on microATX motherboards, and not a lot of peripherals being powered at all. They all run headless, so there's no CRT to turn power into heat. I'd hazard a guess that they're comparable to running a few light globes.
>a guess that they're comparable to running a few light globes.
Unlike my mac mini here, which would sit on no more than 20W idle. Add that with my monitor which sits at 40W idle, and my computer is essentially chewing one single lightbulb's power. Interesting, because all the bulbs in my house are at least 75W.
>>75-76
How would you go about measuring the actual power consumption of your computers?
>>77
I own a fancy-pants UPS which tells me how much total it's drawing.
>>76
I too could leave all my machines idle and they'd likely draw very little power as well, but that's a moot point. The reason I'm running Folding is because they'd otherwise be sitting there idle cycling (they're servers, I need them running).
I'm talking about a few lightbulbs for all the machines in total, too.
As for measuring power consumption, you can get devices called clamp meters that measure the current flow through a wire with an inductance coil. It's basically a (non-contact) loop of wire that senses electric field strength in the wire. You then multiply the current by the voltage (240V here in Australia) and you have the power consumption in watts. Or, as >>78 suggests, your UPS can tell you. :) Clamp meters (and other dedicated tools for power readings) are pretty expensive.
There's one thing all computers are really good at: space heaters. Just think: you're heating your house, but you get CPU cycles too!
We should replace all central furnaces with big-ass CPUs post-haste.
I was pondering the possibility earlier today, while sitting in a friend's flat, with their 7ft-tall rack cabinet open.
Outside temperature: 8 degrees celcius
Inside temperature: 20 degrees celcius
I like this idea. I can run my 2000 watt blower heater. Or, I could run about 20 Pentium4 boxen. Can you imagine the amount of folding that could do!?
Pity my machines don't heat the house up much. My house is spacious, and the machines are far apart.
Shirayuki: Hanging under my floorboards
Karen: Loungeroom
Ichigo: Bedroom, under my desk.
It'll never work. :(
One problem with CPUs is that the fans are noisy. If you can't go the central-heating route (which would be expensive, alas), you can always go the nutcase nouveau geek artist route:
Cover one entire wall with fanless ARM chips. Or just do the whole room.
As an added bonus you can sell cycles to your local university to somewhat defray the large amount of money you just paid. You might also be able to find a few biologists who want to test the effects of electromagnetic fields on their rats.
Haha, now that's a novel idea.
"This just in, wallpaper out, silicon is IN, folks!"
(CPU fans need not be noisy. Most stock heatsink fans aren't too bad, especially the last P4 one I picked up a while ago, IMO. And you can always get aftermarket quiet fans/passive heatsinks.)
Yeah, they don't need to be loud, but a few hundred fans tends to add up. On the other hand, they also really help with air flow.
It'd probably be cheaper to get some large fans at the end of the rows to circulate air in the room. For added alpha-geekiness, add neon lighting to the fan.
Or do it Blade Runner style: one huge man-sized fan at the end of the room venting the heat to the rest of the house. Leave the room dark, add some smoke machines, and backlight the big-ass fan.
I'm sure the lab rats will appreciate the awesomeness of it.
Hell yeah, I'd go for that.
>>84
hmm... i already have a big-ass fan and a bunch of old processors (and can get more free)... and i can get smoke machines really cheap... i'm so going to do this and probably post pictures when i finish it (probably in a few years...)
60000 GET!
Top 2000 GET!
checking back, we 100000got while no one was looking and are approaching 200000get and top 1000 get
GJ!
also: damn furinkan is a beast
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=47633
HAHA, team 4chan has some work to do.
A 4chan has appeared!
1068 COMETH
been using:
1.6GHz turion
733MHz pentium 3
just added:
2.8GHz pentium 4
> Team Ranking: 1040 of 42718
still not in the top 1000?
Thanks for aging, I've been forgetting to run this for a couple days
Heh, I forgot all about this, eventhough I said I would join in. Thanks for aging.
Main: Athlon 64 3200+
Also: (2) 833 MHz Pentium 3s.
some interesting observations... http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=osstats
Windows MFLOPS/Active CPU: 949.038
Mac OS X MFLOPS/Active CPU: 571.755
Linux MFLOPS/Active CPU: 1207.912
Weird how nobody using anything other than Windows, MacOS X, or Linux is participating. You'd expect at least a few BeOS, BSD, etc. users in there.
covertly got 100
Ya' know, it's sort of sad how we're not even #1000, and some site called "Toon Town Central" is #99.
Toon Town is an awesome game, I know a guy that is a programmer for it. Although, having to have a friend code to talk is annoying, the game is designed with the kiddie in mind.. not the college students that beta tested it.
age
age for the road to 300,000 GET and TOP 1000 GET
are we in the top 1000 or not?
http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=42861 says 1005, but http://fah-web.stanford.edu/teamstats/team42861.html says 993...
which one is right?
> Team rank: 993
That's probably more accurate. The other one includes aggregate teams.
Ugh... we're falling behind.
it's not my fault
well i suppose it is for buying a mac mini
sorry
There aint nothing wrong with a mac mini, for as long as its participating.
age because that stupid team 4chan is catching up to us (￣ー￣)
3rd place GET!
but furinkan still has almost 4.5 times my score... orz
I'd help, but all my processors are currently occupied with stuff from wcg... though I'll probably change that when I have time since my team's pretty much dead.
4chan beat us....guess it was inevitable, since they have such a large userbase compared to us.
o(〃＾▽＾〃)oあははっ♪
gonna fold some proteins! gonna foooooooooooooooold
Top10 GET! Yay... though we're still falling -.-
Ive been doing the folding@home stuff for 4chan for quite awhile now.
4chan's team link:
http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=47633
4-Ch's page seems a bit less then 4chans, but i don't know the uptime for both teams. 2-ch's page has a lot of what seems to be ppl that have started, then got bored of it.
is there a way to change teams and keep your score? it seems that 4chan is dead and full of newbs and so forth now-a days. my folding computer is an old 933 p3 with 512 pc133 and it just runs a dchub and such.
> is there a way to change teams and keep your score?
there's no way to take your points away from 4chan's team and give them to 4-ch's if that's what you're asking.
I've been on 4-ch now since the 9th and i am still showing up on 4chans team. i changed the team # on the client and restarted it to.
You should show up on 4-ch's page when you finish a work unit.
its been since the 9th and the pos hasnt finished one yet. keeps saying 4hrs till finish..
not quite sure what to make of those lines...
the "trend line" on that graph doesn't look good ,_,
I recently made it onto the top 5000 list for the default team. I'm working on my 195th WU right now. I joined the project after
my cousin died of cancer at age 24 in 2005.
Let's see if we can turn the trend line around then.
well my little box is chugging away. already did 3 units. they seem to stick me with huge work loads...
Guys, we're moving up!
I can't use my own processor anymore, but please join the team and get the jump on the hideously named <3vil-g33ks>!
Idle time going to f@h.
LETS CURE SOME BOMBS
my little box is still chugging away. i had a hell of a big unit. 20000 pieces or something. anyhow i plan to leave it go for as long as possible. mother had lymphoma/luchemia and every bit helps.
Just joined. Core0 is on 103750 of 125000, core1 is on step 110000 of 250000. Hopefully one of those will be done by tomorrow or Monday so I'll have some numbers to add to the team.
jumps on bandwagon
I just got F@H and joined the team. Happy folding, guys.
How often is the program supposed to update the status? I just started, and it's been saying "Completed 0 out of 5000000 steps (0)" for ten minutes now.
>>133
It will update when you complete a work unit. (If you haven't finished any, your stats will not show up on the site yet). It will tell you when it has completed 1% of that WU (50,000 steps). Also, what did you do to get a work unit that big? Anything, or just pure luck?
>>134
I just used the default configuration, apart from username and group. So I guess it was pure luck - if you can call it that.
I'm doing this on my home server box which is an old PowerMac with a 500MHz G4 processor, so it's not exactly a top-of-the-line machine by today's standards, and I hope it'll be sufficient to finish the WU before it expires. Still at "0 steps".
>>135 It will just take time. Though, my Athlon64 takes about 3 days for a WU of 250000 steps (1/20th the size of your WU). Though that is with it having to constantly yield to me gaming, and AV scans.
Anyone else find themselves unable to upload to F@H? I can get new work, but my finished WUs aren't uploading.
I'm in.
>>97
updated MFLOPS/Active CPU:
Windows: 953.456
Mac OS X/PPC: 765.624
Mac OS X/Intel: 3201.708
Linux: 1707.140
GPU: 59506.531
PS3: 18086.720
i'm thinking maybe i should buy a couple X1900s and throw windows xp on the old 500MHz machine that i'm not using...
We are now on top of 3vil-n3rds by 80+ ranks, but we're not yet in the top 1000 and we're losing ground. So, keep cranking out those units!
I'll be folding again once Apple releases the new iMac, and I can upgrade to a computer where running any intensive application doesn't risk kernel panics. Come on, you bastards!
age
age
Just overclocked to 3.04ghz for the sake of the project!
(∩ﾟДﾟ)∩ age!!
fold@home is out.
http://fold.it/ is teh winrar
>>152
It's far more efficient to exploit the puzzle solving ability of humans to tell the computer a correct solution rather than having the computer check every possible solution. Every person that gets success while playing this game will greatly contribute to this whole effort.
What if this is all bullshit?
I mean, with all the computing power that is out there, especially supercomputing clusters - if this could plausibly offer a solution wouldn't more people be behind it?
>>154 O_o there are many people behind it. but ofcourse it could be really all bs. but who cares. you can't find out if you don't try.
bumping because squeeks should make it official and post about it in the news
Fuck Sony, FUCK EM!!