Densha Otoko isn't just a TV-show! Nothing wrong with taking some inspiration from something that happened!
Allthough, the TV-show added a bit more juice to it, but you get the point.
Okay, giving it the benefit of the doubt that it really did happen (I'm one of those who thinks it was a sham from the start, frankly), it was a one-in-a-million occurrence. Trying to take "inspiration" from it will get you nowhere. You might as well take inspiration from someone struck by lightning.
>>2
What?
There's nothing wrong with getting inspiration from Densha. Why do you think so many people like it? Because they can relate to the main character so very well. He even has the same hobbies and problems as lots of us do. But, he's overcome his problems, the ones that we can't, and found a really sweet girl to be with. While I think this thread is stupid, I still think it's very possible to gain courage from Densha - in fact, I've done it a few times to be honest, when bringing up more touchy subjects with my girlfriend :P.
DIfferent things inspire different people. I admit that I was inspired from this show. /shrug
Although, I didn't like the whole "it was just a little lie" "sub"plot in the TV show.
Like Densha was, my "age = years without a girlfriend" and I'm way older then him. For many reasons I expect to die without ever having a girlfriend. I've come to be okay with that. Then I watched the Densha Otoko tv show and read the thread. Now that part of me that says, "I wish I had a girlfriend" came back. It's time for my rational self to smash that feeling down again.
Okay, let me elaborate on what I said in >>2 a bit. Fine, you can be inspired to build up your confidence and find the love of your life or whatever by Densha Otoko, but you should not expect what happened in the show to happen to you. Opportunities to meet members of your preferred gender abound, but do not expect for one to just fall into your arms like that, especially if you're as dorky and unattractive as Densha and the other person is as pretty and rich as Hermes. So I guess it's okay to be "inspired" by it, but spending the rest of your life waiting for something like that to happen to you is folly.
>>8
Of course, I don't think anyone is just sitting around waiting, I think they're just wishing and hoping, and being able to more courages things from the show. Honestly, people don't have a chance anyway or are just using densha for their personal inspiration.
I believe everyone has a chance for everything in his life, but will one have courage enough to get what one wants? It depends on how much effort that you would take or put in to do it. It depends on the worthwhile result that one values and longs for. It depends on oneself.
After reading (some of -- I have to read them in English, and thus must wait for the translation) the original Densha Otoko thread, I think something a lot of people fail to realize is that Hermes had her sights set on Densha from the beginning.
Yes, women can develop crushes too, guys. And while most Japanese women want a guy who is rich, handsome, or both, what women are really keyed on is Good Provider Behaviors. Densha having the stones to stand up to the guy on the train impressed her; their relationship being a success was mostly him failing to screw it up, with the aid of the nichanners.
I certainly concede that it could be a hoax, but if you take the viewpoint that she was pursuing him, the whole thing is a hell of a lot more plausible.
Pursuing him in that feminine "lead him on but let him think he's the one pursuing" manner?
You also have to remember that in Japanese culture, if you are 25 and still not in a serious relationship / married, you are considered an old maid. That could also have been part of the equation.
>Yes. My own wife attempted that, but since I'm too oblivious to pick up on it, she finally got blatant.
Let that be a lesson to the rest of you girls.
>>15
Pfft. Been there done that. In spite of hating to initiate things that can go as horribly wrong as relationships, i've initiated all the ones i've ever had. In a blatant manner.
Which also applies to the one with my now husband.
No, I'm not >>14 's wife.
There are more females out there that pursued their guys than just her.
One in a million occurence... isn't that something? Isn't that what makes it dramatic?
That's why people are drawn to this drama so much... I never liked drama but this is probably the best one I've ever watched.
The world needs more women like you.
I suck at getting hints (I've been told this by friends) and have missed out on quite a few opportunities because I usually think that there's no way in hell OO-san would like me.
obbIlUm0: Yeah, trying to read women is very dificult for us akward guys like Densha Otoko.
The one I am currently with had a think for me since I came accross her at a Halloween gathering at the community college and she freaked out since I noticed her Inu Yasha plush while blurting out "INU YASHA!"
This was in 2002 and I dressed up as Tommy Vercetti from Grand Theft Auto Vice City.
Even thought she was a larger woman, she looked kind of cute but didn't think about her much.
In a few months, I saw her again but I was hanging out with another female since I was getting desperate to be a relationship since I thought us nitta have terible luck with women and any old nice female is better than none. She (the girl I was hanging out with) tried to introduce me to somebody she knew and she showed me her friend to me one day near the end of the community college semester.
I noticed that there was a cutish girl sitting accross the girl I was hanging out with and I paid attention to what she was saying. We talked about anime for a good bit and I realized that I want to go out with her but I do not want to upset the person I was trying to court with at the time. Let's say that Christmas has past and not much went on except the exchange of emails.
I saw the anime fan girl in January and I realized that I have a chance to date her but I am not sure if she is interested. I decided to ask her out on a date on the 10th of feburary but school was snowed out so the next day was the 14th.
To make a long story short, we had Chinese, spoiled her with some PSone games, and she had her first kiss. Man that was great memories and we shared more until I moved last year. I still try to meet up with her face to face but with my work and her school, things are preaty bad at the moment.
I miss her so badly despite we talk to each other online every day. I read that she lost some weight too. I just hope not too much.
Lesson for us guys, we need to notice what women are thinking and not just by acting. That's why I clearly stated my intentions in dating my current girlfriend. I made it official during the first date by introducing her at a game store as my girlfriend. Man she was shocked but in a good way.
I just hope there is a happy ending to this story.
BTW
Yes I do own 360teevee.com but I haven't had time or energy to make videos yet.
>>17 Try watching this Korean drama called "Wife".
>I made it official during the first date by introducing her at a game store as my girlfriend.
That's a heck of a risk to take on any first date.
>>21
Not a risk, it's just having the will and balls to do it. Nothing to it really, as the Nike motto goes; "Just Do It".
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I LOVED Densha Otoko, but the cynic in me was screaming out how impossible it could be at certain points in the show.
Take the start for eg, Densha's stuttering at a simple thank you call should have caused the warning flags and signals to spring up in Hermes' head.
And Hermes is very often the aggressor in their r/s. how often does that happen WITH AN OTAKU?
BUT, I do agree that we all should draw from Densha's determination and bravery, THOUGH we should not allow his success despite his social inability to cloud our judgment and fill us with illusions of grandeur.
That's the problem, isn't it. Guys really require that directness, and geeks/otaku even more so. Not saying anything is like slowly roasting the poor guy over a barbeque, and he ends up missing out on opportunities (true story.)
um ive been a lurker on 4ch for a while so please dont FLAME...seeing that you guys are familiar with Densha i decided to post in this thread rather then the others...sheesh, anyways at Borders book shop today i while looking through some Manga, a young lady approched me and asked what are some good titles. Being very pretty...i was surprised that she even was interested in it...UMMM VERY PRETTY. I thought it may have been a ploy to make me look like a loser, as my self esteem is so low that i am so paranoid at anythought of anyone who approches me...(i always think the worst of people, due to past exp.) She said she had recently gotten to watch an anime that intrigued her Gokusen, on a local channeL, and through research on the net, found out about the Gokusen manga. I am familiar with Gokusen, but Borders is not the kind of store that carries the title (as of i know, no english translations except fan-translations are avalible) so i told her that the only way was to look on the internet, and i told her of a particular site. Looking dismayed she asked if it be possible to send her the link. "Welll of course but i dont know it off hand...do you have myspace or an email account??" "Yes i do "aoilwdaijdad@piajdpaodapd.com"<<<<private of course. ^-^
she then said "you seem to know alot about this could you recommend anymore titles??" i told her that i would be able to tell her and ill send em along with the linkn to the fan...site. She looked as if she wanted me too continue to talk to her...i saw that after an awkward silence...so i blurted out, well i want some coffee would you like some, and i can right them down for you>?" i was surprised at my boldness, i have had relationships before...but for 3 years i have had no contact with women...or the general outside world at all, i go to a book store very late at night or early in the morning........uggh this is going to get long ill wait to see if anyone actually replies.
I just came to this message board yesterday after watching all of Densha Otoko for the first time. I do have to say that some of the events in there are quite impossible to beleive but there are actual people out here on the internet that will support you with your biggest problems if you just trust them. I've been involved in online communities for quite some time now, but none like a love message board or any sort of self help thing. While watching it I was reminded of myself being one of the "flamers" on the internet, putting others down in there worst of times, and maybe that's not the right thing to do if they're being truely sincere and not just looking for attention. So I promise on this board to not be a flamer.
It's nice to meet you all and could you recommened any places I could get some BENOIST at :P.
there arent enough forums like 2chan in the world, well mabye theres this one, but its not so popular that there'll be a new post everytime you refresh. well, 4chan.org is like that, but well, its for teh pr0n =P
hah!, yep. I heard about 4chan at first and that's definately not the place for discussions like these if you're trying to avoid a "gtfo loser" remark. and yeah having my browser refresh this page every second would be too cool :).
lol yes, i came here seeking such a place. its nice and all, just not enough people ya kno?
>>28
Very interesting and let me just say good job and everything. Can be really hard to talk to girls.. at least I think so.
Anyway, what happened then?
"2chan" is "Futaba Channel". It is not the same as "2ch", "2channel".
Handy guide:
http://www.2ch.net/
http://www.2chan.net/ <-- NOT THE SAME PLACE
>>28 Well I think you've had experience with women if you've been in relationships before :P Try remembering how you got together in those relationships to help you with this little problem.
I've heard that a person's true character is the most attractive thing, but I could be wrong about that as it doesn't always work. It's worked relatively okay for me in that I get less of those "uncomfortable silences" XD but that's as far as it's taken me so far.
>>29 lol I know my dad imported some really good tea from China, but that's it :P but I wasn't a flamer like you :P I actually try and continue to just give bits of support. I don't think it is possible for me to do much here, especially since I'm sporadically inactive.
>>28
wow, mad lucky, thats, never happened ever, never even an okay looking girl even going near the manga section of any of MY bookstores.....this must be like, a sign, or something man, go for it!
If we're lucky, it may be the beginning of a trend.
While American comics have traditionally been for a male-only audience, Japanese manga is starting to completely change the views on comics simply because manga also appeals to girls.
Given proper exposure, manga may grow considerably as a part of American culture. And, given the fact that the best sources of information on manga tend to be American otaku like us, we end up as middlemen of sorts. Who says we can't use that to our advantage?
Of course, it's going to take lots of time for the changes to start being noticable, but it's a nice thought nonetheless.
Japanese comics have been made for boys and girls, and to be enjoyed by people of all ages for decades. American comics are usually aimed towards younger audiences and primarily male, or for a more specialized audience (geeks). Manga in Japan is treated the same way as books are here. There are books made specifically for young children, boys, girls, and adults, but even the stories made for young children can be enjoyed by older people. Understand?
Also, I assume you've been under a rock for the last, oh, 6 years or so, but anime and manga is huge in America. You can't fucking turn around without seeing shitty ass Inuyasha and all that fucking crap all over the place. It's cool to be Japanese in the United States, using chopsticks (even though you can't hold shit for more than two seconds) and eating sushi (though you hate it and most likely think it tastes like shit), wearing your goddamn kuroneko hats you got at the mall, carrying around stacks of manga, and pretending you speak Japanese and call yourself -chan.
Also, you aren't better than anyone else because you know how to get crap comics off the interweb.
>>42
Those type of people bug me, in a creepy way. It's like they'll never be interested in anything other than the mainstream pop culture. They like it because it's cool, or it's as cool as they can get, but don't appreciate the other facets.
Has anyone ever considered doing a Densha movie or film project set in the US? I think a lot of American Audiences would like the story, and the characters, but wouldn't get the Japanese references. Like mo-e for example. (Though that was totaly funny when they recorded Hermes saying "mo-e?")
But my point is that parallels do exist here, Geeks for Otaku, and other distinctions. The story is universaly good. I think American audiences would really love to see it in a manner they can relate to.
Of course I think we should all learn more about other cultures, but trying to convince 60 million Americans they have to learn more about Japanese culture would be a bigger challange than an American adaptation, sad as that is.
Whoa, flashback. Did anyone see the movie "Can't Buy Me Love," from the 80's? Totaly reminds me of all this in a way.
You can make even 3 seasons of american Densha Otoko based on 4-ch. Few episodes stories of the guys that mostly fails.
If she really does seem interested, I really think you should try and get to know her better. What do you really have to lose? You can maybe make a real good friend, or maybe even more.
that is sadly true orz
>>45
Densha in the U.S.? I think it's do-able. They just need to get get a screenwriter that understands what elements need to be reformatted and which elements they need to leave the fuck alone.
I've heard somewhere that that "My Sassy Girl" (from Korea) is getting a U.S. remake. As both densha and sassy have internet-based origins, I sure hope they make it extra good. Or fear the wrath of the Internet Fanboy Army!
ick, please don't let the U.S touch the Densha Otoko story.. PLEASE!
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A Densha Otoko U.S. remake? I'd buy it.
yeah wouldn't be suprised f the u.s. steal another jap story plot and ruin it. e.g. the ring, grudge.
I gotta admit one of the first things I thought of after I finished watching that very awesome series was how badly I wanted to find a way to bastardize it and bring it to the US...I definitely smell money and fad all over it... :-D
i hate it when hollywood always ruins everything
i hate it when hollywood always ruins everything
this isn't related to the densha otoko, but i was just wondering how do you insert that a in kita, the upside down one?
this one: ∀
and i see a lot of japanese smileys that have a lot of different characters than english, is there a site that shows how to insert those with your keyboard?
sounds funny though but watching Densha Otoko gives me a bit of courage!! I wonder where the real densha is!~ i would be so surprised to see him in this thread again...
yeah i wonder what happened to the real life Densha, is he still with Hermes
apparently i heard Densha is stil with Hermes according to wikipedia
It was on wikipedia, it must be true! The thing probably never happened in the first place.
and if he really is still with Hermes, you know he's finally done playing with the internet as he'd be occupied playing with something else... ;-)
rofl! alot of people dont think its real cos they say its impossible for that to happen, heck i stil think its true!