Do you also think this is just some empty promises?
I don't really get what the software is for, but afais, you only learn to remember where each note on the fretboard is. I don't really get how they can promise to become a 'genius' guitar player in less than 60 minutes, because (in my opinion) that's theoretically and above all theortically impossible.
go do that, then, and while you're at it quick fucking bumping noobs.
>>223
Ok! ...(strum)(strum)(strum)
Well I just reviewed the software, and yes for me it's a BIG stretch to learn in 60 mins, or in 1 day for that matter. Like others have said, it's just a memory concept ... that can be applied to other things in life, but for me ... not worth $30. Glad I did have to purchase it. Scam??? yes and no, depends on if you think you can actually apply this concept without going stir crazy. I have been playing guitar for 20 yrs, and this is not much help for me. Easiest way to get it is, P2P software.
>>225
dude, if you've been playing for 20 years and don't know the fretboard inside out and backwards, give up now. no software is gonna help you.
SO I tried the fucking thing, and guess what! I think I'm riped off! Damn it! this sucks! I knew this was a bad Idea, I love the guitar and I first believed it but I was like naahh I can learn it slowly cause thats fair, but then I wanted to learn to play the guitar faster and faster, so u know that paypall regestresion they have. Well Its bull! It asks u to write information and then it doesnt ask u to write a password and after u give em your info it leads u to a page where you have to write your user name AND pasword but they dont even ask you for the password or email it to you!!! Fuck! THis shit sucks! I'm ashamed of my self know.
On "Japan Video Topics", the long running series of videos produced by Japan's Ministry of Foriegn Affairs to promote tourism, the inventor of Yamaha's EZ-AG Guitar (no strings, light up frets) said that when he was learning to play the guitar, he was "having great difficulty learning chords". That's why he created the EZ-AG.
I just thought it was funny that he found it easier to create a hi-tech guitar, than memorizing guitar chords.
Only as funny as you people finding it easier to bump the thread than to let it die the death it should've died months ago?
thanks everyone for venting on this. i would have spent money on what would have been a piece of crap. special thanks to "hellawaits" for adding in the website that just shows you the notes and where they are located on the guitar. some people like myself are self teaching and just need something to look at and learn. one question is there any advice that any of you can give for finger techniques to help with eye-hand coordination. any help much obliged. just started 1 week ago and would like some advice from you experienced folk. thanks
Check out this instead of fret2fret, it's much cheaper and much better. Go to http://fretmasters.com to see what I mean.
Check out this instead of fret2fret, it's much cheaper and much better. Go to http://fretmasters.com to see what I mean.
Download our software for FREE which has a fretboard trainer and chord and scale library.
UNLIKE fretboard warrior - you can practice the entire fretboard without having to pay. If you shoudl decide to make a donation then we give you access to tons of stuff... and we've now included a mnemonic memory technique like Fret2Fret - only better! ha!
You can still use my cool software WITHOUT donating though!
sorry... link is http://www.tabguitarlessons.com
Type in fret2fret on limewire and you got it!
I got it, and saved myself 30$.
http://www.fret2fret.com/fret2fret.pdf
this is probably the whole method :)
this isnt software dont download this shit.limewire,programs get it for free and have a laugh.
Most people would know all the notes on a piano within an hour. But they would still have no idea how to play the very simplest tune. Same with the guitar. Knowing where the notes are is a basic reference, and little more.
ive been playing guitar since i was 10 and i turn 19 in a little over a week, its something i take very seriously and enjoy, you cant teach someone how to play guitar by showing them where the notes on on a fret board, if guitar was that easy and if youre like 60 something maybe you could of told kirt cobain the secert to guitar because i think he sucked and im tired of people telling me how god he was, one more nirvana song i might shot my self in the head
>>239
go do so please.
is there a version to mac? for this fret2fret? kuz i wana tryit for free but i dunno if i can find any program for mac.
Yes there is, it's just a flash program.
Well.... If you want to know for sure, and this should end this whole thread...
fret2fret.com
claws2paws.com
Ya... That's all you need to see, and you tell me whether or not he's the "Advanced Guitarist, Instructor, and Celebrated Inventor" that he claims to be...
Basically all he's done is found something to sell, and know he's selling it. Regardless of that fact, it's $28.95 or whatever for a memory tool... Okay, maybe the guy doesn't know F-All about the guitar, but maybe this 'tool' that he has 'discovered' can help... And if not... Maybe you're cat's diet isn't good for it... LoL... Check out the sites if you didn't get that reference...
Ciao,
FinalStraw
What if I told you all that I could teach you the entire fretboard in 5 minutes? If you know your ABC's it's not so hard.
it's bloggs like these that make blogging socially acceptable
As a pro guitarist, I have been playing the guitar not for 45 minutes, but for about 45 years now, and I still do not consider myself a genius guitar player. Am I a dumb asshole ? Or am I right in suggesting that fine guitar playing comes with lots of talent plus many many years of never ending learning and training, and NOT with just spending thirty bucks and one hour of memorising the fretboard.
This is not a blog. Blogs are soap boxes where some guy gets up and holds speeches, and others cheer him on. 4-ch is:
> 4-ch is a website for anonymous discussion, allowing people to talk about a variety of subjects.
> http://4-ch.net/
the method vali but his advertising is misleading you obviously have to make an effort
Well i don´t bealive in fret to fret but bealive in this one
www.ruiluis.com/Fret2note/index.html i download their demo and this really helps learning the fretboard, but not only you also train your ear capabilities!
awsome
>>12 Here is the download site. Try it for yourself. http://www.fret2fret.com/download1.html
WTF!!!! I actually believed this jerk ass! he deserve to be smited down, what a whore.. -_-
what about www.ruiluis.com/Fret2note/index.html anybody tyed it yet? free to download and try!
Fair play to the guy for doing this...although if any of you are intrested, heres a link to his entire picture folder (this does include other scams of his along with drugs).
Link:- http://www.fret2fret.com/images/
(yea, simple html I know =D).
Also, if your intrested again, he does infact have an e-bay account which still works (to my limited knowledge).
UsrID:- mslaiter
...Also on a side note, arresting him would be fairly easy, grab ahold of his I.P from e-bay and boom, I can put you in his street, you'll have to find his house.
Fair play to the guy for doing this...although if any of you are intrested, heres a link to his entire picture folder (this does include other scams of his along with drugs).
Link:- http://www.fret2fret.com/images/
(yea, simple html I know =D).
Also, if your intrested again, he does infact have an e-bay account which still works (to my limited knowledge).
UsrID:- mslaiter
...Also on a side note, arresting him would be fairly easy, grab ahold of his I.P from e-bay and boom, I can put you in his street, you'll have to find his house.
Sorry for the double post. I was just laggin' abit there...
FretMasters is much better and cheaper.
does it acctually come with all those extras and do they work?
eyy people..
its just another guy who is trying to make some bucks..
its shamefull how some people kan be..
here are all the links if people still need them..
then you can see what kind of crap it is..
www.fret2fret.com/fret.exe
www.fret2fret.com/GuitarPro.zip
www.fret2fret.com/Fretboard%20Warrior.exe
www.fret2fret.com/bassfret.exe
www.fret2fret.com/UltimateGuitarTone.zip
LOL
WTF people are STILL bumping this fucking thread? GTFO.
dis thread rulez!
Sure Does
I'm just posting to piss off the guy who keeps bitching about bumping this thread! LOL!
If you're interested in software that can teach you to master the guitar in less than 60 minutes, I have something you'll really love: Magic Beans!
Hurry, though. A major bean grower is offering me so much for them, they may not be available much longer!!!
<s>fret2fret</s>bean2bean.com
im am a proffesional giutarist, i have been on tour w/ pink floyd, metallica, iron maiden,eric clapton, carlos santana along w/ many others, all you lazy asshole have to do is practice every day for aproximately 7 hours and you will maste it.
im am a proffesional giutarist, i have been on tour w/ pink floyd, metallica, iron maiden,eric clapton, carlos santana along w/ many others, all you lazy asshole have to do is practice every day for aproximately 7 hours and you will maste it.
im am a proffesional giutarist, i have been on tour w/ pink floyd, metallica, iron maiden,eric clapton, carlos santana along w/ many others, all you lazy asshole have to do is practice every day for aproximately 7 hours and you will maste it.
I'LL MASTE YOU
FretMasters!
this thread is so old, it should have a pension. Oh and fret2fret just rocks so so utterly. I've recently died and fret2fret told me how to play the mandolin, despite the fact I have no fingers anymore. It also told me how to type using my toungue, which explains why you're stuck reading this shit. Ha!
this guy has made nearly $US150 000 on ebay..
so i guess it cant be that bad..
pitty for him i downloaded it without paying haha
You're suggesting profit is a good indicator of quality?
lmfao this guy just got sued for fraud lmfao what a retard
Oooh,i was just wonderin' if any of ;p u guys could (pretty please) tell me a link or explain me how this "Greek memorising technique" works ^_^
Oooh,i was just wonderin' if any of ;p u guys could (pretty please) tell me a link or explain me how this "Greek memorising technique" works ^_^
...sorry 'bout the repeating didn't i push it twice... '-'
You times that frequency by a factor of ten!?
posting again in a legendary thread!
a violin doesn't have frets, unless you're in fourth grade and your teacher sticks those little tapes on the fingerboard...
yeah, violin: not for wimps.
viola, on the other hand?...
Yea, i guess u're right but... what is the trick?! :]
I was trying to say i'm sorry about the "threading" and what
frequncy by factor of ten?!
Btw i'm allmost fourteen so get lost 77
I just got the new fre2fret system... wow... amazing...
It taught me everything i needed to know. The notes, that is. Now i can solo like Jimmi Hendrix.
Only problem is, i dont know what any of the notes sound like. I dont know any scales. Infact, i dont even know how to pick properly! But thanks for taking my $30 and bathing in caviar.
GREAT ONE MIKE!
CANT WAIT TO TRY THE NEW a2b2c system.
Taught me my ABC in no time. 30 pages of powerpoint about
A * B * C.
xD
the page in fret2fret actually makes you want to buy it, i dont think it works, in 60 minutes?...right
does it work btw?
I tried this horrible product. I got free tabs, and that was cool. But don't waste your time if you plan to memorize the fretboard it's just a numonic.
www.fretboardwarrior.com
Now, thats where it's at.
And it's completly free.
This is an idiotic thing to buy learning every fretboard by memory doesn't mean everything you also need to play the chords correctly which is an whole other thing, also learn to strum well learn bout scales you cannot play like a 'proffesional' in 60 mins if you gonna buy this shit learn scales,picking and strumming technique this is fuckn no good if you dont have scales whoever made this should be shot and i didnt buy this peice of crap as you can download it for free easily from the same site he gives you it from the dumbshit.
THIS SOFTWARE IS A FUCKING CRAP!!!!
I can even imagine this guy promoting this like he did in that webpage, while laughing out loud...
What a person like this does is taking the guitar as a stupid instrument, which could be perfectly handled in an hour... unbelievable!
Im 15 yr old, and i've been whith the guitar since 13, and i can assure u that with a little effort, u can memorize a lot of notes in a short time, dependingyour dedication... My god, furthermore, the only thing he shows you is the notes on the fifth fret... AND WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT WHILE TUNING YOUR GUITAR??? In addition, as some of u said, it's very clear that remembering notes by hearth doesn't mean being a pro, or something like that, u should learn scales, chords, etc... By the way, i didn't buy this, obviously... By putting "fret2fret" on a p2p client, you should manage well to have it for free...
Sorry 4 my english, i'm from argentina :S
I can't believe I wasted two hours reading this thread.
The good thing is this fret2fret thing actually made me gain interest on my guitar again. Not such a bad thing afterall, I guess.
Oh and BTW >>275 wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Sure Mike is a genius.
bahahahahahaha, this guy has an ebay account where he has reviews of his product, actually read the damn review, somehow, magically all 2000 people or whatever the hell the number was happened to use the words "A+++" and "great" and "ebayer". And not just half of them or most of them, ALL OF THEM.
well fret2fret is great!!! ... so fking great that the dl page dsnt have ne scurity system ... dude that guy sure is a retard!!! ... just 2 fuking flash tuts each 1.5mb ??? and 1.5mb makes u a pro gp :S and a pro bp :S!!! ... SO STEVE HARRIS EAT MY SHORTS COZ I CAN PLAY BETTER THAN U NOW AND JUST IN 40 MINS!!! ... what a bunch of crap ... dl from free u fuking crap buyers!!!
"The possibilities of this technique are endless. You can remember long solo's for instance, just by creating small stories using the characters". JUST A BUNCH OF CRAP IDIOTINC MORONIC STORIES WILL MAKE U PLAY BETTER THAN NE GUY WHO HAS SPEND 30 YEARS WITH THE BASS! ... what a retard ... u can remember long solo's .... :S yeah u can remember but can u play them at high speed? moron!
Deepaul what do you mean p2p, sorry to sound stupid. i've been playim for a few years and just wonder is this crap and if there is a chance of gettin it free how, because i'm shit with computers
p2p is peer to peer. like limewire
The End.......
300GET
I agree with Tanuka - fret2fret has helped me find this group and I have found a lot of interesting info here - thanks
I am glad to get the stuff for free though - nothing can replace practice and feeling in playing music
My guess is taht this thread will wind up in an Internet museum one day. Amazing. Some guy redefines overselling, and folks, I have a Master's Degree in Music Composition. I'm studying for my doctorate in the teaching of music composition...and I, yes, I was tempted to buy the product.
Something about the wording. It's incredible. You think to yourself...this just can't be true...but maybe maybe it could help...it's like going on a roller coaster ride or something. It's electric, it's hypnotic...
Quite a number of people have been hurt by this guy, which is really unfortunate. It's not fair to have expectations set like: "amaze your friends," and "step right in an play with songs on the radio." For those who've been hurt, I'd like to express that I hope the spark of hope that Slaiter guy awakened didn't go out.
It's possible to learn in an accelerated fashion with excellent teaching and concerted practice. Sometimes, as was the case in my music education, things just take time, and it's good that they take time. You learn things way way way better, if you take your time and really internalize what you are doing.
You make a lot more progress when you take your time.
Go slowly. There's no rush. The "big time" will be there when you get there. If you enjoy yourself as you go, you'll be happy wherever you arrive.
Best wishes to all of you,
Dainis
for those who understand dutch and can make it to the download section of www.akkoord.be ,there is a very complete music trainer there and it is absolutly free.it has a note trainer.a key trainer,an interval trainer,a triad trainer,a guitar,brass and keyboard trainer,three different kind of ear training and it has a chord calculator and a staff paper generator.
btw its the download the most at the bottom.
make sure to take a look at the rest of the downloads.they are very interesting too!!!
btw chord means akkoord in dutch so the site is all about chords and notes.the music trainer may be the thing that some of you are looking for
How can one determine, how many copies of fret2fret this guy has sold?
How can one determine, how many copies this guy has sold already?
I have seen alot of bull shit and gimics online, but this guy is retarded. If your gonna rip people of atleast dont make it so obvious. people like that diserve to get ass raped in jail.
oh holy shit i downloaded this software. and i've gotta say it... it sucks. so don't buy it!!!!!!!!!!11111111
if any one here still wants the "software",
just use ur brain for a minute to figure out the download link..
the link starts with the complete url of the website uptill ".com", fowward slash "/" and then write the one word or one number meanings of the following things to form the complete file name: "opposite of up", "opposite of unload", "5-4", "2-1", "letter before K", "letter before U", "letter before T", followed by a dot "." and the four letter word for what language simple webpages are made of.
since i cant post the link... i gave it to u like this... as far as i know this isnt a violation of the rules :)
P.S. im a software engineer and i want to kill this slaiter guy for calling this stuff a software
everything same uptill.com "forwardslash" fret2fret.exe
i tried it for fun, but this guy has to be retarded for being so lame....
When the first word on a website is 80-point red text in boldface, I know that everything that follows is 100% factual!
Even more so when the rest of the page is equally painful to read.
Nice find!
>>310
That's just how you're able to tell the good sites from the bad ones.
nods
lolling at this thread still being on the first page. can you reach 1000 posts?!
Since I am from the Caribbean and we are much smarter that the average American, I took another approach. You see, we are able to spot BULLSHIT at a moments notice. I went to the site while searching for a good guitar teaching system. After reading the great sales pitch I googled it and got this forum as a result and have now concluded I will not buy it. You Americans can be sooo gullable its not funny.
Yes, thats right, it works.... I have mastered the fretboard in under 15 minutes.. and I think that may be a record. But theres only one problem. I know the notes, but he promised i would be able to play the guitar Geniously. how come I cant press down the strings without my fingers burning!? Do you have a method that helps strengthen my hands and grow calaces (or however you spell it). This didnt stop me tho, I decided i would play some metallica songs with my newfound talent.. Theres just one problem. I dont know at all how to link these notes to make chords... What is a chord? WHY!!!! I DID THE METHOD!!!
one answer kid... ummm your dumb
I got the idea from this forum to downlaod it from Limewire. The way I see it is, any lesson is better than no lesson. I am pretty sure this guy is making a false sales pitch, but even if I can derive at least some bit of lesson from it, it would be worthwhile. So why not try it? Heck, I know it will not make me an Eric Johnson (a guy playing guitar for 25 years can't be like EJ!) but at least it lets me indulge in guitar learning with a lesson plan in hand!
So what happens if u dont even like playing in the standard open tuning that much???
have anyone tried fretmasters.com . an alternative to fret2fret.
http://fret2fret.com/download14jts.html
happy fret2fretting
rofl
and all i had to do was just copying and pasting that url into my browser :D
well i dont have time to test this shit right now but i guess i'll just go and play some guitar and not wasting my time learning the fretboard in 60 minutes when i alrealdy know it.
I am the guy from post#315.
Ok, I have memorized the fretboard. NOW WHAT?
1) He doesn't teach you how to tune your guitar
2 He doesn't teach any chords, even the basic ones
3) He doesn't teach you any songs.
The guy promised that he would make make me memorize the fretboard and that's what he did. But he also indicated that I would be a good guitar player just on the basis of knowing the fretboard. Didn't happen.
So, you might say that it is a promise only half-fulfilled. I must say though that you won't be wasting your time with the lesson. You will have memorized the fretboard. Now that IS a significant step for beginners.
Therefore, my recommendation on the product: 50%. (100% if you get it for free, like I did, from Limewire).
Thanks folks was thinking of buying f2f but won't bother now. Looked at the web site mentioned at 185 and this looks ok to me.
....wow....i cant believe people actually bought this
