Seems more appropriate to have a thread like this in here. I'm opening this one up to any gender, any sexuality, if you HATE BEING SINGLE!!!

Being single irritates me, but apparently not enough to do anything about it.

I'm single, but this is something that is both bothering me and not. I'm an Electrical Engineering student with a full time internship, and I'm absolutely kicking my own ass at school to bring my GPA up. I unfortunately have come to the conclusion that if I get a girlfriend (big if), I'll either fail school or lose my job. So I, like a few of my peers, have decided to wait a while. Single life isn't that bad anyways....its cheap at least. I do prefer to hang out with girls though. I have plenty of female friends, but I've never had any bona fide "girl friends" in my life ever. Sad isn't it?

>>3 Not really. What's wrong with waiting a while? You're still young.

>>3

>>I'm an Electrical Engineering student with a full time internship

Learn to rant, because you will never have a girlfriend. You can do well in school and your job and you will never get laid, because we all know how many (and how intensely) chicks dig engineers.

I think I'm afraid to enter a relationship becuase I'm afraid I'll become one of "those" girls. A girl I admired very much growing up for being so independent changed entirely when she fell in love, as if her entire happiness depends on this one guy, and her personality changed. She started to do things like pouting to get what she wanted and I became really disapointed. I'm really afraid of the idea of relying on someone else for my happiness.

Every time I meet her my brain shuts down and I am unable to think of anything to talk about, and the uncomfortable silence is dumb and embarassing. At this rate I'm getting nowhere, fast.

>>8
I have the same problem. When I get a chance to talk with her, I try to keep the conversation going but it peters out, and partings always end up being awkward. The worst of it is afterward I can't remember if I looked at her eyes or her chest when I talked to her. I do make an effort to look at people's eyes when I listen, but my mind shorts out when I have to talk.

>>7

Precisely.

In fact, I had to tell the only girlfriend I ever had that our time was up because she just relied on me too much.

Your lover should not your only source of happiness. I'd rather remain single than have that girl clinging to me every hour of the day. People need their private time too. It got to the point I couldn't even relax, she just whined too much.

>>8

That happened to me the first 8 crushes. By the 10th, it got better to the point where I only shook afterwards. By the 12th, I was okay. Lots of practice got me going. And yes, I've had that many crushes. My high school years were nothing if not frivolous.

>>9

Heh. It happens, don't worry. As long as you don't start at her tits too often, it's alright. Once in awhile is flattering, I think (although try never to deliberately look).

As for conversational topics... if she likes politics (or even hates Bush) that's plenty right there. Books you've read, songs you've heard recently, hell... why not even local current events? Pick up a paper, scan the headlines, read a few interesting stories, and ask her if she's heard about them yet. Maybe you can be a source of news. ^^

I'm 17 years old = the number of years I've been single, and this number is probably gonna become 18 barring any miracles or drastic change of fortune.

It's tough seeing how friends get all attached while you're still alone.

>>5

Oh please, the stupid teenage girls who like the jerks fad dies after college, he still has a chance....

>>13
If you think it's bad now, wait until you're over thirty.

No woman under thirty will give you the time of day, and the stupid teenage girls who like jerks grow up to become stupid, sullen divorced women with litters of screeching, projectile-vomiting brats and the rather odd belief that you owe them anything and everything that it crosses their minds to demand, "because I'm a MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM and I have CHILLLLLLLLLLLLLDRUN."

>>14 shudders

there was someone i was completely in love with for a while, a friend of mine from university. i haven't seen him for a couple of weeks due to the christmas break, but i thought was getting over him. then i came across some pictures of him on the internet. myspace and such, you know. i am so not over him. when i get back i'm probably just going to get drunk and tell him everything, then he'll want to avoid me for the remaining two and a half years and i'll turn into a creepy obsessive stalker with printouts of his myspace pic on my wall or something. yay.

Good job, >>16! If you're going to do it, go all out!

There's currently one girl in this world that is single and won't judge me on anything other than personality, and I can't stand her. >_< We dated for a year before breaking up, and she's still very hopeful of getting back together with me. It's gotten to the point where I want to find someone else just to drive her away. I feel bad for her.

Wouldnt it seem to be more appropriate to tell her how you feel for her (or actually more lack of feelings) so she doesnt have false hope?? That seems like leading her on a bit.

>>19
I've told her how I feel several times, and that doesn't seem to be working. I'd like to stay friends with her if I can, but she wants to be more.

>>19 hmmm sounds like a bit of a catch-22...and a little scary...*Theme from Psycho plays

You may have to give up on the friendship if she cant live with the fact that you are not "into" her on that level.
It will just cause a strain on whatever friendship you have, and be totally uncomfortable.

Ha...OT but i WISH i had a female friend...

>>21

That's what it seems like it's coming to, but the thing is, at college we have almost the EXACT same friends, and I'm not really THAT desperate to shake her off that I'd switch schools to do it.

I wish I understood this thing you humans call "love"...;_;

I freakin hate being single too, age=years without girlfriend, currently,i live in a high school world where the girls are either bitchy and vain, or obsessed with their school work, or both. its a cold cold world out there...so...so...cold....
and what disgusts me though, sometimes i cant help but look at the cute bitchy vain girls and stare, cuz, theres this one girl, whos, just, so, damn pretty, but her ditzy personality makes me wanna slap her so badly, gah! damn impulses....

>>14
eeeee, thats damn scary! thats the type of crap that leads people like me to contemplate suicide man....thats depressing

>>14 i feel that ill fall into that category, im 22 sooon to be 23 in a few months...and ive given up on finding love again. (yes i once had it) Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ugh im even more depressed.

19 years old, not in college, unemployed (been for for 4 months now) and single. The thing I hate most about being single is the little women. the ones that are just a couple years younger than you and are your best friends sister and no matter how hard you want it you know that it's not right or weird. I have several of these women attracted to me and because of my good morals I reject them all, I understand though that the only reason they're attracted to me is because they're looking for a mature male figure, and I'm the only one they can find apparently.
It's a curse sigh.

>>26
It really depends. I'd rather my sister date one of my better friends than random dudes. I suppose it would get weird when they started showing affection though.

>>26 are you nuts??? what does age have to with it...i mean if they ar 12 or something well ok, i can see your dilema..cmon man if she is a grown (you said a couple years younger) then GO FOR IT!!!! Curse?? You are putting up blast doors yourself my friend!!!! Maybe they REALLY LIKE YOU!!! FOR YOU!!! NOT CAUSE YOU ARE OLDER...sheesh some people dont see a good thing when its right in front of them...

I've studied women like this for 5 years now. believe me, they just want a mature guy. and I still think it's moraly wrong, but that's just me. So what if they got a nice rack and an ass that won't quit, I'm not all for that I'm more of the emotional good girl type who's at least the same age as I am where we're both at the same level of exp and can progress together. I don't think a relationship with a youngin would work out with me, honestly.

>where we're both at the same level of exp and can progress together

this made me lol a little :)
If you make a party and you're not close to the same level, one of you will face the penalty of reduced experience point gain.

Sometimes I think the worst part of being a single female is having to deal with lame/gross pick up attempts...

A seemingly nice guy who worked at a store was always very nice to me at the check out. He wasn't really attractive but seemed like a really nice guy so I enjoyed talking to him and was interested in getting to know him better.

Then, when I actually have a conversation with him, he talks to me about DILDOS of all things. WHAT was he thinking....??

I kind of laughed thinking of him kicking himself later that night for rambling onto such a gross topic though... (´∀`)

You didn't work in an adult store, did you? :3

Er, I mean he- oh, just delete this and >>33. I failed OTL

>>29 you hit the nail on the proverbial head...i have had ass, and tits, and probably more then the majority of singles here have had...now that i am totally housebound...i realize that... "THAT" doesnt matter, i want a girl to talk to, to cry on her shoulder,tell her my secrets AND to tell her how beautiful she is, to be complacent with a wonderful HUMAN being...looks really are nothing...love breaks all those barriers...hopefully ill bring down my own fence down. Being sick, its not like youd think. Today i couldnt even step out of my room...my wonderful mother (hwo goes through so much to indterstand my condition) deliverd to me Ramen and beer!! I feel as though im going to die without loving again...im capable of being a man, of using my heart...but i have lost that gusto...4 years had taken its toll...but i will try...

i will try.

>>35
You better try. Get out there! The gusto will come back I'm sure.

Being single is both a blessing and a curse.

It is a curse in the sense that I don't have anyone to tell my intimate thoughts, someone to share experiences with, to love, etc, all those things that are involved in love.

However, it's also a blessing. In my highschool, I see one couple that are "truly in love", so to speak. They aren't going out for the sake of sex/popularity, etc. However, it hurts me to watch this guy with her. He has no male peers anymore. He only has her now. Really, having a girlfriend can be an alienating experience as a man, as your close friends might not understand why you like her, and she demands a lot of your time. At least, this is the case in high school, where you see her daily, and therefore, why not speak with her? Maybe this is what she thinks. If you break up, you see each other on a daily basis as well.

I enjoy being single, it has a lot of benefits. I find it slightly awkward dealing with women due to a lack of shared common interests. With fellow men, we can understand each other and have a lot of fun, regardless of what we're doing. Since I've always been single, it's hard to think of fun things I could do with a women for extended periods of time and not get bored with her or the activity (besides sex :P hurr hurr).

Maybe you can understand, but highschool romance is probably shit. If it wasn't bad enough, I've ruined every opportunity I've had in some way :P At least I can laugh and learn from the experience.

>>37
i definitely agree. ever since a year ago, my friend got a girlfriend, hes never been the same. we just, stopped talking. i miss my friend. out of anyone i know, he was the best mmorpg-er i knew, and then yesterday he asks me
"yo, can u send me solitaire?" thats how much hes changed

_|¯|O hes a lost cause

>>37
but, hes happy, so, im not gonna do anything outta respect to him

>>38
Totally been there. Friends hook up and then they're like, totally dead to the rest of the world. That situation is way too damn familiar to me -- been there, done that, got the crappy t-shirt.

Agreed. I had a good friend, we'd been friends since kindergarten... about a year ago he got married. He's really happy, and I'm glad of that... but we don't talk much because he's just so domestic now. I'm still in school (even though I'm 24, lol), he's graduated and working. They just bought a nice house, and I'd lay money they'll have kids within the next year or so. He wasn't really a wild guy to start with, but now I see him maybe 2-3 times a year, and there's no drinking, no staying out late and having fun, because THEY GO TO BED AT 8:30.

Anyway, my 'being single' rant:

I've never dated anyone in real life. Sad, huh? I was in a serious online relationship for over a year, and while I think I understand a bit about what it's like to care deeply about someone, the reality of relationships is still a mystery to me. I'm a shy person by nature, and it intimidates me, the thought of dating girls my own age - because most of them have a lot of experience in this area, while I have none. What's bad is that I realize this problem will only get worse as time goes on, yet I still can't seem to make anything happen.

I imagine this question has been asked many times on this board already, but what are the best ways to subtly express interest without looking like a moran?

>>42 is an exact reflection of my traits and weaknesses. can somebody help us?, lol.

>>42 and >>43

Being shy is fine, there are plenty of shy girls your age as well who appreciate men who are not confidence powerhouses, but I will admit they are harder to find.

Yes, maybe most girls have more experience, but that's really not important.

Subtly express intrest with these simples steps:

1. Smiles, a smile says more than most things.
2. Pay attention to eyes and keep your body close to hers/his without being too invasive.

If both these things are mutual then the next step is to move into dating etc.

sigh

I just got done watching Densha Otoko, and while its a very funny and romantic drama it just brought up some very painful thoughts.

I have been happily single for the past few years, well 6 years to the month, but lately I just have been meaning to get back out there and hopefully find someone that can love me.

Unfortunately I never really was good at the initial phases of a budding relationship and since I have been single for so long I have become somewhat of a shut-in.

My few relationships have never really passed the one month marker except for one but that one ended in a reverse friendzone(don't ask to long to tell).

I really think I need some new scenery. Maybe a hope that something new in my life will bring about a change in attitude.

Well I really just needed to get that off my chest. Good Morning to you all.

>>45

Quite frankly, I don't think a change of scenery ever changes anything. What I personally believe is that a change of scenery indicates the person's willingness to start over. It's not the cause, it's the symptom.

Moving somewhere else and expecting things to happen will only cause you to have a new den to shut yourself into. Even worse, you'll know less people. What you need when moving to a new area is a gusto and determination to meet new people/start over again.

On that note, best time to do this kind of thing is probably late April, just as Spring goes into full swing. Yes, the seasons have a huge influence on people. Has to do with sunlight levels and serotonin levels.

That said, you all are probably relatively young. Say 16-25. That means you've got at least another 40 to 65 years left on this godforesaken planet. Either toss 'em in despair or start accepting that there are solutions if you look hard enough.

This is now the official Singles Rant thread.

giving advice in love is a hard thing to do. Everyone is so different and have gone through different things.

but to those who are sad, dont be. dont give up but dont be desperate. there is someone out there for you and you owe it to yourself not to give up.

I 2nd the notion.

I've been single my whole life. When I was younger, I tried asking out girls, but I didn't really know what I was doing. Since then, I've been fine with just being friends with a lot of people. I have no real desire to go out and date but I am wondering if it's just a delusion...

>>50
same here... I had no clue as to what I was doing. I don't know if I have improved or am still as clueless as all those other previous times.

>>51
I've dated a lot of girls and had long relationships, and still I really dont know exactly what I am doing, I probably never will. But don't give up because of that.

Did we move here now? (general-dudes)

I suppose so. Are you going to the party? (read: go to the party!) :3

Sorry to make you guys (and myself) excited, but I talked to her again today and the party's off >_<

Also, I'm getting kinda frustrated. (With myself, not able to ask her out.)

I have been single for about six months. I know, not long, but it feels long. However, my last relationship was only for 2-3 months. The one before that ended last January -- it was nearing 3 years (online relationship lol).

Never had sex with the most recent girl. I, too, am enjoying the single life. Sex, though... As shallow as I feel for it, I would enjoy some sex. It hasn't bothered me until recently.

You may remember me as the guy that "ended" General's Single Thread :l

>>56
Aye keel yoo now. ]:

>>56
Most guys would "enjoy some sex" right about now lol

>>58
not if you just masturbated

>>59
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>>61
Get out.

Single since i was born. That's 23 years in all, and probably remains the same status in the short term future. Even densha otoko is luckier than me, since he got a nice gal and lives near Akihabara. T_T

> 480 Name: Random Anonymous 2006-01-08 00:39 ID:Heaven
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> THOUGH I ENJOY MY SINGLE LIFE I AM STARTING TO GET SEXUAL FRUSTRATION

is being single that sad?

>>65
Only for long periods of time.

>>63
I know if I lived in Tokyo I'd never get a girlfriend, partly on account of Akihabara. PORN GAMES AND MAID CAFES ARE A PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE SUBSTITUTE FOR REAL HUMAN INTERACTION.

Seriously, though, I'm already enough of a Hikikomori that I hardly know anyone anymore and never talking to strangers isn't exactly helping me here.

...

So lonely.

>>67

Go out. Do the first step to save yourself. Read Gantz. It sure as hell helped me.

>>68
How?!
Didn't that just depict a bleak future for everyone?

>>69
aha,
ID: id di 1 2 pee 4

i read the wikipedia entry for Hikikomori, and its basically what ive become. i didnt notice, and i denied it to myself, but, it was all clear, so so clear, it was so exact and right there, it was like a description of my current lifestyle. freaked the crap outta me, im gonna get outta here. this years challenge for me: get a girlfriend. ive never really tried before, gave up many times before, but this time, i suppose im gonna try. come on guys! lets do this thing! (yeah, corny, but lets try anyway)

"True" hikikomori is pretty extreme. If you skipped enormous amounts of school and wouldn't even leave the house to get a job, then you probably qualify.

I'm as close to hikikomori as you can get while still having an income (well not quite... I could probably find a job where I can work from home.) I only leave the house for work, it takes friends an enormous amount of pressure to even get me over into another house, and so forth.

On the other hand, I just call it "going out sucks" because there's nothing particularly interesting to do out in the city anymore. I'm probably at that age (27).

A little pick-me-up for the single men: What women like about men.
http://www.deanesmay.com/archives/004651.html

Hikikomoris hijacking thread.

>>69

I could find myself in the main character, who was a pretty big nerd. That and his monologues opened my eyes.

i've been single for like... er.. this is my 18th year single. Yea, single since I was born, kinda like densha-san :D

I don feel sad, I am quite contented and happy with my life. It's just the fact that i do feel quite lonely sometimes. Hmmm...

>>76
Only you can solve that problem, kiddo.

>>78
true dat

Okay, so I think I got to asking her out to see a movie.
I liked the poster who hinted me on what not to do (or do) in the previous thread,
so if anyone has any hints, I'll gladly take them.

he date/time is not settled yet, but she said we'll speak aobut it tomorrow.

Woah :)

Damn, didn't mean to sage ヽ(´ー`)ノ

>>81
Someone get this man that helpful "sage explanation thread" stat! Oh, and some common sense; >>352 hasn't happened yet, unless you're that idiot who likes to be called 352. You better 352GET or I'm gonna /slap you!

Hello >>82.
With my post (>>80) I already had sage in my e-mail field when I posted, and I didn't notice until afterwards, and the thread was pretty far down, so I came back to age it!

Also, my name is 352, because that's what I was known as in the "single male rant thread" on the general-board, now ended because of this thread here. Should I get a tripcode or what?

Oh, I'm an idiot.

While I was eating lunch at the student union today, I saw a girl reading a volume of the Chobits manga. As far as I could tell, she wasn't ugly or anything... and yet I didn't go talk to her.

What's the worst that could have happened? (;´д`)

>>84

You would have gotten into an argument about how Chobits isn't a shoujo manga, and she would have punched you in the face.

>>85

M...maybe.

What a fool I was. :(

Your only choice now is to spend your every waking moment staking out the student union until you see that girl again reading manga.

>>90
As untrue in nature as it is in romance. She might show up again, or you might see another girl reading manga. If you see one, just go for it!

so far my bad luck has a way with preventing me from getting a girlfriend i think XD When I was going to try and give a girl i thought was hitting on me a gift, she got a bf before i gave it to her XD I laugh at how perfect the timing is.

>>84
Start your conversation with "On! Off! On! Off! On! etc" and see where it gets you... you never know ;P

>>92

"XD" is not actually valid punctuation in English.

Hello. I just returned to 4-ch!

I wonder...what percent of the people who visit here are women?

>>96
Good question. Count the number of posts that start with "I'm a girl, "?

>>97
Well I'm sure in a lot of cases a poster will omit that detail because it's irrelevant. e.g. for this post that I am posting right now, would it matter?

It sort of matters because if it's just a bunch of guys giving advice to each other, wouldn't that advice be wrong at times because the advice is what seems to be right in a guy's point of view but may be totally bad in a girl's point of view?

If guys' and girls' points of view about what was right and wrong when courting were really all that different a significant amount of the time, there probably wouldn't be 5 or 6 billion of us on the planet...

> were really all that different in a detrimental way a significant amount of the time

fixed.

really hope that someone replies to this, need to rant too

there this girl, who ive been close to for about a few months but weve been nothing but friends. in fact weve been considering ourselves as brother sisters, she treats me like an older brother and vice versa.

the thing is, i somehow wanted more out of this, i actually wanted to have a real relationship with her, i really think i got a chance. but then a month ago she just got another bf. i tried to not care but i cant overlook the fact that i am a bit jealous and wished i told her my feelings.

now i cant seem to get her out of my mind. even though i dont want to think about someone elses girl, she keeps on getting into my head. everytime i get online i wished that her name comes online, everytime the phone rings i wished it was her. not sure what going on with me.

i probably know this wont go far but i just need someone to tell me somethine about this. thinking by myself doesnt usually see the situation from another perspective..need some opinions

Doh, I was trying to post that without an ID. It's not mine but a repost from a latecomer to the /general thread.

You can either forget about it, or wait. Or interfere.

Don't interfere in ways which can be traced back to you, though.

>>102

The key is to occupy yourself dude. If you don't have a million things going on with you, she will be in your mind all the time, and it will just drive you up the fucking wall. Join a sports team, dive into a good long book, or pick up some hobby to occupy your mind off her. Things will only just get worse the more and more you think of her.

i wont interfere , im just happy to see her happy nowadays with the new guy. not expecting anything new though. ill wait for the right one for me comes..;)

no one else have any problems on being single?

Eh? No, not really. One typically has fewer problems when they are single than when they are not.

Damn it >< I'd like to see some Densha Otoko in here :(. I'm full of advices and noone got any serious problems...

Anything related with dating, sex, etc. Maybe I'm not too old (still in my 20's) but I went through a lot ;).

lol nope I still dun understand this shit you guys call "love"!

It's just a funny state of mind, when people do creazy things. Maybe in the end you'll fail, but it's always worth it. Just for this one thrill... I think that I have never felt more alive than on the times I fell in love. In my opinion love is the meaning of life. Can't find any better reasons...

i lol'd at your so-called "human emotion"!

Ugh, I've seen a bunch of my single friends who probably love a girl, but they have an unhealthy obsession about her. They shower the girl with gifts, and say "ZOMG I LOVE YOU" all the time, but that just led to more and more rejections, and them complaining to me about it. -sigh- I wonder what the border between "Love" and "Unhealthy Obsession" is...

>>116 is a jaded teenager who substitutes cynicism for wisdom

Hello to all.

Today, I went to school like it was a regular school day, but as noonhour approached, I had a feeling something peculiar was going to happen. People were being a lot nicer to me all of a sudden and I had no clue why.

While that still isn't explained, something quite odd ended up happening. A girl I have a crush on who knows I exist because I kick everybody at my school's collective asses at Stepmania invited me to her house so I could fix her computer since she knows I'm a huge computer geek and everything. I'm meeting up with her tomorrow to decide a date as to when I get to go to her house, but something else is stressing me. What do I do when I'm there besides fixing the problems?

I think I might have some chances with her, so I might as well confess. I just hope she respects my feelings and doesn't go out spreading that out into the whole school. That would be hell. Does anyone have any ideas as to how I should confess to her?

(As for the name, she's a host on the student radio station.)

isnt too early for u to confess at this stage? she just got to know your existence, let her welcome you as a friend first. feel acceptable to her first, then you can decide how and when to confess

u are implying that she is single right?..:P

I think you should at least confirm she is single and like, get to know her or whatever. Maybe invite her for coffee after fixing the comp or something?
Its still too early to confess. She might take it the wrong way..

>>118

(As for the name, she's a host on the student radio station.)

wow, that's a long name..:P

>>118 First meeting is way too fast for confession. If you have watched densha, you should remember that fixing the computer wasn't his first step and he still did not confessed to her then. So firstly try to fix her cpu. It's a good chance for you to

1. Learn as much as you can about her (Most important if she has a bf)
2. Ask her out for a lunch or something.

If you'll ask her out and she won't accept it, then it means that you had no chances from the begining. If she'll accept it, it means that she wants to see you again and it was not only about fixing her computer (or maybe she's feeling that she have to repay you somehow for your work :P)

Anyway, don't try to be too fast with confession. It may have a horrible conseqences.
I think that "Hot srs" is a good short name for her :P
(Host on the school radio station)

Thanks for the replies, 4-ch.

I've decided I'll use the nickname SAS for her. Short and Sweet, since she isn't very tall but she's quite sweet.

The major thing I'm concerned about is I think I know what the problem is, but regardless, since this is a Windows PC we're talking about, I don't really think she deserves to put up with whatever viruses and spyware crawled on there. I haven't touched her computer yet, but from what she's told me, it'll be unbearably slow. Therefore, I'll probably reinstall the OS.

What do we do while the OS reinstalls? That's what's freaking me out. I do know she's somewhat of a DDR fan, so I'm hoping she HAS DDR so I can play with her and impress her like I did in the past. Sure, using DDR to attract girls is silly, but it's one of the only things I'm somewhat talented in. :/

I'm meeting up with her at noonhour EST today to decide when I get to go to her house. Keep sending in those replies, /love/.

-- Radio Otoko

>>124
If the comp is slow, reinstall with Windows 2000, her comp probably has one of those old slow Windows 98. I had a similar situation where I went to a friend's house to repair her old comp (and I did have a crush on her too). We just sat and talked about various things while it installed. I can't really remember of what we talked about though as I was also very nervous.

well now we know she is interested in something that you too enjoy, if you are good at it then you can somewhat maybe impress her with you skills. not sure im using the right words here.

probably you already on your way to her house by now cuz im not sure were on the same timeline here. really hope that you could work on the conversation during the installation process and maybe if things go well, you;; be seeing each other again..;)

good luck Radio Otoko and SAS

If her computer is not too old, just use windows XP. Don't forget about some firewall. I would also suggest using cracked counterspy ;).

Anyway, better than just jumping ddr is a normal talk. Most of the people think that guys jumping on ddr looks really funny. If you want to impress her, just fix her computer and try not to say anything stupid.

So reinstall windows and talk with her while installing.

Fixing computer = blowjob as payment...
Isn't this customary?

>>128
I've fixed so many computers and never had a blowjob as a payment... thank god...

radio, dont look for a blowjob as payment that may be worse than confessing too early.

lol. If he would take it seriously, he would have 100% chance for failure :P

Well this didn't go well at all. I showed up at noonhour where she was going to tell me when I could go. She shows up, looking gorgeous as usual, and then, she tells me that her computer was fine. ;_;

I feel like a loser now.

Crap ><. Now you have to give up or try to do something. Maybe ask her out? It's not that hard really... You just need some place where you'll be able to talk with her. Without any friends. Just 2 of you.

Radio, thats okay. A misstep at this stage isnt that fatal... I think. You guys are just acquaintances right now, right? You should probably try to get to know her more, and stuff. If SAS has a boyfriend, well...

I know where her locker is, I'll see if I can talk to her tomorrow morning. There's just a minor problem... I don't know how to ask a girl out. ;_;

Try to think about any reason. Maybe just ask her out somewhere. Like for a tea/cofee/ice cream/pie/lunch so many options ><. BTW. how old are you?

Oh.. I've almost forgot. Don't ask her out to the cinema.
Reasons:

1. It's too soon
2. In the cinema you'll be watching movie, not talking.

right now talking is important. So think about anything that will let you talk with her.
So forget about DDR...

>>137-138

Not to mention I'm not much of a movie-type to be with.

As for age, I'm 14. Yeah, I know it's young for relationships and those never work out but I'm lonely, desperate, and I don't want to miss this opportunity.

Besides, I think she knows I'm lonely since I usually just sit outside of their studio and refresh del.icio.us/popular all day long.

just go ahead and talk to her. ask her about her pc just to see if she has any other problems about the pc that maybe u could help. when youve got a nice talk going on then you could ask her out

follow >>138's advice, just ask her out for a coffee or somn..

ps: ask around if she's single!!!

Yeah, your main priorities right now are to check if she is single, talk to her more and maybe ask her out to someplace casual. Er, unless you know she plays/is interested in/knows about DDR you better not talk about it. Might sound creepy. Eh, what do I know?

You're 14, so it's really lotta easier. Just meet her somewhere @ school (somewhere far from her/your friends) and ask her out for a lunch or something. Don't tell her when, just ask her if she would like to go out with you sometime. And If she'll say that it's ok then you can choose the date. So don't treat it like a date but just like a meeting with a friend. "Friends" is a good begining. You have to talk a lot. One of my friends told me, that there is no such thing as a friendship between girl and a guy. Sooner or later it'll turn into love and it'll be the end of friendship. So, make her your friend.

And remember! No showing off on ddr >_<. It's not helping a bit.

>Er, unless you know she plays/is interested in/knows about DDR you better not talk about it.

SAS is quite the fan. She even plays DDR music on the station sometimes. :O (And now with Supernova, probably more IIDX songs since there are lots of IIDX transplants, but I'll shut up now since this is /love/ and not /games/)

>You're 14, so it's really lotta easier.

And she's 15/16 years old. It'd maybe look a little weird.

>And remember! No showing off on ddr >_<. It's not helping a bit.

Closest arcade is 40 minutes away. Other than that, it's my house or her house. If we stay away from our houses and that arcade, I can't really show off on DDR. :P

>ps: ask around if she's single!!!

Here's the problem with asking around. It usually gets out to people that way and I don't really want more rumors to spread about me in the school.

One of my friends told me that she was with a guy last Monday or so. She broke up with him the next day according to him. The problem is, I don't know if it's true or not. If I ask the other girls at the station, I think it'll be quite obvious what my intentions are. Besides that, I don't know who else would know.

Do I take a chance and ask her other friends?

>(somewhere far from her/your friends)

Hm. I'll see what I can do. I just hope this doesn't end up like all my other failed relationships. ;_;

Hmm.. I've got an idea. Just download stepmania and loads of packs for it (I've got personally 12GB pack of songs ;)) and ask her if she wants you to install it for her ^_^. But thats the idea for later. Right now just try to talk with her in some quiet and maybe a bit romantic place.

Most of the ~16 years old girls prefere older guys. Thats bad, cuz she may consider you as a kid, but if you'll make a good impression (try to act like you are older then you really are) it may work...

Can you tell me if it's cold now in the place you live? Cuz it would help me in getting few ideas for you. It's -20C in my country now >< so the best place to go out with girl is a tea house. We've got a pretty nice one close to my house. All of the people are sitting on the floor that is filled with pillows in a small rooms separated by curtains and thin walls. Rooms are lit by the candles. You can smell nargila in the whole place and you can listen to the hindu music that comes from the hidden speakers. If I would like to go on a date, I would consider such place...

Now now Radio... just because she's 15/16 doesn't mean you can't get her. You gotta show her yo' moves. Not on DDR, though. I'm talkin' about "I SIMPLY ROCKED TOO HARD" moves. Yeah, you know what I'm talkin' about. You know, things go well, you might be showin' her your "OH" face. You know what I'm talkin' about- "OH OH OH OH" xD. Buuuuuuut anyway... seriously, Radio, don't sweat it. What you gotta do is like, break something minor on the comp, then be all dumb and be like "zomg wtf hapened 2 my c0mputar!?!??" and you'll go up to her and be like, "Hey, umm, something happened to my computer and I have no idea what I did. Can you fix it?" And she'll be like "5UR3!" So then she goes over, you sit down, she fixes it over your shoulder, and after shes done, you thank her profusely. You then proceed to ask her out on a small little meeting- but about computers. Ask her to tutor you, because you're OBVIOUSLY not good with computers, LOL! She'll say yes or no. If she questions it, tell her that it's purely as friends and it'll only be like 30 minutes. If she accepts, w00t. If not, oh well, try again later plx.

Anyway, good luck, Radio. I'll be here if you need me, if you know what I mean.

"Ooh Peter... ooh ooh ooh~" -OfficeSpace

Ekhm... But she asked him to fix her cpu, not the other way. So probably she thinks that he knows quite a lot about computers. So playing dumb won't help him ><

No, she asked him to fix a problem on her computer. He could possibly not know enough to fix a different problem. Sometimes even I have problems fixing things. But in the end, I do, because Google is my second best friend. :]

>>149 Thats just perfect. I gave him so many advices but none of theme was as true as yours ><

>>147 Dude, I have a Mac. She doesn't know anything about Macs. Also, I don't know what you mean by

>I'll be here if you need me, if you know what I mean.

... :/

>>145 No. Just. No.

>>144 Canada. I won't specify a province for the sake of anonymity.

I don't want to know where. Just give me some weather report. Is it snowing? Is it sunny? I've never been closer than x000 miles to USA...

-10 Celsius. Approximately. There aren't tea houses around here (that comment made me think of Hermes :P) but there are coffee shops not too far from school. :)

Then invite her to one of those coffee shops, Radio! Not as a date, but as friends... I.E, at the end of school or whatever, you can go up to her and say, "Hey, you want to go grab some coffee?" or whatever.

YES!!! Thats a good idea!

It sucks man. I can't meet a girl. I don't know any girls. I don't know anyone!

19. Anyway, it's like after high school I don't know anyone. I go to college, but I commute so I don't have much opportunity to meet people. And actually not even in college this semester cause of some screwup which I won't get into. I'm not a bad looking guy or anything, it's just like I don't know anyone and have no way to meet people.

>>157 It's so common in here >< People should just change their attitude...
So what's your age?
Don't tell me that you don't know anyone...

19 like I said, and it's true! I have not a single person in the real world that I would even call a "friend," no one who I hang out with or talk to or whatever. I mean, in high school I has sortafriends. But they weren't great enough friends that I kept in touch outside of high school.

Well that might be something, but see now this semester I'm stuck not even being able to attend college because of some mixup in which I have to find some sorta job to pay tuition money I suddenly found out I owe. So it's like I'm just stuck at home all day now. Haven't found my job yet or whatever.

What I can't MULTITASK

>>159

u really need to consider ur priorities first, man. u need the money to go to college and to financially go out on a date with anyone. if u cant multitask then dont. do things step by step. your 19 so im sure your able to work it out somehow..

i agree with >>162 find a club that you have any interest then join it. you'll make friends and people will notice you more.

ps: what happen to Radio Otoko? how is it going on with SAS? probably already started to ask her out to coffee hopefully.

the problem is reality is kinda sad sometimes. work on making it better. lets hope for the best

RADIO OTOKO! WE'RE WAITING FOR THE REPORT!!!

Guys, chill. He's at school.

Actually, I'm not at school. We don't have school today. Ha. I can't really do anything until Monday. You'll have to wait until then to find out.

And >>171, you don't even know me. Stop pretending you do.

now that'l take a while..
take your time and looking forward to this coming monday for both of you..;)

just don't stress yourself out over it

You got 2 days for planning. Thing about the perfect tactic ^_^.

Well SORRY, >>172. Jeez... I just assumed. >.>

>>175 I'm seriously considering asking her friends about her status before doing anything. That way, if she's taken, I can get over it and she won't notice a thing.

But the least you can do is get to know her and become friends, right?

IF YOU'LL ASK HER FRIENDS THERE IS A GREAT CHANCE THAT THEY'LL TELL HER ABOUT IT ><.
Better just ask her out. Don't call it date. Just ask her out for a coffe like a friend.
If you'll ask her friends, you won't stop gossips around you. It may become your curse ><. If you'll just ask her out even if she have a boyfriend she may go out with you. Then she'll tell you. Just as a friend. If she'll say "no" only both of you will know about it.

>>179 Trust me. Her friends aren't the kind of people who'd tell her. I know them well enough to know this.

Sorry guys, I know what to do in this situation because I know the people who are involved in it. I see what you mean, >>179, but I think I'm better off on my own for this decision.

>>180
Hi, I am 180, I will ask you guys for advice then completely ignore it and get all pissy with the people who tried to help me!

>>181

See >>141. Suggests asking others if she's single or not. So I'm still following someone's advice. If you all told me to kill myself, I wouldn't do it.

Some people have some kind of self-control. Sadly, I do. And that makes for lame threads like this one.

Looks like we have ourselves some serious business here.

Ok. if you think that they won't tell her, then ask them. But I would still recomend you the things I said in 179. Why? Because I went through the exactly same thing. I asked few of my friends if the girl is free, and what they did? They promised me not to tell her about it and guess what was the first thing they did when I was gone? >_<

But it's your decission.
We're waiting for your report.

Just don't be too slow with everything, cuz you may lose the best thing in your life.

let radio otoko make his own decision. we're here to offer advice not tell im what to do. it's up to him to pick and choose what to do. I'm glad you aren't blindly listening to us. ADD OIL RADIO OTOKO!

come back and report again plz!

>>185 Thats what I tried to say in my 184th post.
We are only giving our own opinions and you can either use them or reject them. It's up to you. After all it's your life ;). Don't forget about it Radio!

>>186

I understood your message. :) and I whole heartily agree!

>>185

Oil? Whatever. :P
See you tomorrow afternoon, guys.

the anticipation is killing me! @_@

If you ask about her status her friends will tell her, assuming her friends are all girls. Most girls do not really know how to be discreet in this aspect. That might not be a negative thing though. That way she knows you are interested so she could also initiate something. At that age girls have not learned how to be patient and graceful so they do not fear looking too eager or desperate as girls my age do.

If you want to do it the tradtional way and ask her out, do not bother with the as friends thing. It is a waste of time and it is more flattering for her knowing that it is a date and you like her more deeply than "just friends". A really formal date might make her ill at ease so something quiet but simple is alaways nice.

Good luck with whatever happens!

>>191

> my age

How old are you?

And I'm back.

Sadly, I didn't see her at all today. The bad news is I have nothing to report to you. The good news is that this incident gives me an extra day to figure things out.

Sorry for letting you down.

But did you talked with her friends yet???
Oh well... probably not. We are waiting ^^. Don't act too fast and don't be too slow ^^. Just find the good speed and always go forward never backward ;) if you know what I mean...

I hope that tommorow you'll give us some good news ;)

im stupid, last weekend, on friday i went to this con, i saw this pretty girl there, who also kept checking me out. this kept happening thru the day. then, i went back again on saturday, she was there again, with buncha friends, and she was still checking me out and glancing at me, was thinking of talking to her, but, ah, too many people. ok so, heres my folley, so, i start to go home from the con and get to the train station, and who do i see, but her, with no one else, and, she sees me, and then looks away. but the thing is, im frozen, trying not to look at her, couldnt even say a single word, i couldnt move, i just stood there, and so, my train came, which wasnt hers, and i went home. god, im so stupid and shy, but, i suppose we all learn from our mistakes, and i will NEVER let this happen AGAIN. i so regret this, so so so much. pretty girl, who just went to a nerd convention, and looks slightly interested in u? i mean come on, thats a perfect setup, ah...rants....im stupid

>>195 WakabaMark strikes again! I didn't talk with her friends since I only saw one of her friends today and she was busy with a teacher, and class was beginning. I then tried to look around for her but had no luck.

I do have some news though. Our school is having its annual snow day on the 16th of February so I'm just hoping we pick the same activity (we can choose to go to one of two or three activities out of town that day, which is awesome since I'm getting sick of this town) and get to hang out together that day. Of course, that's if she comes, but I hope so! (I'm getting carried away, where was I?)

Ah yes, another thing, this is somewhat bad news though. Her class is having a trip to Italy (and Greece I believe) which means I won't see her for nearly a week or two around April. I might be a bit pessimist but I'm hoping nothing happens while she's on the trip.

I just hope she doesn't get... taken while on the trip. ORZ

I need to take action quickly. Hopefully she'll be there tomorrow and I can resume this exciting story.

As for >>196, that's what this topic is fore. Ranting. :P You're not stupid at all.

Eurotrip time!!!!

and >>196 it's good to learn from your mistakes. you'll do better next time!

Damn... Italy is a perfect place for love. Warm night, big moon, you cannot risk not confessing before her trip! Just ask her out. After all if her friends will tell you that she's got a boyfriend you won't do nothing it's the same situation as if she would reject you. So just better talk with her. Come on, she's your future girlfriend! You should be able to talk with your future girlfriend!

>>201
Easier said than done

So where do you get to go for the snow day thing, Radio?

>>203 We have three choices of ski stations and other snowpark-type things.

>>201 I will talk to her. Except... whenever she's around I just lose track of what I'm doing and fuck things up. I need to concentrate. Tomorrow's my big chance. Every Wednesday she gets her lunch from a restaurant close to our school and brings it back to eat during songs on the station...

I could wait for her at her locker and talk to her when she comes back..

why dont you go with her?

Or maybe sorta like.. "bump into her" and then ask where she is goin, and ask if you could come with. I dunno...

I have never had a real boyfriend. For the longest time I have tried to be the ideal female to a man. Like being sensitive to his wants, being feminine, reserved, and polite. I am not ugly or fat either. My Mother had me practice these things when guests would come over to the house, and the men were always impressed. I thought that these things would guarantee a boyfriend. WRONG!!!

I cannot figure it out. Men look at me but that is it...nothing more. Right now I am very interested in this regular customer that comes in. He is a kind of a nerdy type, someone women tend to disregard. Tall, skinny, and wears glasses. He has never really paid me much attention until recently and I keep botching it up by getting too shy. If he looks at me, I always look away rather than try to meet his eyes.

Oh well, nothing will become of it as usual...

>>207 Come on, you have to look into his eyes or he'll think that you don't want to even look at him. I have only one advice for you: Always be yourself and find the person that will love you when you'll be like that.

>>204 I'm dying to hear some news ;).

Goddamnit. My best friend knew about SAS and myself, and at lunchtime some DQN in my class blackmailed him into giving him information on both our crushes. It's not the fact that he knows this that pisses me off, it's that he blackmailed my friend into knowing this. It harms me even more since I'm bitter against him for doing this to use.

AND SINCE I'M BITTER, he's threatening to go out there and tell her. Nonsense.

don't worry about him, if you are able to get a date with her and he tells her that you have a crush on her he would look like a fool. i mean, why would you go out with a girl if you didnt have a crush or some sort of attraction to her? so ask her out before he can talk to her and ruin everything. and in the mean time, find a way to get him back for blackmailing your friend.

>>207

wish there were more girls like you locally.

>>207
it sucks being shy orz

Wow. Radio, it becomes more and more complicated. As a >>210 said, try to talk with her before this idiot will spoil everything. It really sucks to be shy. But what do you have to lose except your pride? God damn it I would rather ask 10 girls for a date if I could do it instead of going tomorrow to the dentist >< (he'll remove my 2 teeth).

Anyway, ask her out asap, cuz it's getting more and more complicated.

PS. All the girls know that men are becoming really dumb when they have to talk with them for the first time. They don't expect you to be very eloquent while asking them for the first date. So don't worry, and even if you'll mess something up, it'll be ok. Just try not to do the same mistakes a few times.
I'm crossing my fingers for ya.

PS. Thank god, that I've got a girlfriend and I don't have such problems...
PSS. Thank got that she'll be far away while I'll be in the dentist chair ><.

>>213 is right. Any girl who is worth dating understands if the person asking them out for the first time is nervous while doing so.

>>207 listen to >>208 and make eye contact. Talk to him.

Let us know what happens too!

He came in today, and I made sure that I was the one to attend to him. I was so nervous to talk to him, because he seems like a sour person so I did not want to displease. He was picking up an order that he had made over the phone, but the order was no where to be found. So, displeasure was inevitable. He looked directly into my eyes for a moment, but I had to look away because I always think that the person will say "what are you looking at?!"

After his order was remade I brought it to him, and he gave me one more look, but no smile. He has never smiled at me...he only looks.

>>207
SMILE AT HIM! guys go crazy when a cute girl smiles at them

>>216
if he's anything like me, he may wear a thick coat of emotional armor after years of getting kicked in the teeth despite good intentions.

>>217 is sort of right, but this is a business, so it may simply be expected of the staff by customers. you may need to be more direct than that.

granted i'm just some moron over the internet, but asking the guy out might work. I have yet to hear of a guy who refused to go on at least one date with a girl (under 400 lbs that is) unless they already had a girlfriend. Also, His demeanor may change when he realizes theres more to it than business. I often carry about the same mannerisms day to day because work is boring and mindbending and most people i see are in my way.

>but this is a business, so it may simply be expected of the staff by customers.

even still if a cute girl smiles deep down inside i know she is being nice, my simple man brain tells me "hey stupid, she smiled, i think you got a shot."

I just came back from school.

That fag from the above post, >>209 was going to tell her late this afternoon, so I simply wasn't going to risk her being told by him and confessed to her less than an hour ago.

I was so shy and lost in her eyes that I just told her she looked simply gorgeous and I had a crush on her and then forgot everything else and just told her that I had to tell her or I'd simply go crazy from keeping it inside. We both had to leave shortly after I said this, so I wished her a good week-end and left.

Shortly after we both left school, it started raining. I don't know if I've fucked anything up or not, but I took advantage of the rain being there and started crying. All the tears and nervousness I've kept inside me finally could come out.

What happens after this? I don't know. Gah, I'm rambling.

damn radio, you have BALLS. i give you much respect. try to follow up on your confession, if she does feels the same, then congrats man, and if she doesnt, its not the end of the world, just get back up, hold your head up high, and find another horse to ride. you have done something the vast majority of are not able to do. you are the FUCKING MAN.

Radio, you gave me first chance to say: KITAAAA~~~~~

Congratz. I'm proud of you. It was allright. She didn't said anything? If she have to think about it, it's ok. Now it's her time to do something. Just don't try to ask her everyday if she made up her mind (it's tottaly not like you, but I had to say it). Anyway, there was only one thing that you should do and you didn't. You should offer her your umbrella. Maybe it was a bit too much to expect sharing it, but an offer would be good (if you had an umbrella :P). So my crossed fingers helped you ^_^.
Waiting for another report ;).

I'm 222. I talked with my girlfriend about it. She asked me how did SAS reacted when you told her about your feelings. She have also asked did you just said everything and run away?

These questions are quite good. Come on, give us some more details about such an important moment of your life ^_^.

Wow, good job, Radio! I give that a KITA!!!
Even if it didnt go the way you expected (I think thats why you think you fucked up), but at least she now knows that you like her. Now you should probably let her sort things out and sooner or later, she will tell you her reaction.

Lol, more details requested!

>>218 has a point.

However, at the same time, she hasn't mastered the art of looking at him. One step at a time.

>>222-223

1. I don't remember her saying anything after I told her, I guess she was just stunned. With her beauty, I'm sure tons of guys have crushes on her but simply don't tell her because they're too nervous to do so.
2. She actually had her own umbrella, and I didn't have one, mainly since I never look out our windows. So yeah, I couldn't use that as an excuse.

>did you just said everything and run away?

I didn't run away, I tried to segway it into getting an answer, but she was just too stunned or shocked (or both) to actually say anything, so I just kindly told her to have a nice week-end and headed home. If I stood there, I wouldn't have only missed the bus, but it would have let to an uncomfortable silence...

>>224

I have no other information to report. Live with it. :P

>>207 ID go out with you! lol...if you really fit the description you said....but anyway...that whole thing about you, being all super feminine and everything, is that really you though? or some image your mom told you would work? like, really, wouldnt want to put out a false image to someone, and they fall in love with that image, and thats not really the real you at all, so, just, BE YOU. as for the guy issue, contactttttt is good. gettin betting with the eye stares, but, course a smile would be very good too, lucky for you, hes a regular too

>>Radio

YOURE THE MAN NOW DAWG! KITA! do you communicate with SAS over aim? or anything like that? she know your number? man...gettin itchy for a report man...and it is understandable to leave after confessing, well, wat else could you do man? yeah, i suppose, wat we gotta do is sit and wait.

and, thanks for the encouragement guys, too bad, the occurance shall never happen again, and i dont know any girls at all

>>227 I am feminine because I like to be, it feels really nice. So I do not feel like I am putting out anything false. To be otherwise would feel strange.

It would be impossible for me to make the first move on him because it is not my nature and he is a customer. He comes across as cold, so I do not want to be annoying by being really sugary when he comes in. Eye contact and a nice smile is a start, but I do not think he would take a hint from it.

>>Radio

btw, valentines day is coming up (not that it matters to me or anything), chance? same with u too 207

>>207 you said he was the geeky type, how geeky is he? If he's really geeky, his coldness could just be because he's shy towards people too. I don't know as I wasn't there but do you think that might be why he seems cold? You don't have to act sugary or ask him out. Just talk to him. Maybe, once you talk to him, you find out he's not your type. But then again, it could also be a first step right? ★☆(~_^).v ☆★

>>Radio Otoko! keep heart!!!! (>_<)>

>>230

Very good advice, and with cute emoticons too!

>>Radio, if you didn't had an umbrella, then everything was ok. My girlfriend told me that she was also shocked when her friend told her about me. So it seems that it's a normal thing. Now she knows what you feel ^_^. Just let her make the next move. Now we should just shut up and wait. Damn this weekend is soooo long ><...

>>227 No, SAS and I don't communicate out of school. To be honest, I'm not too fond of talking to others in French (aww, I think that's a huge clue as to where I'm located, especially to #4-ch-ers). Also, I have no cellphone, so to avoid any interference from parents, I don't plan on giving her my phone number.

>>229 I won't see her much for Valentine's Day because we have some crappy obligatory course we need to take at the nearby university. There are high chances that we won't see her at all that day. :(

What's with everybody using >> so much... :P
It's getting to be quite confusing finding out what's a quote and what isn't.

-sigh- I recently had a girlfriend, but she was such a psycho-bitch. She recently came in during lunch and handed me a note telling me she was going to kill herself if I didn't give her more attention. Only problem being, I'm too fucking busy writing a fucking research paper, so I can't be arsed to do anything except research at the moment. Either that, or I could show her more attention and fail my class. Either way...

find her some help, tell her parents or someone

>>234

She's either emotionally manipulating you, or needs serious help. In either case, >>235's idea might help you.

>>234 she's gotta learn to deal.

>>234 you may lose her if you won't pay her enough attention. Is it a sacrifice you can afford?

>>220
ｷﾀｰ･゜ﾟ･:.｡..｡.:･゜(ﾟ∀ﾟ)ﾟ･:.｡. .｡.:･゜ﾟ･!!!!!
Whatever the outcome, be proud of yourself.

>>207
If he's a nerd type and he seems cold, then he's most likely as shy as you are, if not moreso. What is it about him that interests you?

duct tape really clears out the pore

Oh ffs. Is it usual for girls to invite a girlfriend along on a not-officially-a-date? It's really annoying, I mean, what am I gonna tell her, "no, your friend can please stay the fuck away"? :/

>>239 What interests me about him? I have never really thought about it. I just saw him one day, and was just attracted.

He does not come across as shy, just nervous and agitated sometimes. I asked my manager about him because she interacts with him the most and she laughed at me. She said he was ugly, prissy, high matanience, awkward and a dweeb.

Well, he did not come in today but maybe tomorrow...

Goddammit. Valentine's day is coming.

>>241 you go to dinner, the friend laughs a lot and seems like they are having a good time. Then after the friend says how boring you are while your love interest defends you! ~_^

>>241

you need a wingman, to take care of the extra girl.

>>243
tell me about it....

hi guys.

>>247
damn, thats some rant

>>243
indeed...
＿|￣|о

I don't trust women. Therefore I am single and plan on keeping everything I struggle for, for myself. It does not bother me to be alone for I do not feel as though I am missing out on anything.
What can a woman do for me?
Sex? Sex is not the answer to anything. She doesn't like it...and if she does then she is whorish.
A cook? I can survive on my own
Laundry? Ditto.
Conversation? What would I talk to her about? What? How my day went? No. Because she will try to change me and mold me into something she wants.

Women are not the answer. You have these feminists trying to make men appear to be foolish, halfwitted oafs. They have claimed not to need man anymore than a fish needs a bicycle.

That works two ways. I do not mean to say that all women are bad, just that I don't need one. I cannot be an emotional tampon nor do I need one.

>>250

Not to flame you, but it sounds like you desparately try o justify your inability to find a partner and cope with your loneliness.

>>250

Not to flame you, but flame.

>>251
>>252

You see, that is how it is. Everyone thinks they need someone. I'm interjecting an alternative viewpoint to this desperate, desperate idea that everyone NEEDS somebody. You really don't.

It is not capability I lack, it is interest and necessity.

And that scares people. That perhaps they are misguided....like salmon swimming upstream to spawn. Like the praying mantis who gets eaten....

Because when you look into the eyes of a "partner" you are looking into the eyes of a stranger.

PERHAPS....it is my fault. I have made myself comfortable without the need for a "partner". Perhaps I am out of the mainstream. Perhaps my lifestyle is extreme...I do not know.

I am alone....but not lonely.

Radio Otoko please post wonderful news today! everything seems so dreary for me, I hope you have something cheerful to report! no matter what, we support you!

Good report please! ☆*clasps hands in prayer*☆

>>253
your thinking of a partner in term of UTILITARIAN need. i mean, who knows, you might meet a woman who totally cant cook or do laundry, but ull love her anyway. its a feeling, which many people here want to experience but cant seem to get. for you, itll happen someday i believe, or mabye, has happened to you in the past, and youve just become emotionally scarred or something. im not saying you NEED anyone like, zomg, i need a woman to cook and clean for me and stay home with the kidz0rz. not to mention, the way u put them as, is very very masculine chauvinistic, which, is a bit ignorant btw. mabye if you talked to some women these days you could see that not ALL of them are the way that you described.

>>254 Whatever happens, I'll post it.

Hi people. Newbie here. Need some relationship advice. Thanks for your help!

Is it normal for those people who are having long term relationships, to have crush on others every so often?

>>256
Thank you Radio Otoko! Good luck!

Confused,
yeah i guess it is normal to have crushes on other people. just dont act on these crushes are else that would suck royally, just stick to the girl you have and you will be fine.

>>258
Nothing happened. :/

>>255

This is a battle between emotion and reason.

By logic I would merely need a partner to aid and assist in the perpetuation of my life functions and to make my daily routine more convenient. "love" is nothing more than sympathetic and parasympathetic physical reaction spurred by a need or instinctual desire for procreation. I do not view the world in Masculine and Feminine. Perhaps I am too austere in my emotional thinking but it is emotions that cause all of the worlds problems. Feelings and Beliefs. Not science and reason. I do not at this time desire procreation, and I am quite adept at self suffiency. At this time another person would not fare well in my equation. Besides, desire, however accepted is a sign of emotional despondency and abandonment issues.

In the modern world, you truly need no one.

>>260

nothing happened?! details requested!!!

>>261
youre human, its that simple, dont try and hide it and tell everyone youre an emotionally cold robot, cuz, you probably arent. I know someone like you, and, inside, he actually did fall in love with someone, and it was the creepiest and weirdest thing ever, because he talks and thinks exactly like you, but, even someone like him was capable of love, course, got rejected and all, but he was still capable of it. and, with a mindset like that, who would want to "procreate" with you anyway? mabye thats your problem

radio! ;_:

>>207
How about drawing a little heart on his receipt? :3

>>265
Better yet, your phone number.

>>263

Do not try to offer emotion or taste into an argument and then end it with a personal barb.

There are NO standards to human thought, only normatives and consensu. I am not a cold emotional robot. I'm quite happy and I do the things I enjoy doing. I just don't believe in love or anything else. I have actually tried to like women before, but found myself uncomfortable because I REALLY didn't like them. Some were fairly attractive, others were moderately common. I can relate to some of their personalities, but find myself lacking. Finally I said "Maybe I just don't like people that way. Maybe I'm just a really ardent individualist." So that's how I live. I find it satisfying that I don't need an emotional anchor or that I feel obligated to another person. My life is mine to live or lose. No one elses. No concerns, no frets. I don't need sex and while I don't dislike children, I see no need to have any. People place too much importance on relationships.
There ARE alternatives.

Me? I'm just a sober, asexual atheist who takes care of himself.

>>259
Thanks. Is it okay for me to be a female in this thread, while asking for a guy's opinion?

Actually I've been with my bf for 10 years now, met him when I was still in High school. He's very caring for me over these years, although I had realized in recent years that there are many things we are not in common of, and I can hardly see a future of us.

Although we've been seeing each other so often, we have less to talk about. We talked about common things like sports and news, but we never discuss about our inner feelings, our goals. We talk about practical things but nothing phylosophical. That's why I'm confused.

There is this other male friend of mine who we can talk a lot, almost everything, from office chitchat to phylosophy, hobby, etc. We have things in common and others different. But at least we are able to understand and listen to each other. I only known him for more than a year, but he's a very good friend of mine, intellectually. However, he doesn't like to talk about himself that much. Only thru bits and pieces he told me that I started to know more about him.

Despite the fact whether I'm having a crush on my friend, I'm just wondering if a couple would be able to talk about everything. Not only common topics on the surface, but also deep inside our hearts. When ever I start getting emotional, my bf would ask me not to think too much. He thinks all these phylosophical thinking that i've been going thru is a waste of time. However, thru these years he's been giving me very good advises and help which guided me when I most needed him. All these years I've been drowned by his care and love, but now I'm confused if I really love him.

Is it possible to have a relationship like that while having another close male friend who shares my intellectual feelings?

I'm confused because I don't know if I really love my bf or am I just relying on him. I'm confused because I'm not sure if I'm wasting both me and my bf's time or not.

Thanks for listen to me.

How does he feel?

>>268
How was the relationship in the early days? Did you have deep conversations with him, was it filled a lot of passion? Basically, why did you fall in love with him in the first place?

>>269

Sorry, I maybe misunderstanding you. Do you mean how does my friend feel?

Actually he's very nice to me, so does to everyone. But somehow, maybe it's only my imagination, I feel that we talk more deeply than he would to other people. We can sit and talk forever non-stop on many things. I feel there is something between us, more than friends, less than lovers.

As for my bf, we are just like normal couples in which I live with him over the weekends. We live like a married couple, but talk less. We do our own things separately, but occationally we go out together and enjoyed the time we spend together. It's like a habit to be with my bf, though I realized I never really understand him.

>>268

10 years huh? You're long past the "Infatuation and Attraction" stage of relationships and have naturally entered the "Uncertainty " stage. Heres what my relligion teacher, a certifiable expert on this kind of thing, had to say about this step:

1. You move into this stage automatically.
2. Its natural to begin to question the relationship, especially when infatuation meets reality.
3. Many people give up in this stage, thinking that questions and uncertainty mean it won't work.
4. It may be helpful for you to not date others so you can ask questions.
5. Do NOT compare this dating experience to others.
6. The grass is always greener on the otherside of the fence.

From what I can tell, your relationship is a mixture between exclusivity and uncertainty, and definitely prior to intimacy.

You, as a woman, are naturally worried about where the relationship is going, where as it sounds like your bf is a typical guy who's only interested in the what he gets out of the relationship. I'm not dogging on either sex, this is all a very natural process. In this stage of the relationship, you will both make mistakes and your uncertainty is most certianly a result of one of them. Sounds like hes put down his guard over the years and doesn't do the little things that you probably found made him attractive. You almost seem to take each other for granted, which is unfortunately not uncommon.

This line from this book we used by the same religion teacher (it was a huge section on the nature of relationships): "Men tend to stop listenting to their partners and women tend to stop asking questions and may become restentful", seems to sum of some of your problems.

Onto the relationshp involving more than one guy, it really depends on where you want to be. If you aren't exclusive, there is nothing wrong with dating more than one guy, but if you are exclusive then it is difficult to maintain a relationship between those two. The most important thing between both you and your bf is to not cheat, and at this point he might consider this cheating even if you don't.

My advice: if you've been with your original bf for ten years, keep it up. You are a victim of mutual attraction from another guy who is fresher to you, thats natural but keep in mind it can hurt your bf. Communication is the key, talk with him and ask him what he thinks about the nature of your relationship. Don't worry about your confusion, that is the natural order of things and if you talk it out I guarantee your stress will be relieved quite a bit.

Correct me if I'm over-analyzing and please don't get angry with me, this is only friendly advice from a guy who doesn't know jack about relationships but was educated by a guy who knows more on the subject than any other man I've met.

>>270

It's like love at first sight when I first met my bf. We met thru internet as friends, and later on went out for the first date. It was then we start dating naturally. I don't even know why I fell in love with him in the first place, it just happened. We have same hobby, same interests. I like the way he showed me a different world, broadened my view, and guided me when I needed advises.

Basically he is my first serious relationship. I had other puppy loves before, but he's the first serious one. It was during my high school days when I met him. For all those years in school, he's the only guy I see. Basically because I think I'm so deeply in love with him, I'm willing to take up all my time possible to be with him. I can see no one else but him. And because of that, I basically had no socially life other than the time spent in school.

Later when I met more people, I realized there's more than just a bf. I started to meet more friends, and there had been times when he realized I was interested in another guy. We ran into a big fight which nearly costed our relationship. We managed to put it together again and continue our relationship.

However, we start having arguments more often. Usually I'm being a whimp who just takes all his temper and say nothing, that it's all my fault, begging him to forgive me and give me another chance. But lately, I found I can't continue like that. I wanted to voice out. It's not always my fault. He has to take responsibility as well (obviously I didn't say that). It was kinda stressed at that time, but at least it's over now.

We did talk about planning for the future. However, I have my family to support, and he doesn't. At the current stage, I cannot affort to support both my family and the two of us. Also he's not ready to meet my family yet, after so many years. I started to feel that we have no future. And as I meet more people, I also started to feel that I can have a better life and relationship without him. But as we've been together for so many years, I treasure the time we spend together. I do not want to make a wrong move.

We hardly have any deep conversations, except for the recent time we analyse our plan for future. He doesn't want to take up responsibility, and always say I think too much. I mentioned to him that I wanted to plan for the future, and his excuse is either that we have no future, or I can leave if I don't like it.

Sigh...why am I still staying with him? It's like addicted to drugs, can't quit.

>>272

Thank you very much for your analysis and advise. It's a relief to hear that it's normal to feel uncertain at this point. I've been hearing from many friends that ten years is a whole lot of time, and I should treasure this relationship.

In comparison, I'm always like a kid in front of my bf, always being taken care of. Yet when I talk with my friend, I feel like a woman, or a grown up, that I would be taking care of others. It's the feeling between needing and being needed.

When I'm with my friend, I feel that I'm being respected as a person with unique idea. I'm being listened and understood.

With my bf, usually he doesn't like to listen to me. Just like what you have quoted from your teacher. I do ask questions sometime, but his response is "Don't ask. Just do it." One thing I'm most inspired with my bf is that somehow he's always right. Eventhough I may not understand or agree with in the first place, he turns out to be correct.

I guess it's now into the questions of why do I love someone and what is love? Or is there no answer to this question and I'm just over reacting?

Ah, so you're the type that let's her man think for her. Are you doing anything else but house work?

>>275

I'm working. Plus we only see each other 2 days a week.

>>262 Well, I saw SAS a couple times yesterday but the one time she actually saw me, she was with her friends and I felt like she was avoiding me. :(

>>277
she is probably still shocked, give it a few days, and if she doesn't come up to you, you need to go to her.

Just thought I'd post my own minor success...
Got a girl to agree and study with me, but with two minor annoyances:

1. Her friend's coming
2. It'll be at 9am (sleepy)

Hopefully it goes fine, but I dunno.
I'm kind of annoyed that the friend is coming and that I have to wake up at 8am if I want to eat breakfast and all that... There's my rant. :)

>>279
use a wingman.

>>277
GOOD LUCK RADIO! wish i could meet you. :(

>>280
Nobody I know will wake up that early.

>>277
Radio, don't worry! She can't just come and talk with you when her friends are around. I've talked with my girlfriend and she told me that it's true.

She may need some time, but I can tell you one thing: everyone likes to hear that someone loves him. It's a nice thing to hear. Even if you don't feel anything for a person, these words are like a tiny sparks that warms up your heart.

Just wait for a good time, especially when she'll be ALONE and try to talk with her. Not about the feelings, but about anything. I think that she had some time to think about everything and even if you start a normal chat, sooner or later she'll just tell you about her feelings. Probably she is dying to give you the answer (either yes or no), but you need a good place and ANY excuse to talk.

We are crossing our fingers. I'm leaving town for 2 days, but will try to check your progress asap. If you'll have any problems or new info, just let us know ^_^.

We are crossing our fingers for you.

Whatever happens Radio, you did great. I have my fingers crossed for you too! And keep your head up high! keep us posted!

DETAILS REQUESTED!!! （＾∀＾）☆☆☆！！！！

radio, dont worry i think you should just give her some time.

<33 radio

Radio, I just started reading your situation so I may not have a complete idea of what is going on. However, I do know that patience is the key. Just give her time to recollect her thoughts and the time will come when she'll give you the answer. Don't rush her. Anyways, I'm hoping for the best!

>_>

This won't work.

• SAS seems to be avoiding me. While I don't think I've done anything to deserve this, the once kind SAS-chan has become much colder.

• Apparently, the guy who was GOING to tell her to get back at me for no reason did something or will do something "that will solve all the problems". Sadly, I have no clue what the fuck it is and if it's been done already, this might be why she's avoiding me. Fuckers.

• The stupid grade 11 class who's having a fundraiser for their prom came up with the lamest idea for a fundraiser ever, a "WIN A DATE WITH 'x student' HERE" contest. I saw her enter the contest.

• MY STUPID FRIENDS FOLLOW ME AROUND EVERYWHERE AND SEEM TO BE DOING EVERYTHING TO NOT LET ME BE ALONE-- EVER. I see her walk around alone, but I can't say anything because those retards are always around me while the guy who's up to no good is probably doing whatever he said he would.

Damn, Radio.

This is a bad situation... I think the best move is to tell your friends to leave you the fuck alone for a bit and go talk to SAS. Thats what I think, at least...

Maybe she goes to 4-ch too!?

I am sorry Radio Otoko...but maybe she is not as sweet as she seemed. It is often that a person's true nature is revealed after this sort of thing. I am not suggesting to give up, but maybe treat her as she treats you.

radio,
i was afraid this was going to happen. 80% of the time, a premature confession freaks out the girl. the shock and the gravity of the confession scare girls. but have faith, try to follow up on this. first of all tell your friend to give you space, also tell the kid (aka the douchebag) to fuck off, he already ruined your plans, he will probably make things worse.

dont worry man, things always work out in the end

>>289 She doesn't go on 4-ch... that is, I don't think she does. >_>

I think I've found out what his plan is. And it's very clever.. IF you want to destroy someone's relationship. There is a Valentine's Day card trading thing at school. The cards will be delivered to people who are recipients on Valentine's Day.

What if that douchebag sends one under my name and classroom and writes nonsense? Do I sue him for identity theft? And most of all, what happens if this happens and she doesn't believe that it isn't me?

Goddamnit.

you don't sue him for identity theft, you beat the shit out of him.

>>292
rofl, ive done that before, and im doing it this valentines day to some douchebag (not for a girl), TWICE.....
dude, odds are, your handwriting wont be the same, also, she'll know its not you...considering, you just confessed like, 2 minutes ago. just be like, yeah, it wasnt me man...in a more, sincere way of course....

get her alone and try and clear things up. Have faith, but...a girl I confessed to turn cold towards me too. much the same way with SAS. In some ways, i think it's her way of helping me get over her and plus things do get awkward after something like this and if she doesn't love you back. However, it's good you confessed early as sooner or later, it'd explode. betters ooner than later.

>>288
i wish you two could get some alone time :<

I think most girls turn cold towards people they do not like. It's almost like a natural instinct. To me, it seems that they just move away and run from this fact because they don't want to deal with this uncomfortable situation. If your friends are always following you, why dont you tip them in on the situation so they can help you get some alone time with SAS?

>>292
Send her your own valentine, marked with a fingerprint?

Wire yourself up with a hidden recorder and confront him?

>>298 My first name has a spelling distinction from all the other ways of spelling my name. Mine is the most uncommon. Therefore, if the guy misspelled my name, I've got something to use against him.

Besides she has the same problem as I do (when it comes to names), so I wouldn't be surprised if she understood.

Radio, just get rid of your friends and talk with her!!! I told you that if you'll try to talk with her, she'll tell you what she feels. Come on! It shouldn't be that hard and it'll really help you. You won't be so confused after that cuz it'll all get clear. If she'll dump you, take it as a man, and if she'l laccept you, just be happy and don't care about idiots. I just came back home and I had to read about your problems. So tell your friends to just get lost even without giving them reasons and go talk with her. If you have enough feelings for her, you should do it. I'm counting on you.

radio i hope it works out!!

Make sure you talk to her before Valentine's day, and then you'll have the upper hand over the other guy no matter what he's planning. It won't look good if he tries something while you're still not talking.

don't give up!

Actually, the cards are given on the same day as they are sent. So I don't know if she got it yet or not.

hey hey hey...

RADIO! We need some new info!

I have nothing to report. orz

This is the second time I've confessed to a girl and haven't ever heard from her since. Way to fail. :(

whenever you fall off the horse you just get back on.

Try to TALK with her! You went through a lot. Don't just give up!

I don't know how many times I have to say it~~

is she still avoiding you?

Hmm.. Tommorow is Valentines Day... The best time to go TALK TO SAS! C'mon Radio... Just say 2 letters. H and I. Then, let her respond... or something.

>>311 It's more than two letters in French. Actually, I might not even be able to see her much at all due to something I mentioned a while ago... We have to go to the university in the afternoon so I won't be there when I'd regularly see her. :(

Oh well, happy Singles' Awareness Day to all.

awww :( so what do you plan to do now Radio?

I suspect she's actually taken. From what I've heard, the MVP from our school's basketball team is dating her. If anything, going any further would get me beaten down by the basketball team.

I just think I'll remain an acquaintance from now on and bump into her randomly once in a while. I don't think this will go anywhere, but I can stay strong and move on (yet again)...

Well..at least you can honestly tell yourself that you tried. It's better than not having done anything at all and wondering what would've happened if you did.

yeah, radio, seriously i once let a girl go, and man i regret it to this day. i still dont know if she was taken or not, but man i really wished i had the balls to asked.

There are no successes and failures. There are only successes and experiences. So just go on, and maybe try to talk with her one day.

and she didn't say anything to you about the fact she's going out with someone even after you confessed?

Well, she didn't go through with it. She dumped me yesterday. No shit off my ass...

Damn! Why is it so hard to talk with girls nowadays? Specially pretty ones! Sometimes its like I have a huge tag on my head that informs them that I'm a level 4 to their level 1. HOw do you talk with someone that already assumes that you've got nothing to offer? In case you're wondering about the levels...
Level 1 - Attractive and wealthy.
Level 2 - Attractive but not wealthy.
Level 3 - Not Attractive but wealthy.
Level 4 - Neither attractive nor wealthy. But has some sort of talent or skill.
Level 5 - Neither attractive nor wealthy. Can't do shit exeptionally well.

HOnest to god, some girls (the pretty ones) I knew rated people this way! It's just sad that they didn't factor, you know, basic human qualities like kindness, understanding and such...

There are no successes and failures. There are only failures and lesser failures!

Level 2 and 3 would be reversed in the past... still might/should be reversed.

just gotta level yourself up by gaining more experience points and gil

>>321
You sound like the gods bigest failure.
I don't ever feel like failing. I just have experiences. I'm trying to learn and be better each time. That makes me winner every time.

>>320
sounds like i got a big number 5 on my forehead, girls just ignore me these days

There is no number for me ><. I'm a bit attractive, not wealthy, good with computers and anime related stuff. Never had problems with girls though >.>

Anyone notice in >>320 when I typed the sentence: "HOnest to god, some girls (the pretty ones)I knew rated people this way!"

I typed the "HO" in the word honest in all caps? Which would exactly describe these girls I meant. Is that some sort of Freudian slip or somthing?

CONFIDENCE is the answer. You can be only mildly attractive and not at all wealthy if you have confidence. Girls want to know that you can protect them, and care for them. Moping about how girls don't like you all day is only showing me that you have no confidence.

On the other hand, be a genuinely nice guy for a long time and you may find that perfect girl too, but you still have to be a little confident.

This is why we dont have girlfriends. =p

http://www.youtube.com/?v=5HITeEV8y10

>>329
But according to this, hot asian chicks should be all over me unless a bix nood intervenes! However, this is not the case. What am I doing wrong?

stop trying to be asian

ちんちんみてまんまんおっき

anyone ever tried hypnotherapy to get over someone?

>>333

BE A MAN HULK, do it the hard way. You know, hard liquor.

tried that. didn't work. hard, soft, fruity. nothing :(

I'm not visiting this place that often anymore from the time when Radio Otoko gave up on SAS :(. It makes me feel sad...

nothing new, Radio?

this thread seems dead

God all of you sad people talking about girls. Look at it this way: You don't have to prove a damn thing to these women, but they have to prove they are good enough for you. REAL women worth having don't want some wishy washy nice guy. They want someone capable of being an extreme asshole without being creepy about it. This way they know exactly what they are getting and will be able to live with it.

Case in point. If you like a girl, if you think "Hey, not bad. Why not, hell I ain't got nothing better to do" Then go up...say "Hey My name is so and so, what's your name?" Then when she tells you her name say something like "cool, hey yer pretty cute you know that. Anyways, see you around, k?" Then the next time you see her just talk to her the same way you'd talk to a you haven't seen for a while. Then if you still kind of like her(you know she isn't too flaky or lame.) Say "Hey you doing anything later?" If she says no(She might claim to have a boyfriend or something, this could be a lie as all women are equipped with creep filters) say "you sure? Ok. Well, maybe next time." WITHOUT MISSING A BEAT. DO NOT BEG OR PLEAD OR WHINE. The NEXT TIME you see her, try it again. She will most likely say yes this time.

Also LEARN HOW TO PLAY THE FIELD. These 18 year olds are usually stupid and love drama games. Try someone a little older and a little more desperate. Like 29. RECENT DIVORCEES ARE SOFT TARGETS. CAUTION CAUTION CAUTION: Unless you like recent divorcees after being with them for a while watch out because they love drama and have crazy homocidal ex's. The benefit is that most of them have jobs and are looking for adventure. Another downside is kids. They may want you to be a replacement father. BEWARE.

Finally, LEARN TO PICK UP REBOUNDS. Good ol' sloppy seconds.

Let me put it this way, America never won a war by being a nice ass. We bombed, nuked, slaughtered, raped and pillaged to win most of our wars and all of our battles. NICE GUYS FINISH LAST FOR A REASON. This is because women want a guy who will grab a shotgun and go after a burglar if there is a break in or beat the ever living fuck out of someone who calls her fat ass.

I hope my rambling helps someone out.

>>338 wins the thread.

>>338

Yes, women are shallow whores.

SIGNED

Hah. This chick pretty much picks me up at a night club, asks for my number in 10 minutes, and texts me the very next day offering to meet up, saying she's free anytime. Then she hasn't written back for a day. How weird is that?

>>342

She found another stinger.

>>342

well it's only been a day right?

I tried to pick up a older girl (23ish, if that gives anyone a hint to my age...) at Barnes and Noble...
She punched me in the stomach and told me to go away. Am I a complete freak?

She literally punched you in the stomach? Ouch....What kind of clothing were you wearing, what do you look like? Details!!

Barnes and Noble 'study sessions'... good times

>>345
You probably did it wrong. If you had a bunch of manga, girly books, or something in your hand then I would probably punch you too for being creepy if I was a girl.

Plus some of these women DO want to be left the hell alone.

It is all in picking your fights. Planning your attacks.

If she had her nose in a book or had this "I'm here to look at books don't bother me" aura about her then...well..FAIL.

If a girl is sitting alone, by herself and looking out the window and thinking to herself "...oh god another year alone." Then you should come up and say something that doesn't sound like a come on. Like "Hey what's on your mind" or something. Just DON'T SOUND CREEPY. PICK YOUR TARGETS. It is like this. Pretend that you are a Marine Force Recon unit and you are cut off from supply. You are on your own and you have to have your wits about. Are you going to rush in on a heavily fortified well defended bunker? NO! That's STUPID! HOWEVER, if it was a lightly defended and isolated relay post or it was a bunch of lonely, scared and inexperienced conscript soldiers then BY ALL MEANS GO FOR IT!

Why is this so hard to understand? Women are not some unattainable thing. They are not goddesses, princesses, or queens. They are closet whores and normal people with breasts. They want what you want. Security, companionship, and the benefits of income. Only they expect YOU to provide it.

What you might want to do is hire a mercenary. You know a guy who can tag the ass and can talk you up for a girl. Just remember, he handles TACTICS. REAR END SUPPORT...this is YOUR FIGHT you gotta DO IT.

WOMEN!! KICK THEIR ASS!(Relationship and courtship wise, don't really kick their ass you will go to jail and be someone ELSE's target of opportunity)

>>348 you sound like a sane person!
I'm sure if I punched a girl because she tried to ask me out I would be convicted of assault instantly.

>>349

There is a double standard in the world get used to it.

Like in Domestic Violence the man always goes to jail.

Romance is dead and TV killed it.

>>349
In this world, it's automatically assumed that most guys are more perverted, creepier and have more power, both physical and social, than females. I've been told that the correct way of translating a unwanted guy hitting on a girl to a male situation, isn't by just reverising gender, but by a gay guy hitting on a straight guy. And unfortunately, I'd have to agree.

>>351
Ehrm, not justifying >>348's actions, merely stating why they're unfortunately understandable. I do not approve of people beating up someone who is asking them out, unless they're threatening that person's safetly. For instance, someone who doesn't take no for an answer and keeps following you like a hawk. Potentially getting rape or stalked is not good. Though the best option would be to call the police.

>>346
I was wearing an A-kon 16 t-shirt. As for what I look like...something like Densha Otoko except a taller, more overweight version. I didn't even really say anything too creepy......<< >>

what did you say?

>>353

was the imperial march playing at that time?
but seriously dude wtf. what a bitch she was.

>I was wearing an A-kon 16 t-shirt.

Herein lies the root of your failure. Was there an anime character on this shirt? When you wear it you are a freak to anyone who doesn't like or doesn't know about anime. A tall, overweight guy in an anime shirt is going to set of female nerd alarms in a 100 meter radius.

Oh, bloody hell, I just found an image of that shirt. http://homepage.mac.com/gihdora/A-Kon/PhotoAlbum71.html
Anyone else care to weigh in?

>>353

Dammit man. That was your first fatal mistake. Shirts like that will only attract overweight creepy fangirls who are so damn wapanese that it makes even the most hard core "otaku" cringe.

If you want a NORMAL girl, dress like a NORMAL person. THIS IS NOT HARD. t-shirt(NORMAL...no goddamn anime, smart ass slogans or anything...just a NORMAL shirt for a NORMAL person), jeans, shoes, and maybe a coat if it is warm. Being a little fat ass is ok for males. As long as you have a job, income, or can get a job before she finds out you are a bum THEN YOU ARE GOLDEN. Also if your hair is shaggy and nappy GET A HAIRCUT! You do NOT have to be a body nazi adonis to attract a woman. You can still be SOMEWHAT fat ass and get a decent girl as long as you are CLEAN. CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN. No dandruff, no foul smell, no messy clothes and CONTROL YOUR SWEAT AND BODY ODOR. THIS IS KEY.

"But mr. crazy man on the internet" you might say..."I still like this stupid shit, but I don't want to die a virgin. WHAT DO I DO!?" SIMPLE!!! slowly EEEAAAAAAASSEEEE her into your actual creepiness SLLLOOOOOOOWWWWLLLLYYYYY reveal it like it is something deep and that she didn't know about before. Women like a little bit of drama and mystery and by the time you are in an actual relationship with her she will already be nesting and will just put up with it like so many sad, sad, desperate women in the world who are trapped in crappy marriages/relationships. Let me put it this way. Dress up now so you can dress WAY DOWN and freely engage in flatulence around her later.

So in summary. Wear some NORMAL clothes next time, DON'T TALK ABOUT GEEK SHIT until you are actually in an actual relationship with a girl, and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE for the love of god DON'T SCREW IT UP NEXT TIME! Gawd...how hard is this...

>>357

and then you show her this message board and she and her brother gets mad at you. then she reads this board and realizes how much she means to you and you both get on a train and fly off to happiness as we cheer you on.

People overreact too much.
Every guy is not a god damn rapist.
You do not have a right to assault someone just because they offend you. You do not have a right to not be offended.

How the hell can you be offended by someone asking you out or trying to talk to you? That is a complement! Also, if a guy complements you it doesn't mean that he is automatically trying to get into your pants!

Maybe if women stopped trying to play the role of a victim when it suits them the world would be a better place. We could certainly do without the Lifetime movies.

>>355
Lol, yeah. I think I did hear the imperial march in the background.

Shit, forgot to take the "sage" out of the link field.

（　＾ω＾） yay replyGET
Wonder why I'm still paranoid about this... Probably because age=years without(ry

this is my first post ever. firstly i cant belive radio is got snaked, also what happened to 207. details requested!!!
my own rant is, that i'v been seeing this girl for like 2 months and it doesnt seam to be going anywhere. she always says that she dosnt want a bf right now, this is because at the time we met she got just broke up with her ex which she was dating for 6 months.
we like each other and are pretty close, but i want it to be more then that, should i wait longer or go for another girl (not that i have another lined up)???

Go for another one, I guess she isn't interested in you. Tell her to make a choice if you want to search for another one.

>>364 yeah but at least with her i got something, i figure its better to have someone then to have no one?

depends. I rather have no love than unrequited love. I would VERY much rather have that.

>>365

I disagree. I have a ex-girlfriend that still loves me, I'd much rather want her finally getting over me than to continue to hurt someone in the end I don't really love.

>>367

we are realy close right now and i feel it would ruin our relationship forever, wheres as if i think would wait a couple of weeks and then sorta tell her how i feel and, brake it off?

>>367

we are realy close right now and i feel it would ruin our relationship forever, wheres as if i think would wait a couple of weeks and then sorta tell her how i feel and, brake it off?

>> 363

you know, that's exactly how my relationship with this girl went. and then before you know it, she only sees you as a friend and you're screwed.

Guess you'll have to drop hints so you won't be seen as only a friend?

Don't die on me thread!!!

>>372
love is dead

my best friend is asking me who i have a crush on, it happens to be his ex and no way in hell im telling him

damn...he is a good guesser

Does it count if I'm ok with being single?

>>376 - Does what count?

does anyone think long distance relationship will work?? alot of people tell me that its not gonna work but some say that depends on the people....

i say 60-70% they dont work

i agree, the relationship is so far away and plus you cant see each other so whats the point of it??

begin in a relationship means spending alot of time with ur partner, so with that logic long distance relationships dont work, it realy depends on when ur gonna see her next or how often u see her

While I'm very much a hopeless romantic and wish to believe with all my heart that love counqers all, I must sadly report that all instances of long-distance relationships that I've been witness too have failed.

One succeded, but that whole "long-distance" thing lasted all of four months or so, and they moved in together.

KEEP HOPE ALIVE! (But don't be a fool, eh?)

>>379
one could say that about relationships in general

Last night I realised that the girl that I've loved all these years died (metaphorically) a while back. Which is probably for the better considering it was unrequited love.

>>384

Happened to me not to long ago. I guess it helps you move on. I dont know though, ive yet to find a girl in which I can seriously like. Alot of the girls ive come to know are just party heads, and very high maintenance. Ones that wear too much make-up, really obsessive about clothes...you know those type of girls. Which I generally dislike.

Its really hard to find the nice simple girls now a-days.

>>385

I agree. This is one of the reasons I've been getting by even though I've been single for quite some time now. It seems like the few girls I think would be the effort are taken, and everyone else is just so high-maintenence or so completely into things I'm not.

I met a girl recently, whom I've become good friends with. I didn't realize she was single at the time but now she's dating another friend of mine. At first I was upset/jealous, but then I started spending time with the both of them and realized that we probably wouldn't have made a good couple. She and her boyfriend are very much into going out to bars everynight, something I'm just not that into. I go along with them sometimes, but usually when it's a group of us so I don't feel so awkward.

Nevertheless, I have met girls who get along fine with my quirks, so I know they exist. They just all have boyfriends. ^^;;;

I've been thinking alot latley whether i want to try long distance relationship but its very true what you guys said.. whats the point of it? your so far away and cant even see each other. i mean just now i havn't heard from her for 3 weeks so i dont think it will work, its best to stay good friends. sometimes i really wonder what a relationship is like cos i have neen single for my whole life at the moment ＿|￣|○" most girls i know are those "cool" types, i say hi to them and dont even get a reply ~~" by the way... if you have a dream... do most girls think your immature or something??

I don't know about the long-distance relationship, can't really say that if it's ever a good idea or not. However, I have a friend who's been in one for 7+ years, and is better off than when I first met him... even though he laments here and there about not being able to talk to her.

As for hating to be single: yeah, I do hate being single, but that is what I made of myself... an existence of loneliness. I made myself this way, and this is the way I shall stay. Unfortunately, it's not that easy, for me at least, to want to continue to stay single. Even though it was, at the time ( and still is ), considered "not really one", the experience of spending time and effort with the opposite gender, has ripped the ignorance of relationships from my character sheet. I can no longer look at my apartment and say "yeah, I'm single... who needs others?" Now, it's more like "well, shit" than anything... but I'll continue my course to stay single... not for that crap known as "the one" or, more expanded "the one for me"... because there is no other reason why I should not be.

>>387

Depends on the level of shallowness and other factors of the girl themselves: some thinks it's nuts to dream, others think that it's good to set a goal and whatnot. Unfortunately, there's too many variables and whatnot to work with, but basically there's a wide range of answers to that one.

hmm i see! thanks for that!~

most girls i know think having dreams are immature people or something ＿|￣|○" this girl i like is the only one that doesn't make fun of me because of my dream..

i don't think i've ever met a person that thinks having dreams is immature. foolish maybe but not immature lol

maybe i am just unlucky that i met those type~"~

btw if a girl ask you out... does that mean anything?

depends what you mean by ask out. like on a date or just to hang out? she could see you as a brother or something.

well... shes just returning some stuff she borrowed... but last time when we met, she dragged me to buy books with her and i bought her lunch. hhmm mayb just me thinkig to much ~"~

that doesn't really lean one way or another. that could be interpreted both ways.

really?? well i will just see what heppens later

hmm i just messaged the girl to see if shes free on wednday becasue apparently in the city there is going to be fireworks so i'm hoping i can ask her if she wants to go watch the fireworks... but maybe she doesn't want to go >"<

Gahah, she does it again.

Me "Yeah so next week let's go to [....]" (awesome date spot)
Her "Ok ^____^"
Two days later
Her "Oh btw I invited two of my girlfriends along, hope you don't mind ^____^"
Me "...." %#^&*$#%^&@

Give-up time?
Also, bumping this thread so someone can 400GET.

Ouch, that must suck. But I dont think you should give up... just yet.

Bumping as well. Eheh.

sigh..... I don't know if its sad cuz I'm alone or its sad that I'm posting here =P

my parent finally left for Hong Kong for a while leaving me in canada a house/5 floors of emptyness... normally I would be like w00t, but now the house is just slient,

I'm a 18 year old Canadian male,
been though 6 relationships to date,
but lol ya know sometimes I think I know what those people mean by its easier to stay single if you have been single all along verus if you have dated before, before you date you don't feel like anything is missing or it can be replaced by gaming, anime, studying, etc... but few things can fill that void....

lol I need a beer (or probably not a good idea)

*woo! 400th post! xD

anyway it turned out she never replied me back and stil we dont know when we are meeting. I'm also waiting for a reply from a girl that lives miles away from me! *sighh!~~"

>>399 i know whats its like being by ur self at home cos i know that silince and quietness at home! lol a beer is not the best idea! go watch a movie or do something on ur spare time! or even better jsut bum around 4ch xD

>>399
I say, blast extremely loud music as you lounge around the house.

And on the subject of dating, I myself believe that if youre single, youre single, and if youre dating someone, youre dating. Theyre two different experiences.. Both with their pros and cons. Being single means you can basically do what you want and stuff, without someone there to be like, sorta nag at you in a way. But if youre in a relationship.. theres that whole "love" thing.

So theres my nonsensical ramble for today.

>>401 (sorry I don't know how to do that blue thing please teach me XD)

ya I know what you mean hmm I guess I'll rant a lil last winter/spring I was in a well not soo great relationship (she wanted me purely for physical reasons and I didn't want that so I ended it) afterward in summer I dated again but I just can't get the feeling out of my mind that I was being used so thus before anything got too deeper I sorta politly ended it with that other girl saying I wasn't ready yet and I don't want to hurt you she understood and was like but when you are ready if you ever wanna date again gimme a call

I never dated since... I still feel lonely at time but I guess that is my fault XD but I still don't think I should be dating I guess... dunno I have a weird life or I guess everyone goes though that as well.

Man being fucking single sucks, I just left a short lived relationship a month ago, and before that not much else happened, a friend of mine is a total friggin tease and drives me off the wall, and so do afew others.
It sucks, but what can I do :/

^ ^
masterbate?

errr kay I'm probably gonna get called a lair or something

first I'm not gonna say I never masterbated nor will I say I will never do it again

but seriously for some people after a person as gone to a certain length in a relationship, well you sorta grow outta it

just like how I now find porn boring... I mean its the same shit over and over again...

basically what I'm trying to say is if a person lives in a hole all his life watching the shadows that appear on the wall its gonna be the coolest thing for him, but once he leaves that hole and sees the real world, then gets thrown back into the cave, watching shadows ain't what it used to be once you've seen the rainbow (sorry for using bits of Plato's "the allegory of the cave")

I am giant vagina when it comes to women. I am a freshman in college, and I am sitting terrified that I am going to ask a girl I really like out. I have asked out few girls out before, but I didn't care about the girls. They were just challenges me and my friends gave each other to pass time during our 'study sessions' are Barnes and Noble. I asked out a girl once, and got shot down. It didn't really bother me, it was a random girl, I didn't fucking care if she said yes or no.

Now I am in college. And now there is a girl I would without a doubt care if she said yes or no. I have never felt such a strong feeling for someone in my life, I also never felt such a terror in my life. I am very shy, I have an inferiority complex, thats why I took up the drums (Beatles reference). I have been taught that every action has a consequence, and it doesn't help that I am a pessimist.

I digress. This girl, she is my biology lab partner. I am guaranteed to see her once a week. She is our college's marching band is a fan of our basketball program as am I. Without a doubt, she considers me a friend, well at least I hope. Our lab is the last lab of the day, ends at 9:30pm, and I walk her to her room after class. However, I just see this as coincidence, since we both finish the assignment at the same time she being my partner and all and she her dorm is on the way to mine. We both like have similar interests (movies, music, love for the school's basketball team). She too plays an instrument; she is our marching band and was able to go with our beloved basketball team to the NCAA Tournament games. However, fate being ironic, decided to upset our team and she had to come home early, but that allow me to see her. In fact, when I saw her, when she got back, something inside of me said, 'you need to ask her out.' and this is where I am right now.

So, when, where, how...what the hell should I do? I am too nervous to think/to act. I think when the Perfect Situation comes, if it comes, I will recognize it and wuss out. I need to stop ranting, its 2:45 am and I have class at 9.

wow. damnit. i just dreamt about someone i had a massive thing for a year or two ago. someone i haven't seen since back then, and am unlikely to see ever again, in reality. i suppose i'm not over him.

>I am giant vagina

the size of a hallway.

>>406

Though seriously.

You're waiting for the perfect moment. Don't wait for it. Just do it. If you wait for the "perfect situation" to occur you'll be 95 years old and still waiting for the "perfect situation." THEY DON'T EXIST. Better to try to MAKE a good situation. When she's not busy, ask if you can talk privately, and ask her out without vibrating or acting like a wuss. Just ask to see her privately somewhere, and ask her. The worst that can happen is she ties you up and whips you for a few hours before cutting your balls off and dipping you into a vat of iodine.

I know how it is when you like a pretty girl and you feel too embarassed to ask her out. Just ask yourself three questions constantly and reassure yourself. 1. Is she a good person? 2. Is she someone you could see yourself with a month or two down the road? 3. Is it better to just keep it at Friendship, if circumstances don't permit a deeper relationship? If those questions can be answered properly, then do it. NOTHING BAD will happen. She might turn you down. She might say, "Oh hey sure, how about Saturday?" You'll never know and you'll kick yourself in the ass if you never ask. And you'll never gain any confidence unless you try. Even if you fall flat on your face, you'll know how or how not to ask the question.

But for gods sake never let a turn-down or a heartbreak fuck you up. I let that happen and threw away three years of my life. Just get over it and don't keep asking yourself "what if" or "I shoulda coulda woulda", or you'd have learned nothing from your experience. "Take it like a man", and all that shit.

Hope this was helpful.

I agree with >>409 perfect moment isn't for waiting, you have to act to get it. if you never experienced being shot down by a girl, its better if you try it cos you would know what its like but i must warn you its not a good feeling, the thing about being shot down is you must get over it ASAP otherwise it just drags your feelings down and you will feel even worse. I'm not trying to scare anyone here but just a warning about it! currently I'm waiting for someone i really like and i properly said that so many times xD anyway have some confidence!! you can do it!! ^^

>>406

Don't wait for the perfect moment that never exist if you want to ask her then just do it before its too late.

If you try to wait for the perfect moment you are only going to end up regreting it after you missed your chance.

With that said I'm not saying just randomly go up and ask, you have to well wait for the mood or chance to ask properly but that doesn't mean wait for the perfect moment basically

You should try to act quick before its too late.

>>406

Don't wait!!
Girls are usually sensitive... she can feel that there is sth going on.

Girls usually do the waiting, we are actually waiting for you to do the first move. Try to talk to her and really pay attention to the small details of her life. Make her feel that you care for her and is interested in her.

Oh.. and look her straight into the eyes when the moment comes, then ask her out!!!

Thanks for the advice. I was reading my little rant, and man I really must have been stressed out. I had to write a history paper and a physics lab (in fact I had to do the lab twice, since I messed up the calculations). When I am really stressed out and left alone to hear my thoughts, well lets say things can go nuts. As of now I am far more calmer (skipped my morning class to get a extra hour of sleep and I eat a full meal for once). I'm hoping to ask her out by tonight for a date on Thursday. I have leave campus for the weekend, so I can't plan anything for the weekend. If I can't find her today, I will probably ask her out Monday after lab. Anyway thanks for the help, I'll try to keep you updated on my progress, if I get time to post (I am sitting in history lecture right now). Again thanks for all your help.

goodluck!!!

moichido

GOOD LUCK!!!!!
I wish to hear ur good news :)

Don't freak out or act weird in front of her though, give her a good impression!

Way to go!

Busy, I am way too busy.
I was able to see her at the dinning hall, as she was leaving while I was eating. I quickly ended my meal, and i hurried to catch up with her. Our dinning hall has two different exits on opposite sides of the building, and I chose the wrong side. orz

Awww, at least you tried^^

if you haven't already though try to get her contact/phone/msn/ for ummm "study purposes" XD and do some small talk after you ask about the lab to get to know her more likes/dislikes, and maybe just casually ask her out to lunch or something to start with then go from there

Awww man...

TEXT MESSAGE HER if you get her phone number.
It works really well, believe me.
But don't flood her inbox though...

And then when you two start getting pretty familiar, then you can start like calling her at night and start those "night time" chats. Seriously that will be a great leap!!

Good luck! :)

texting wont work, they see each other at least once a week, i say next time u see her ask her out to lunch or somthing then working your way from there

actualli i think Text message is better, cos u at least can talk to her but never double send, reply when she replies and if she doesn't reply then leave it, or u can ask for her email! GOOD LUCK ﾟ∀ﾟ

the only problem with text and email is that well its not instant contact and also since its just word you won't get stuff like the tone of her voice or hints/ stuff like that, as in you won't have as much time to adjust accordingly to the situation.

your right but you usualy start from text messages or email then later start from phone calls. like you can ask "hey do you want to talk on the phone? its easier then typing messages all the time", really depends on the girl actuali

there are no set rules on "first u start texting then....",
its basicly whatever works, i think the best thing u can do if ask her out to lunch or somthing, basicly where u just see her more often, and this will allow for you to get to know her better, text thing is somthing quick and for people that u dont see on a regular bais, but then again i never use sms unless some one texts me

personally depending on where you are the situation changes like in Japan most people text msg each other a lot.

but if you are in North America or Europe I think mostly people either use a msging system or phone.

ya personally I would try Msn or Msging system since it also gives you the option of Webcam and voice chats, for times when you want it.
hmm back on the topic of being a single rant thread

ya know life is messed sometime I'm happy with my freedom of being single and no longer tied with the strings of relationship.

Yet at other times, espeically when my friends talk about their perfect relationship or when I'm out and I see a lot of couples, part of my wishes I hadn't broken it off last summer. Part of my wishes I still had someone I could rely on, someone to talk rant to, someone to comfort and to be comforted by.

Sigh I wish next year would come then I can finally move into Residence at University and maybe start a new life

I guess I'm really lame eh?

lol thats normal, some people prefer to be single but some people preger to have a relationship. the good thing about being single is that you can do what ever you want without someone stuck on you, but the good thing about relationship is that you can be with someone without beeing by your self.

>>427

I know how you feel but I guess you can't always have the best of both worlds, or I guess you could depending on how close and understanding your partner is.

no luck

sorry to hear ~"~

my life of nothingness seems to come back to me.... i feel like i lost something but cant tell what it is~"~

>>432
lol the feelings of nothingness in our lives I think is something everyone in this single rant thread shares

and after joining 4-ch for a few weeks now I finally found out why this board appeals to a lot of people and why 2-ch got so famous, having the ability to post anonymously has allowed me to post a lot of aspect of life I haven't be able to share with other people^^ it really takes the weight off my chest I guess.

anyhow back to topic
The feelings of nothingness and something missing is a feeling most of us here share, you should try to fill it up with something even if its only temp solution. I use biking, studying, and photography to take up my time^^ I used to do gaming but I found out that only lead to more drama espeically if its an mmorpg lol. So rather than sitting here and reading this thread go outside and do something spring is here and the summer is coming, everyone should really go out and look for something to do because before you know it, time flies and you will end up regreting the time that has been wasted.

Regret is but the past trying to tell you not to waste the future and something not to be repeated. If you stay in the regrets of the past you will just end up regerting more as the future and present past you by...^^

lol I got off topic again sorry

nice kopipe

>>433 your so right! somehow i enjoy being on 4-ch although most of us are just being anonymous. but somehow i have lost my intrest in girls for some reason, seems because in the past i been tricked by girls to many times that i properly just cant be bothered going for it anymore. somehow i think the girls i met are just using me for something..... well anyway i'm gonna try and find something to do rather then sit here all day reading the board!~ you guys should do the same! I'm using my time on my movies now xD! doesn't make me think that much when i work on my movies!~ find something to do and get stuck on it and you will find you life more intresting ^^

i'm lonely

>>434

can anyone translate that? sorry I don't know japanese XD

>>437

its ok we all are lol (thats why we are here)

hahaha yeah xD!

>>438
If it's copype, it's not really important. Just some random usually unrelated rant copied and pasted in.

oh actually I tranlated some of it and its actually related

it was something about this rant about
a guy going to a new school
something about a cute girl
something about telling her he likes her and then something about regert

sorry my japanese skill = ewww

could someone translate it though? it does seems pretty interesting.

>>441 i am very bored now so i translated >>434 copipe :P

line 1 totally agree with you.
line 2 by the way,
line 3 i went to a bar with my old friend the other day
line 4 we went to the same kindergarten, elementary, middle and high school
line 5 but since we go to different colleges, it was the first time to see her in almost year and half
line 6 so we had so much to talk about. we kept talking and talking.
line 7 then, i noticed it was already midnight, so i was gonna take off.
line 8 but she was so drunk.
line 9 i never realized she was such a bad drinker.
line10 so i had no choice but take her home.
line11 on the way, she threw up many times, but i managed to get her place somehow.
line12 after having put her on bed, i exhaustedly sat down on the floor.
line13 then i looked at her sleeping face.
line14 i noticed she became very pretty while she was away.
line15 that moment i felt she was not just a friend but a woman first time in my life.

wooww this reminds me of this movie i saw where he took a drunk girl to a hotel xD Details Requested!

>>443
would that movie be My Sassy Girl by any chance?

i was thinking of the exact same thing !~

>>443
lol that sounds very much like My Sassy Girl XD
except the childhood part

I never thought kopipe would receive such a warm reception