> Nobody thinks that outside of your head. Please don't insult our intelligence with such utterly ridiculous strawman arguments. Seriously.
You've being naive. People do think this. Seriously. What do you expect this to do?
f = file("in")
shutil.copyfile(f, out)> We are saying that it is much more work than in a language designed to handle this properly.
And I am pointing out that you're wrong on both counts, and to make matters worse no language exists that handles it properly.
> Find a single real programmer who agrees with you on that, and perhaps I will take you seriously.
No you won't. Perhaps you live in a fantasy world where unicode is something everyone does the same way (they don't), and you reject a language that doesn't have explicit support for unicode because "everyone else does" but then you admit that unicode is hard, and that nobody is doing it right yet.
> It may not be solved, but you're saying we should stop even trying to solve it, and just suffer on with the solutions we used to have, which were much, much worse.
No, I'm not. I started by saying don't reject arc because it doesn't have unicode support because it doesn't need unicode support. Unicode support is completely broken WRT the web anyway. I'm saying nobody's got it right so quit acting like the expectation is normal. Your expectation for unicode support is broken and brain-damaged because it isn't being fulfilled by any language you or anyone else here has brought up.
FWIW, I think languages could have useful unicode support if they bothered to look at how people fuck up unicode support and explicitly target that. I'm convinced that the reason nobody has decent unicode support is that it's hard, and I'm objecting to the idea that it's easy and that what every language has is a good thing.
> Pretty much everybody would much rather have those problems than suffer under the horrible inflexibility you seem to think is preferable.
Those people are idiots then, or they've never given it any serious thought. I suspect more of the latter looking at this thread "oh python has unicode support xxx yyy" and that's the end of it.