In this thread we talk about the manga NHK Ni Youkoso!
> Japanese shut-ins, loli h-games and conspiracies, oh my!
Hooray for Jinmen acquiring this one! Two chapters released so far. Haven't compared their translation job to "the other one" but I doubt it could be worse!
As I recall, Evil Genius has a strong fan/staff base in the netherlands. So, before you run around calling groups/people ego whores or whatever you're getting off on. Chill, realize no one cares what you think, and consider the objective viewpoint. <3 Idyll.
The objective viewpoint that they're translating stuff that is already licensed in the language they are translating into, and that they themselves could buy just as easily as anyone in the US? The objective viewpoint that they are blatantly violating fansubbing ethics, which is largely what allows fansubbers to keep doing what they do even when it's technically illegal?
If they were translating into Dutch I wouldn't say anything, but where you happen to live really have very little do with any of this. And neither has wheter or not anyone cares what I think.
Quit your crying, bitch.
>>273
that is a good way to admit that the other guy in an argument is right.
arguing on the internet lol
By telling a crying bitch to shut his shithole? Um, ok. Bitchboy.
can't you all just shut up?
By failing to answer an accusation and just thinking swearing makes you win the argument.
This is the grown-up internet. Please grow up if you're going to be posting here.
Umm, I was wondering, which manga/novel came first, Genshiken or NHK?
NHK (Novel) - First published January 2002
Genshiken - First serialized June 2002
>>278 why should I seriously answer a crying internet bitch? or care about winning an internet argument with a random retard? lol :)
>>281
you're the only one left arguing, dude.
No, just stating I'm right. It's not like I waste any real effort on random internet nobodies.
>>283 is trying so hard it's almost funny.
Almost.
Here's a quarter, kid. Now run along and stop bothering the grown-ups, OK?
Hey, it's an obvious case of Last Word syndrome! Let's see how long we can make him post replies!
On second thought, let's not.
This manga deserves a better thread.
When is it coming out? I need more sob
I'll curse TokyoPop until my final breath.
Since I'm French, what do you think will be better:
-to buy the NHK japanese manga on yesasia
-to buy the Tokyopop once it will be out
-to keep my scans, and pray for a french licensing
Chapter 24 cover... (*´Д`)ﾊｧﾊｧ
>>292
keep your scans if you can't read japanese. if you can, I suppose you can assume it won't be imported, although dr. slump got imported to france before it made it to the U.S...
>>294
A lot of stuff gets to France before the US :(((
I have trouble finding decent torrents :(
>I'll curse TokyoPop until my final breath if they in any way edit the objectionable content.
fixed
300get
Wait, so are you on TokyoPop's side or not? Your allegiance in this matter seems ambiguous.
Since when has TP ever edited out stuff?
I mean, they fucked up bad before on localizations (INITIAL D D:), but have they ever out right censored anything after their Mixx-zine days? :o
>>303
I don't know of them censoring any art, but they did tone down Barasui's loli comments in Strawberry Marshmallow. I guess they have a pretty clean record when it comes to visual content.
>>302
I'm torn. I like them for popularizing unflipped manga, cheaper tankobons(sp?), and for titles like Kare Kano and Comic Party. I'm not too pleased with them for the pseudo-deceptive marketing of OEL/MIC books and bipolar stance on localizations.
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omg I just readed the latest chapters (22-26) I had no words!!
I saw TP's version at the bookstore.
I did not buy it...!!
Hey, Whats up with evil-genius NHK releases?
v01c4-10,v3c11-14 that labling scheme means random chapters from each volume. Theirs zero seeds on the torrents and v04c16 hasnt happened in the first 15 episodes of the manga so im not sure whats going on. Im gonna buy v01 from TP tomorrow but is their a coherent scanlation group i can pickup the rest of the chapters from??
Vivienne Westwood
You can buy the rest of the volumes from Tokyopop when they come out, you know. They're not only gonna release the first one. As a bonus, you then get a competent translation.
Obviously they wont release just the first volume but they can take their sweet time releasing the rest and im not one to read one volume then wait 3 months after ive forgotten everything and go buy the next
>>312
you've got a pretty short attention span!
Anyone have a link to the novels?
Why the fuck would someone want to wait 6 months or more for the manga to catch up where you are in stores, when you can just download it
Because the warez translators do a fucking shitty job of it?
And holding a good'ole book while leaning n your bed is relaxing?
Don't judge all groups based on EvilGenius' work. The Jinmen Juushin version was solid while it lasted.
In any case, TokyoPop isn't exactly a paragon of quality work, either.
They're both by people.
Most manga scanlations are just as good or better than retail translations, and they usually try to be truer to the plot.
The only probably is that some scanlators sucks, or translate from another language's script. Professional translators never suck that bad.
And they dropped it the second it was licensed, thus not falling under the label "warez translators".
The Tokyopop translation loses to the Jinmen translation occasionally, but overall it's very decent.
i just got the first one from Tokyo Pop randomly and i enjoy it. About scantalation over waiting for the Volumes to come out, i do enjoy scantalations because im imapatient when it comes to a good story, but sometimes reading manga in paper form is just...better than on the computer screen, that is unless you print em out. I usually just get the scans and then
North Korea thinks that I sell a nuclear weapon to Islam radical group from lack of funds at last.
I think that it is a crisis of a nucleus for U.S.A.
This is a job for... Silmido man!!
He can kill north Koreans in a single bound.
I just got the first book as well. I was especially pleased to see that they don't appear to have censored it in any way, something I was afraid would happen when it was released in English. For example they leave in the bit where he snorts crack and talks to the appliances.
Wish there still fan scanlation out there.
>>325
I got one off of a torrent site somewhere.
It seems to be Korean common sense
Jesus Christ is a Korean
Tom Cruise is a Korean
Carl Lewis is a Korean
Michael Jordan is a Korean
Queen Elizabeth is a Korean
American ancestors are Koreans
A Korean forges it
Does anyone have vol6 translated? What if any groups are doing scans for NHK?
> Discussion of where to acquire licenced series or material isn't allowed.
Im sorry, im new to the thread and iv'e read it through fast.
I just got ahold of 'Evil_Genius's translation of the manga (volumes 1-5) but im not sure if i should wait reading it, and try to get ahold of other "better" translations?
Is Evil_Genius really bad?
You should buy it.
>331
I should yes, but im not asking where to get it, im just asking if there are any better fantranslations than Evil_Genius.
i think evil genius nhk manga translations are pretty good..well no need to worry
They are good, it just takes ages for a new chapter. Not that I blame them though, they are working on a lot of projects and doing a very good job. At least if its slow its not rushed.
And do any of you actually know any Japanese so that you have any chance of judging if they are good or not?
I bought volume 1 and 2 and I love it. I have seen the anime already too. And 327. Stop with the korean joke crap. none of those are korean and just stop it. Your just ashaming your self... This is comoing from a korean.
I'm greatly enjoying this manga, and though I have the anime, I've only watched the first two episodes; At first, I was trying to find and download the scans, but once it was picked up & officially published in english, I just started picking up the volumes; Well worth it, as it's funny, and offers very interesting characters..
evil genius translations fucking suck
That's nice, but I wasn't asking you, was I?
hi kenji u suck?
>>343
Not caring doesn't make me suck. But I like how you copied my question format.
So you basically just wanted to show off that you can write a word in Japanese?
>>345
No, I was answering your question. I'll give you the fact that I did indeed miss who you were addressing, but no more than that.
You're hilarious, kid.
Somebody's got a case of Last Word Syndrome.
Look, lose the name and learn to post anonymously. That way, maybe you won't end up annoying everyone by being unable to walk away from an argument.
LOLno :D
Last Word Syndrome, dude. Seek Treatment.
It's a good thing that there's a little ID bar on the side, or else people would be hijacking your name.
Somebody's got a case of Last Word Syndrome. Seek Treatment.
Somebody's got a case of Last Word Syndrome. Seek Treatment.
yo! anyone know when chapter 37 comes out?
dunno
Man, the anime was like less than a quarter of how fucked up the manga is. Seriously. I'm glad I saw that first, because I'd be rather disappointed with the rather fast and loose adaptation the studio did.
Kind of like first seeing the movie and then reading the book. Not to say the anime wasn't good, but... ha ha ha.
>>358
Dude, wait until you've read the novel it's based on.
>>359
The novel's been licenced too. Definitely can't wait.
>>359 October 9th is when the novel is released... which is also my birthday
Well Evil Genius aren't going to release it any time soon, maybe 4chan will translate it?
It was pretty awesome reading the manga after the anime, actually. I was totally caught by surprise when the plots divurged.
I don't mean to be a troll, but am I the only one who thought the Anime was better than the manga?
I guess there's no real point in trying to compare two different media, but suffice it to say that I found the anime more compelling than the manga. Some of the frenetic art and crassier humor is made at the characters' expense and doesn't really do much to strengthen the work. The anime is believable slice-of-life whilst the manga is a jumpy cartoon.
Yes, you are the only one.
>>364
Like the manga, the anime was nigh legendary good for the first few episodes. About until the heavy drama started. Then it started to feel like... I don't know, like the director was waving a finger at the general public and going "tut tut"? Like a DARE "soft touch" propaganda vid, exploring a topic through the worst of all examples.
Still liked it though. And I suppose there isn't all that much material in the depths of otakuhood once hug pillows and maid cafes have been tapped. (Nothing that could be put into an anime anyway.)
Well, I would have liked them to be more truthful to the Hikikomori lifestyle. I guess it's more of a challenge to have your protagonist interface with the world around him via 2ch than in more conventional drama-setting. The Anime didn't make a SINGLE reference to 2ch, did the manga? what's with that?? I mean, he's a hiki right? What's with this guy going outside as early as episode one?
To that extent I think the writer copped out a bit on the subject of hikis.
They show a much more serious case later on, of course. I think it's just that the main character isn't really a bad case.
>>367
I think there's a quick reference to 2ch at the end of one of the last two or three episodes, a fake screencap or some such. But no, there's not a lot of intaanetto in the anime. (Or the manga, as I've understood.) Perhaps this is a sacrifice before the altar of entertainment, perhaps even a good one; I wouldn't've watched it if it'd been just a handful of frames for an entire episode, four of which would be him in front of his computer with his hands in slightly different positions, looped to show him typing.
Anyway, it's implied that the main character (I hesitate to call him protagonist) has spent weeks on end indoors.
Indeed they do. Pissbottles, horrible hygiene, and mmorpg's. Not a pretty sight.
I love how this manga builds you up on comedy during the first volume and then slowly drives you to feeling deeply depressed for the characters. Giving slight bits of possible glimmers of hope for a turn-around in the character's situations, then stomps them out, leaving them even worse XD