In this thread you talk to others or just yourself.
Anything that's on your mind is okay as a topic.
Have fun & don't shit up this thread! ヽ(´ー｀)ノ
I slept on my arm, it was completely limb and just hung from my body, I couldn't move it for the first few seconds, it was funny.
I did that once too (arm under the head). I was 15 at the time.
When I woke up I couldn't feel a thing. Needless to say, that was a scary few seconds. I thought I'd killed it or something.
Sometimes, when I am really tired, I lose my sense of perspective. Literally. I no longer have any idea how big things are. I'll be browsing the internet on my two-meter monitor that's sitting across the room, using my two-milliter mouse with my five-meter long arm.
It's great fun, I wish it would happen more often.
Something similiar used to happen to me when I was younger.
Sometimes, when I'd close my eyes at night and was just starting to dream, the visions would unexpectedly become very large, as if they were shoved into my inner eye.
> my arm, it was completely limb
tee hee.
I'm not a native speaker! I meant "numb"!
I didn't really mean to mock the mistake, it was just an interesting substitution. A limb that was limp and numb?
I suck with names and faces.
I'm the kind of guy who wouldn't recognize one of my teachers if I bumped into them outside of class.
Me too. I forgot your name already.
Well i have a habbit of messing up anems, don't know why, but people take real offense to that.
>>23
Well, it should be fine as long as you don't call your girlfriend by another name during sex ^^; or anywhere else, for that matter
>>24
I did call an ex of mine the name of another ex several times.
Boy, I'll never hear the end of that, even now.
Last night I watched a documentary about the psychological/philosophical/semiotical differences between the west and the far east.
One hypothesis that some scholars from both hemispheres proposed was that westerners were more likely to clearly seperate different parts of reality (most notably evil & good) and were more affirmative of light, hope, etc.; while the Japanese were more likely to accept the yin (the dark part of yin/yang duality) and to perceive reality as something that has to be unified somehow.
Also, they interviewed some convicted Japanese canibal who was released from jail but who expressed his wish to die, as him being alive forced him to constantly be reminded of his guilt of killing (the woman he ate). He was also filmed meeting a young (and really pretty) woman who had a sadism/torture/death fetish. She told a story about how she dug out an animal corpse she had buried with a friend a few days before (when she was very little), then sticking her hand in the warm, decaying and maggot infested body and how she felt total ecstasy from that. She also said that inflicting pain on men, cutting them with razors, drinking their blood, etc. were giving her exceeding levels of lust.
Later, both of them were filmed in an apparment, talking about cannibalism. The canibal said he'd like to be eaten by the girl, and how he dreamt of that. The girl said she thought eating the one you love and be eaten by the one you love would be a very intimate experience and that she'd like to die that way.
Another notable thing was the Ajase complex, as proposed by Kosawa, a Japanese student of Freud. They talked a lot about different conceptions of motherhood in east & west.
I also liked the part where somebody mentioned that males were mostly striving for "small perfections" by excluding everything perceived as imperfect and how that limits males typically, while females are more capable of accepting and incorporating more parts of reality, but as they are also able to fail, they usually end up in much bigger heaps of confusion if they do.
Did they say anything about those who divide people into groups and make sweeping generalizations about them?
>>27
I was waiting for that comment. It's a typical fallacy, as saying you cannot make general statements about hypothetical groups of people essentially implies that you cannot say anything about any kind of people, as people are already a generalized group (which means that generalized statements about them are not automatically incorrect) - so the only way to weasel yourself out of that would be to say that groups of people (e.g. "the Japanese", etc.) don't exist.
While that could be a legitimate statement in some sorts of discourse, it's very impractical.
> One hypothesis that some scholars from both hemispheres proposed was that westerners were more likely to clearly seperate different parts of reality (most notably evil & good) and were more affirmative of light, hope, etc.; while the Japanese were more likely to accept the yin (the dark part of yin/yang duality) and to perceive reality as something that has to be unified somehow.
This is not the stupidest thing I've ever heard a psychologist say, but goddamn is it up there.
Um, it's based totally in fantasy and connects vague "Oriental" mysticism to individual Japanese people with barely even the pretense of a post hoc ergo propter hoc. Do psychologists have a license to make up unadulterated bullshit these days?
I'm so dismayed. Every year, it is the same routine. I say to myself, "This year, I will not procrastinate! I will take my subjects and my teachers seriously!". I think the real problem with the Ontario Public School system is that the teachers are lax, lazy, and generally uncaring, whilst the subject material is redundant and sometimes irrelevant.
Have you ever been to summer school? In there, they pack ~4 months of regular work into just 2-3 weeks! I was able to learn all the topics while my work habits were still good. In the semester system, it takes 1~2 months for them to deteriorate and for me to begin to hate the teacher, the course, the world.
>I'm so dismayed. Every year, it is the same routine. I say to myself, "This year, I will not procrastinate! I will take my subjects and my teachers seriously!"
I've been singing that tune for years. I should actually be studying right now, I have a test tomorrow.
>>29,31 said pretty much what I was thinking, without feeling the need to be a smartass about it like me. It's not that you can't make statements about groups (I'm not going to argue against "on average, women bear children more often than men"), it's that all such statements are not created equal, and these particular ones were pretty lacking in any sort of insight not based in silly predjudices.
>>31
Fantasy shmantasy. It sounds reasonable to me, what with Judeo-christianity influencing the west for thousands of years and Buddhism-shintoism influencing the east for thousands of years. Two very different philosophies, making for different mindsets over the ages with the people going through their individual assimilation processes. While the religions mentioned were never too homogenous, I think it's ignorant to dismiss any reference to their influence as "vague".
And that's just one (possible) explanation for the correctness of the hypothesis (which of course may be wrong for some individual cases).
I also hold the belief that the general, very un-individual developments dozens of generations before us have gone through have a huge impact on our individual existence, whether we like it or not. There's been some arguments for that in this thread: http://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1124958215
>>34
What do you mean with "all such statements are not created equal"?
Number 1 is pretty easy to confirm as holding true, and is even useful for extrapolating from groups down to individuals. Number 2 is vague and actually makes no statements that are supported by any kind of evidence, or testable any meaningful way. It also smacks of the "orientals are mystical beings living in harmony with the world" new-age fallacy. All it does is to play into our preconceptions, and glorifies the Other, letting us feel good about ourself as modern world citizens who appreciate the wisdom of Other Cultures.
All this while in actuality, you can take an average Japanese person and an average Westerner, and find that beyond language and some social mores, there's hardly any difference. The difference between any two individuals picked out of either group is likely to be far, far larger.
So while there is some difference in outlook, on average, it's most likely far less than people who talk about unifying yin and yang would think, and even that difference is largely overwhelmed by the difference between indivduals, making any insights you gain this way largely useless.
>>35
I'm getting a whiff of a troll, but for now I'll assume good faith.
Shintoism is only part of Japan. Buddhism is from India which is not part of that amorphous CJK blob you refer to as "the East". Neither religion has anything to do with a yin-yang, which is a concept native to Chinese traditional religion and is known in Japan only in the context of martial arts. See also >>36
> Shintoism is only part of Japan. Buddhism is from India which is not part of that amorphous CJK blob you refer to as "the East".
Religions:
observe both Shinto and Buddhist 84%,
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ja.html
And yes, India is part of the eastern hemisphere commonly refered to as "the East", whether you like that or not.
Also, yin-yang is not "a concept native to Chinese traditional religion" but an integral part of Taoism, a philosophy that originated in China thousands of years ago but since then has transmutated throughout all of Asia.
> statements that are supported by any kind of evidence, or testable any meaningful way
I think you are missing the point. This wasn't about some wapanese making up facts as they see fit but studied people from both Japan and western countries coming to the same conclusions as they were trying to describe and explain the differences in different mindsets, the latter working slightly different than looking for evidence of ovaries or what have you.
I understand that trying to do that will lead to generalized assertions and assumptions. That does not, however, make them neccessarily untrue, it doesn't even make them likely to be untrue. And extrapoling from historically factual ideologies like religions and philosophies seems a better course than extrapoling from climate & geography, as was usual code of discourse when talking about the mindsets of foreign countries in 17-18th century western humanities.
This isn't about gloryfying anything or some dweebs paraphrasing popular prejudices for the hell of it. The people who were interviewed had decades of scholarly as well as practical experience with lots and lots of actual people.
> All this while in actuality, you can take an average Japanese person and an average Westerner, and find that beyond language and some social mores, there's hardly any difference.
Perhaps, I'd still assert that these little differences can be subsumed under "general differences between generally different mindsets" which is what I've been trying to say all along, though.
> The difference between any two individuals picked out of either group is likely to be far, far larger.
That kind of depends on what you are taking into your observation, doesn't it? Which would be a prejudice in method, but meh...
The difference between any two individuals picked out of either group is likely to be far, far larger.
> The people who were interviewed had decades of scholarly as well as practical experience with lots and lots of actual people.
Ever heard of argument from authority?
> Perhaps, I'd still assert that these little differences can be subsumed under "general differences between generally different mindsets" which is what I've been trying to say all along, though.
"Differences between mindsets" are things like not bothering deliquent hikikomori kids who stay in their rooms, or making a bigger deal about the suicide rate than about violence and sex on TV. These are the sorts of decisions which make up a culture. You may note that none of this has to do with "yin-yang" gibberish which can be read into any damn thing and which I still assert has never been popular in Japan.
Furthermore, "mindsets" do not determine a higher rate of cannibalism, which has probably never been sanctioned in any society. That makes your TV doctor even more outrageous.
> Ever heard of argument from authority?
Did, but I don't hold the belief that arguing from authority automatically provides falsity or correctness of an assertion. Also, it's not the case here. I merely wanted to point out that there weren't just your average idiots. But I guess it doesn't matter anyway.
And the cannibalism bit wasn't directly connected to anything the "TV doctor" (what) said. It was more of a correlating piece of documentary in the bigger picture (about the different mindsets which included questions like "Why don't Japanese moms kiss their children?" (<- WARNING! GENERALIZED STATEMENT) or "Why are Japanese people so obsessed with cleanliness?").
They also had various bits of Soviet spionage & encryption business, western dominatrix stuff and some Roland Barthes for good measure.
Reminds me of the Reader's Digest article circa 1950, answering questions like "Why are women so obsessed with cleanliness?"
I guess they never met my mom.
I hate these people that are messing up this thread with their ranty non-rants! Grr! They really grind my gears! On the internet no one ever follows the rules or guidelines!
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I'm so hungover ... I whould rant about it more if I could; feel too sick. I'm going back to bed
how do I clean puke out of carpet?
>how do I clean puke out of carpet?
Go to the sea and clean it with brushes, pine soap and seawater! Yaarrgghhh bad-ass rug cleaning!
I am going to vote for the APPD today! ヽ(´ー｀)ノ
Damn, I couldn't....
After starting the next phase of my workout routine, my legs are very sore! ヽ(｀A´)ノ
How hard does it have to be to begin the project? It's been enough of who does what, what to do, how to do it -- I just want to start coding.
I feel like I've taken on way too much work.
After a few weeks, I've gotten better at understanding my professor who is Chinese. Thank goodness!
>>54
How so?
He speaks English fine, but his accent is rather pronounced. At first, listening and understanding what he was saying took some effort, but it's becoming easier.
heh, I had a teacher like that last semester. Took me a few weeks as well.
God, I wish people would turn off the sound on their computers in this classroom.
Speaking of computer sounds, my laptop's fan is so loud that i'm embarassed to use it during a class, even though that's what I bought it for!
RE: Computer sounds
My computer is making stupid BEEPs whenever I regulate the main volume control (XP Pro). I think it's the main board and I have no idea how to turn it off (already checked the BIOS). It's really annoying, HALP!
My laptop is starting to look kinda ghetto. It's got scratches all over the case, some of the rubber pads are missing from the bottom, and the fit on some of the frame is weird since I am not qualified to do laptop repair (lol). I'd like to get a new one, but I can't justify spending $1000+ on a computer when I have one that works.
>>61
Mine's that way too, except I think it's cool looking. Something about the run-down look on all my electronic equipment just does it for me.
my laptop = antique
So guys, I was bored and I clicked on the "oekaki SQL" board on futaba for fun.
Out of a sense of randomness, I clicked "paint" and drew a picture of Osaka eating out Chiyo.
I came back this evening and found a japanese nanashi had commented on it. He said (translated), "Chiyo-chan, yah cunt is soooo stinky".
Previously, I felt that it was a major accomplishment for a Japanese person to respond to my contributions. Now, I just feel like I should write more coherent things.
>>64
You just reminded me to check out their oekaki boards again. Thanks!
Anyone want to take my Operations Management exam for me?
>>66
No problem, but you can keep the rest of your life that I'll screw up by failing the test.
Or maybe failing the test will lead to you being happy for the rest of your life. Who knows?
It... could be, I guess. Maybe my failure is destiny. :|
Actually, I think the test went pretty well. Just one problem I wasn't sure how to work.
The light fitting in my bedroom just broke. I guess I'll be living in the dark for a while.
I'm sure there's probably some profound lesson to be learned in that. :)
Is ID:Xqpt7beU the same as ID:ewlgnNn4?
>>73
Well, GJ!
today was awesome! No work. I woke up at 11am and headed off downtown to meet a japanese friend of mine! We studied both japanese and english for little while. Then she had to go, so I went off to the chinese place and got very cheap food!
Sweet & Sour Chicken, 2 Liter of Pepsi, Rice, Eggroll, Soup! $4. And then I went off to the anime store and picked up a 1/100 RX-78 NT-1, I''s Volume 3, and a pretty cool Sakura (of Sakura Taisen) figure! I then went across the street to the arcade, played DDR, House of the Dead, Capcom Vs. SNK 2, and King of Fighters 2003. I headed home and when I got there, began building my model. Then I watched Suna Bouzu. After this I ordered chinese again since it was so great, sat back, and played Tales of Symphonia into the night, before getting online and posting on my favorite message boards/bbs and talking to my girlfriend.
For me, today has been the perfect day. A much needed one in the shitty amount of shit that's been happening lately, too!
I need more days like that. :( Not that I really have anything to complain about, mind you...
>>76
You are living the otaku dream life. Make tomorrow just as good.
>>76-78
how such a simple day can be so perfect~.
it all sounds so easy, this otaku dream life. the hobbies are extremly simple to do and the materials are within arms reach. money is nice but nowadays there are ways to get by on just $50 spare dollars a week and still be able to enjoy anime and games quite a lot. All that's required is an apartment and a computer.
Why, though, can an otaku only have a day like this once every few weeks? Such easy things should be easily done, but not when you want to do them.
I can't stand this shit. My girlfriend keeps telling other guys she loves them and shit like that. Ugh, it makes me so jealous! I'm the kind of guy that needs a ton of affection and love from my girlfriend, not her telling other guys she loves them, when I rarely ever get to hear this myself. sigh~.
I really do get extremly jealous very easily. I don't get mad over it, just very depressed. it sucks. Oh well.
>>80
Does she know how you feel? If not then maybe you need to tell her.
If she does know, then she's being shitty to you on purpose. Maybe you like that somehow, though.
>>80, do you have some sort of 'open-ended' type of relationship going on? Or is it just 'open-ended' on her side or something?
Man, sad thing is I'd kill for something like that, even... orz
>>82
You'll be much more likely to kill yourself once you're in something like that. How anybody could love somebody and then figuratively or literally watch that somebody fuck some scumbag in front of you I will never understand...
there is a guy outside my room singing "maiyahi, maiyahu, maiyaho, maiyahaha"
killkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkill
Beware. I hunger.
How do I reply to messages?
>>84 is (c) avex/wata
>>90
Meant to sage. I suck.
I met a girl yesterday and she liked me.
This is going on the list of the most important events of my life.
I pretty much gave up on meeting girls. I am not going through all that trouble again, at least not in the near future.
Just go to parties and cons and you'll find girls at random. The kind that like American otaku are one in a hundred thousand, and they might not live nearby, but that's what LiveJournal is for. Also, advertise your lack of social skills with a 4-ch T-shirt. This is the sum of my advice.
>>95 knows his snide remarks very well.
On the way to school today, in-between tranferring buses, a girl who went to the same CC as I did and came from the same city (which generally means shes usually on the bus with me for the whole trip) came over to ask a question, and I responded.
After that, she walked away for a bit and I put my headphones on to listen to M-flo on my NetMD.
She came back and stood around for a while like she wanted to talk, but after me not saying anything (or taking off my headphones) she just walked away.
I probably would have tried harder if she was attractive but, oh well.
General ranting.. Hate people when they use the >> links for posts that are like 20 posts away... use fricking > thats easier to follow.
>>98
Yeah, that's a bit impractical.
Could be made more convenient with this gadget which has not been invented yet: http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1104757670
PS: Don't hate!
100get.
Wait... that was kind of anticlimactic... :(
>>100
Your ID kind of reads "loser UP"
Wow, I didn't notice at first. Why can't I get cool IDs for the ID thread?
My room was looking kind of empty, so I went and got a rug from the basement. I think it really ties the room together.
I think I learned somthing today.
Don't drink coffee in an effort to stay up because you didn't get any sleep the previous night when you have a programming assignment due in three hours, can probably pull it off in one, and have hardly ever drank coffee before.
I was so hyper I couldn't focus on getting one line done, haha.
I want a 4-ch browser!
I just bought Katamari Damacy and Disgaea.
Watch my grades plummet!
>>106
Spend even more time on idle talk, give the Katamari thread some love:
http://4-ch.net/games/kareha.pl/1127813286
>I probably would have tried harder if she was attractive but, oh well.
Human contact is human contact.
And human contact is taboo.
Listening to your gay friend talk about his love life is... odd.
Uh... what the hell?
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