I'm a 17 year old girl and I'm afraid to start dating because I honestly don't know what guys expect from girls.
What I'm asking is, what is it that guys like about girls, and why?
I'm sick of getting the same answer from all of my peers("sex") and I don't have any male friends close enough who I can ask. Help me out, 4-ch?
>>1
There are guys who act like "chicks" and chicks who act like "guys," so there isn't anything you can say about all members of either sex except their reproductive attributes.
Don't try to anticipate another person's needs, or you'll make them feel like you're trying to dominate or smother them or that you're not interested in the person as an individual. Maybe you want to be dominated yourself. In that case, just present yourself as a vulnerable, tasty piece of prey.
Don't lay your cards out on the table until you're absolutely sure he's the kind of guy who can take care of your needs. Keep your options.
>In that case, just present yourself as a vulnerable, tasty piece of prey.
I've seen better advice yet!
I've found myself asking sometimes... Why the hell do girls like guys. I guess we are pretty much the same.
>>52
That is referred to as a false causation ... oh sorry, you asked me to speak English :(
hmmm. when it is about becoming better at english, I'll always want to know. Please enlighten me about what you mean with 'false causation.' are you talking about the subject matter or about a grammar/sentence structure/wrong word?
You are sayi that a rape victim is a prey, therefore a prey is a rape victim. That's like saying that a potato is a vegetable, therefore all vegetables are potatoes
Whatever you do, just don't come off as a slut to people, it's just what idiotic sex-driven teenagers think is "in".
I agree with >>46
A lot of college guys are just in it for the sex, so you need to get to know a person first. My ex was a complete mystery and seemed like a "..." person. But once i went to his house for a party, and he turned out to be a very loud gamer... so looks can be very very decieving!
You could pull of a Densha Otoko, i'm sure the lot of us here are willing to advise you :3
>>55 I am saying that presenting oneself as prey may lead to becoming a rape victim. Which obviously is a small chance, but I hoped to show that presenting oneself as prey is stupid.
Repeat: playing pray is stupid. Don't do it.
>>56, that's perhaps a difference between the USA and the NL. Or we're having a misunderstanding. Sure guys want sex, but they also want love. But its more 'manly' to say that you want the first. There really are a lot of guys that know how to properly prioritize. Btw, did 'he' become your ex after you realized he was a loud gamer ;) juss kidding.
whoops. that should be prey. sry
>>55
You can present yourself as "prey" and remain relatively safe if you have confidence in yourself. Women do it quite often, especially in places where that kind of thing is appreciated such as nightclubs, concerts, sports events, and downtown urban areas .
>>59 Sure you can, but you'd be in a short line to prove Darwinism to the rest of the world.
>>61
The great things about "society," "humanity" and "civilization" are how much they guard against Darwinism.
But.. What's the point in presenting yourself as "prey"?
Could someone define properly define "prey" in this context? Sexual prey? Status prey? What?
Isn't that only useful for one-night stands and such?
If someone's attracted to you mainly for the excitement of the catch, isn't that person damned likely to grow weary of you and try to find the next exiting catch soon?
good point. do we need to define prey? The purpose of prey is to be eaten.
This thread is terrible.
This is what you need to know about dating:
The goal of dating is to find a sexual partner that you are comfortable with. There are men who play the dating game because they think they can pay for sex at a premium (discount for bulk purchases) and women who date only to get someone else to pay for dinner and a movie. You want to avoid people like that.
Still, dating is about sex, so if your not ready for sex, don't date.
"Goal" and "finding" are important words and should remind you not to have sex on the first date. Spend some time getting to know the person.
Also, men will respect your right to say "no" more if you pay half. Say you want to from the outset and if your strapped for cash suggest something cheep and don't accept expensive dates. It's not that most guys will rape you, it's just if you feel your not ready they will resent you less. It also changes the dynamic in a way that makes guys more patient. If they pay for everything they will feel almost like their on a "DatingSim" style timetable, only shorter because highschool (or even college) guys have less access to funds than the protagonists in those games.
Lastly, if you really don't see yourself being sexual with some guy, tell him. If you do, likewise. Be clear about where you stand. If your a virgin and are afraid it will hurt he needs to know. Not on the first date but before you have sex.
Good luck.
>>66
Replace "sexual partner" with "life partner" and I agree.
Sex isn't the only thing everyone wants from a relationship.
>>67
I'll have to agree with you. Not all men are the same having only a sole interest in sex from a partner. A relationship will only last if both parties have an interest in each others personalities.
It's not about who spends what on a date or expecting sex for dinner.
Most of the responses here have been very immature and I hope >>1 doesn't get disillusioned by what she has heard here. Don't be afraid to date just be wary of who you date. Get to know the person who are going out with. If you try a daytime date first at least you have time to talk and figure out if you really like the person or not and there is less chance of a sexual encounter plus you don't really have to call it date when it's the daytime.
Don't allow yourself to be pressured into anything you don't want to do just take it all at your own pace if the guy likes you he'll wait for you and if he doesn't he was just a prick in the first place.
OK enough preaching for one post ;-) ttyl
why do guys like girls...
luckily you don't ask why don't guys like guys (most of the time) lol
It's important to remember that if you present your self as the "prey" archetype for long periods of time around the same person you might find it difficult to step out of that role if you are taken advantage of. This among other reasons is why its very important to give an honest display of your personality as possible, otherwise it will begin to become a strain on your psyche.
if they can explain it, leave them.
you can't explain love--
I like girls who will take a shit on my face.
The goal of dating is to find someone who you can get along with well enough to stand living with them for the rest of your life since it's a lot harder socially, financially, and for men to have sex, than any other way of living.
That's basically how anyone retarded enough to [b]look[/b] for a relationship without first explaining what [i]they[/i] want from it would say. In other words, don't you have anything better to do with your life other than please a man? Why do you care what they want? Why don't you choose to be yourself and not fail like most of the world? Someone who's actually interested in [i]you[/i] will tell you what they want from life, and then you can see if you match their desires.
Guys are looking for, at least I am, (other than sex) just the perfect girl. Don't ask me what that means, because it's different for every guy. But trust me. Somewhere, there is one for you. And when you find him, you'll both know.
However, I can give you a quick overview for most guys.
Guys like girls that are beautiful. Sorry, but that's the truth. And it's not so much a tits/ass combination as we like to make it sound. Hell, it's not even completely a verbal thing. A lot is the way you carry yourself. The way you walk. The way you speak to people. How you emphasize your words. Ever hear a guy talking about a girl when he has it bad for her? Ever notice how he says rediculous things like "I absolutely love the way that she says my name." or "One of the best things about her is the way she smiles when she's confused, like she is almost amused by what you said, just because it didn't make any sense." or "I think the best thing about her is when she laughs, her eyes start to water, no matter how little she is laughing."
Here's a tip. As soon as he tells you "You are beautiful," which he should do if he is trying at all (if he isn't, look out), believe it. He's not lying to you. He's not trying to make you feel better than you should. He means it.
Do this. Always talk to him. Whenever anything is bothering you. If he seems uninterested, maybe he isn't looking for what you are. If you shut him out though, you may not get a second chance.
There's more, but I could write a fucking encyclopedia of this shit.
>>76
keep writing... i myself am interested in hearing what else you have to say
Beauty (Art, lol) is in the eye of the beholder. When it comes to looks or aesthetics (Redundant?) it's really a matter of preference. A man may find a woman with acne all over her face attractive (I don't) ... Or it may just be lust and he needs to get a nut... That's not to say the same doesn't apply to men, a girl may find a three hundred pound man attractive. As 76 stated its also a number of other things that appeal to a person, but when it comes to beauty (And I repeat myself) it matters what that persons specific preference is when it comes to that.
But I digress and shit. Girls like Boys because their mammalian hormones tell them too, so they can reproduce and keep the human race going... That's why fags and dykes must be exterminated... They're... unnatural... Hahaha, joking (To some extent)... I agree with 76.
lmao @ 78...
i agree with 75 and 76
but 76, a relationship goes both ways, so as much as ur answering her question, it is half of the answer for relationships.
>>76 As soon as he tells you "You are beautiful," which he should do if he is trying at all (if he isn't, look out), be prepared for some dicking because he's trying to get laid.
Fixed
76. i can't speak for other guys, but i can say i'm looking for that ideal. i don't think i'll ever find it. and i'm ok with being single for life. that ideal to me - isn't just about looks - it has a lot to do with intelligence (academic at the phd level), common sense (most females lack this), and an ability to restrain emotion (stop crying bitch). most females are not very practical and too emotional and retarded... anyways..
I think women often have another type of 'common sense' than men. Which has its own intelligence.
Guys, don't think too much, you are spoiling the channel. and I agree with >>80 to a certain extent.
I believe there are three criteria for liking a girl: 1.intelligence, 2.looks, and 3.something the korean word "chakjae" conveys. Chakjae has many meanings, as when someone is genuinely nice, obedient, morally correct, reserved, not self indulging, usually virgin, etc,etc,etc. In English it's something like "nice girl".
So out of these three criteria, girls either have it or don't. Although I'm a perfectionist, a girl doens't require all three. Each combination of traits generally fits a certain stereotypical personality. (As in all girls who are 1 and 2 take advantage of men and usually get what they want.) Ok, now if someone cares to do some thinking, anyone could figure those personalities out.
When I and my friends get together, they're always talking about girls (i'm not really fond of talking about girls but that doesn't mean i'm not interested). If it's not about sex they're looking for, it's superficiality, mostly on the looks. But not all guys are like that, it depends on the individual. I'm not looking for anything in a girl but i'd really be grateful if a girl catches my attention, i'm still looking for an unknown attraction which I never found. I don't know if it grows or if it just pops up but i'm working on both. :D
girls who like it in the butt are the best
thats no where near fair ... i'm a loveing, caring individual that is very attractive though more modest then could ever imagine and the only thing i want in a girl is to love and be loved ... please dont lose site of whats so growingly becomeing a fad you losers... love will not die, it's only getting hiddin but recent judgemental standards
I like a girl that can whip my ass. Just somethin sexy about getting the shit knocked out of my.
Becoming Densha Onnako is the best advice yet. That would be freakin awesome.
>>81 harsh standards
What will you do with a woman like that?
I've met guys who actually like when I talk about the most random things and feelings.
Guys usually do enjoy randomness but common-sense is still compulsory.
hay guyz why do we drink water?
Not for the same reason why we fuck girls...
>>92
That's the most intelligent thing you've ever said.....even then that sounded somewhat stupid.
>>94 No, you fuck men dressed as women.
To me, thats not the same.
>>95
That was supposed to be our little secret.
Anyway, wear one of those little black dresses next time and shave your damn legs.
Lol