Do you also think this is just some empty promises?
I don't really get what the software is for, but afais, you only learn to remember where each note on the fretboard is. I don't really get how they can promise to become a 'genius' guitar player in less than 60 minutes, because (in my opinion) that's theoretically and above all theortically impossible.
Oh Come on!!!
The secret is bullshit!!!
Make me laugh!!!
I was wondering what the fuck is this so called "secret", and then you talk about a pre-school kid theory...
LOLOLOL
You must pay me 30$... lololol
:P
>>125
No.
How is that some say it is and others declar it isnt a worthy nor ligitament also those that curse its truth has it been determined most of those are dissatisfyed purchasers, isnt there someone who has purchased this material make it available
on a website for those who wish to chalenge its integrity. I also am unclear and uncertain and more confussed by the comparisons. This appears to be like George W Bush Verses Jim Keery in politics you never get absolute truth olny versions
and a lot of mud slinging. I was very much considering to try this as to rise above the ranks of a biginer w/ a passion for the insturments beauty and its ability as tool didnt seem to matter iwas just in awe to artisic beauty.However now ihave a deeper passion for learning more. Wishing that someone will research this issue and perhaps if we had someone more reputable in the music industry to ither indorce this teaching
or through out the baby and bath water it was bathed in!!
gixxersuzzie@yahoo.com
>>127
It is a pile of crap. There are no shortcuts to musical prowess, only hard work.
On a side note:
>George W Bush Verses Jim Keery in politics you never get absolute truth olny versions
If you have no invested interest in either, then you can assume that they are both evil lying scumbags.
wai wai! dqn dqn!
Use link http://www.fret2fret.com/guitar.zip and choose exe file from list. I guess that`s what is this discussion about ;)
I have never touched a guitar in my life (but really want to learn), lets see if this program is going to teach me anything (like his so called 7 year old son did). And yeah I'm going to download it for free on that stupid link. Seriously, how could he overlook that...
Here is the link. ww.fret2fret.com/guitar.exe
I just downloaded it. $30 is way too expensive; but I think the technique is very good!
Thanks Boss,
Just downloaded F2F. I can't help thinking that this is a variation of the "magic number sequence". In this system, the scales were chopped into smaller pieces and given numbers. The numbers were in the form of a telephone number, which was easily remembered. The idea was that you just followed the numbers, it worked really well, still does I suppose.
The difference is, that F2F gives you letters instead, which I guess helps you learn the note names. Like some of you are saying, it doesn't make you a better player, only blood sweat and tears can do that. I believe that Steve Vai practices for 12 hours per day. Maybe that's the secret.
I guess that Mike is English, as he uses Gary Linnekker.
Wow, this thread is 16th on google for "fret2fret"
cats and dogs learning to play guitar in only 45 minutes...yeah, right...like that could happen
(however, I heard there's this great product out there that can teach people to play in like an hour or something...I think it's called fred-to-fred...
Apparently Mike must like to play golf in his spare time when not thinking up astounding brain-power methods... Sandy Lyle and J Haas are some of the testimonials on his site. Knob.
Lets took his "software" and delete last two frets (also delete some arnold and deni devito).So we can sell it as "supreme bass playing software you ll be better than flea!" for only 25.99...
what a joke! nooooo way anyone is taching anything for that! i'm glad i didn't give a fuckin penny for the shit, cause on www.fret2fret.com/guitar.zip, he leaved it open, and we could download it for free.
maybe it's because i'm from norway i didn't understand the shit, but this guy said his son on only 7 teached this, and i'm twelve, and i understand english. helooo...
anyway, it wasn't worth anything, maybe it's possible to learn anything, but i didn't learn anything that i didn't could do in the first place.
i was disappointed about the fret2fret. not only could you download it for free, but it sucked.
I got it for free cause the sucka didn't close the files for public download.
I think it's not very bad indeed but (its just another way to do it), i play and my own technique is much better than this one. How can this guy ask for 30 $? its just fuckin crazy!!!
If u wanna play really good, spent ure time (years that is!), practice every day, go to classes, get into a group, & learn all about the instrument u love. That's the secret. & time; cause if u make that every day, there'll be a day that ur hands play alone, & ure ear knows exactly what its gonna sound if u play a fret (not trying to think bout it). Thats the secret of the real talented guys. They know exactly what sound (NOT note) its gonna ring out of his guitar if playin here or there.
I don't think the technique sucks. It really helps remembering the notes very quickly by using that "imagination strategy" I've often heard about on TV. It is certainly more effective than trying to learn all the notes by heart.
But you must not make the mistake of thinking, once you've learnd all the notes, that you can play like Steve Vai or Eric Clapton. This is totally unrealistic. In fact this method only helps remembering the fretboard, it doesn't teach anything about technique or speed. Don't believe everything the guy writes on his page ("play any chord in any shape anywhere on the guitar neck in the speed of light" for example).
The method is good as a small step to better understanding the instrument and I doubt it's worth the $28.
PS: The links still work, downloaded it today ;-)
I don't think the technique sucks. It really helps remembering the notes very quickly by using that "imagination strategy" I've often heard about on TV. It is certainly more effective than trying to learn all the notes by heart.
But you must not make the mistake of thinking, once you've learnd all the notes, that you can play like Steve Vai or Eric Clapton. This is totally unrealistic. In fact this method only helps remembering the fretboard, it doesn't teach anything about technique or speed. Don't believe everything the guy writes on his page ("play any chord in any shape anywhere on the guitar neck in the speed of light" for example).
The method is good as a small step to better understanding the instrument and I doubt it's worth the $28.
PS: The links still work ;-)
If you fall for this shit you deserve to be ripped off.
i'm from barcelona and i've heard about this "incredible and amazing" technique. i'm not believing it, anyway i'd like to try iy cause i'm playing the bass and now i want to learn how to plat the guitar. could someone send me the files¿? tahnks a lot.
here's my email: urinet2@hotmail.com
And, would you believe, the link on the third post of this site is still allowing
you to download it for free!!!!
does anyone know a quick technique for learning how to play chords easily?
That's the link is working now, go ahead and download the shit. Try this Mike:
Arnold is F*cking B.B.King, Devito y f*cking Cher, Fidel and Einstein are watching but at the end, somebody is going to F*CK YOU FOR BEING A F*CKING THIEF!!!
hahahahahaha!!!
A kick in the *ss to all those losers who paid for this sh*t!!!
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〜' ＿＿__（ ﾟДﾟ）＜ GO FUCK YOURSELF!
ＵU Ｕ U
I'm Norwegian.
PS Censorship is for idiots.
i think he meant to write fucking, fucking, fuck, fucking, ass and shit
but don't quote me on that
ps. guitar suxxe bass winnse
fret2fret load of shite downloaded it from limewire for free
just get a book and do it properly
This addy works:
http://www.fret2fret.com/Fret2fret.zip
It's not even a proper program - its made in flash
HAHHA!
I am only 14 years of age and I was thinking of buying this. And now I find out it's just a big piece of 5 page crap. Lately I have been unhappy because the one thing I love doing I don't think I will have a future in. Then I hear about this thing and I was all excited at the fact that soon I could be playing like my idols. And now I find out that my dream may never come true. I can't wait to dance on your grave you bastard.
>>159
your dream may still come true if you practice enough and get yourself some fine marketing.
>>159
You can become Big In Japan™!
Thanks,
That makes me feel a little better.
Dis program is off the HOOK! And it made my penis bigger!
looks like mike spent more time writing how amazing his programme is than writing the programme itself..
I just got this 'progressive rhythm guitar''by gary turner and brenton white' book to teach me the basics its really good anyone could write it i think but its worth teaching yourself as much as you can before you have lessons to save money.
Could you send me the email address for Mike Slaiter? I want to write him about his fret2fret system. Thanks.
Do you have an email address for Mike Slaiter? I want to write him about his system. Thanks.
YEAH! Dis program is MAD phat yo!
It's da jizza in da hizzouz!
Fret2fret is like gettin' a mad cRaZy case of da crabs yo!
Some things are so amazing they blow you away, you never forget them, they are IMPRINTED in your mind....but fret2fret is not one of those things. TRUE!!!
hahahaha the site sux that bad??? wow, thanks XD
sucked up..the software is bull and its too expensive.. anyway its sth exciting..hehehe
one day my mate dave gave me a guitar ..then he told me about fret2fret then i became a guitar god at the local old people home ..then my parents sent me to a mental institution for having an imaginary friend called dave
hi i am thinking about buy the software but has any1 here bought it before and if so plz tell whether i should or not
thx :)
hi i am thinking about buy the software but has any1 here bought it before and if so plz tell whether i should or not
thx :)
LOL! i almost bought it but i then noticed the link..........sighs i really wish i could play like clapton or kurt.
anyone have some REAL! ways to improve?
im 12 and feel like im starting to not improve at all
:s
Hah, I got the program for free, now I just have to sit down and look trough it. It may be a pile of crap, but I think I can get a tip or two helping me with the guitarplay.
Learning the fretboard would be awesome.
I just downloaded this crap for free to see what all the fuss was about. I couldn't delete the shit quick enough from my PC. I have been playing for 12 years, and this is the biggest load of shit I have ever seen. This guy is a total WANKER and a rip off to any sucker who paid for it!!
I downloaded this thing and I get a ".exe" file (what the fuck is that?). My Mac tries to open in Photoshop and then it gives me a message that it has a bad droplet and won't open. Is this a bad file or does it only work on PCs?
>>181
couldn't run it on my freebsd amd64 system either...
> $ ./guitar.exe
> MZ$
here's what file says about it...
> $ file guitar.exe
> guitar.exe: MS-DOS executable (EXE), OS/2 or MS Windows
Fret2Fret is an okay program
i downloaded the flash player thing and wasted 40 minutes of my life
now i kinda know the fretboard the system of fret2fret is so damn confusing
>>183 is giving me a headache.
the notes explained:
http://www.wolfmans.com/lessons/personal_lesson2.php
lol
the 'SECRET order of notes'?!?! thats the circle of fifths!
i know all the theory around this but my guitar playing sucks, if what he's saying is true than any kid who's taken gcse music would be able to 'play like clapton and hendrix' even if they'd never touched a guitar before!
well i just downloaded it from that zip. i learnt the notes, but im definately no bass god yet. learnin the notes isnt going to make you good. i gotta say its a peice of shit software. Now i can walk away knowing that ive wasted 10 minutes of my life when i could have played a few songs.
>>181
Go back to the site and get the /guitar.hqx
That one works for Mac.
The .hqx works on the Mac. It looks pretty damn hokey to me, thanks for saving me $30 (not that I was actually going to buy it).
http://www.fret2fret.com/guitar.zip
thank fuck i read this, i was gonna buy it ffs.
Pick a note a day.
Say, THE C# at the 2nd string, 2nd fret: 2/2 for short. Work out in your head where it is everywhere else on the guitar, that would be:
3/6, 4/11, 5/16 (6/21) - last in brackets, 'cos I have a classical.
As you visualise EACH location, ALSO visualise the note - 2nd space down from top line on musical stave - this'll also speed up learning the stave.
Do this whenever stuck in traffic, waiting in queues, whatever. End of that day, you'll know darned well EVERYWHERE where that note is.
Ditto next day - different note. There are about 3.5 octaves on the guitar = 3.5 X 12 different notes = 42 notes total (depends how many frets you have).
If you keep the above prescription up rigorously, in 42 days, or so, you'll know where ALL the notes on the guitar are.
So if you take it more leisurely, and it takes you 80 days? Big deal. ;-)
Probably the best darned guitar teacher in the World. ;-)
P.S: Anybody who sent their $30 off, should ask for it back, and send it to me. ;-)
why buying fret2fret if you can comfortably download it from its own site?
Good question, >>193.
That Slaiter guy is such a dumbfuck.
He's like explaining the mystery of the succes of being a guitar god in a stupid FLASH application, not to mention in 5 pages?
Really man what were you thinking, to make a program to rip off gullible people?
"If you've ever wanted to pick up a guitar at a party and blow your friends away..."
Oh yeah sure, I'll go ask a guitar at the bar next time.
"...become very popular with everyone, especially the opposite sex!"
You should invent some love potion instead! Terpentine is not a potion.
Really people don't buy this motherabuser it's definatly not worth the money, I'd rather buy many picks with $30.
the whole thing is that he filled his page with a crap load of... crap ( :) ) and every beguiner guitarist got excited. so every 12yr old starts bothering his/hers parents to buy them the thing. => mike make money 4 free.. its just like me n my band. we put like... 0.30 $ per ticket to our concert and the whole highschool comes and we make like 50Ş bucks (in my country, romania, that is allot). the whole difference is that we can actually play :)
such a fuckin idiot... everybody can just download it for free.. the thing WAS DESIGNED FOR IDIOTS
yeah...that fret2fret flash thing really pointless....waste of time, learned nothing worth spending 30 bux on. good thing I found all the links you posted before i ended up paying for it lol
bumping a legendary thread.
wait, not i'm not, because this thread is closed. come again kthx.
the link to the program is still in #3 if the moderator wanted to delete it too.
it's a pc application. Seems like you can only run it on 32's not 64's.
Happy Happy Shitheads CEO's At Intel and AMD--got a lot of games and applications that i need to run on my old machine. Waste of space and clear old stupidty on your side; not making all the"old" stuff backward compatible.
Anyone got a solution so I don't have to run cirkles in HATE -mode
Thanx
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everybody's saying how he's a dumbass, but think of all the people that actually bought it, and not this elite group here that were smart enough to know it's bullshit. he's probably nice and cozy now from all the dumbasses that bought it.
To get it for free try limewire...
I downloaded it and have read thru it fast.
I don't see anything that deserves the very angry comments here - well, except maybe for his overselling the concept to an insane degree on his website.
Basicly, it's just a simple little mnemo-technique that could probably work fine.
Will it make u into a new Brian May? Of course not, silly u! But as I can immediately judge it, it's a fair attempt to give a technique that may work.
i can now play like brian may after buying fret2fret. all of my friends say i am the best they've ever heard. i am not related to mike slaiter
hey Paul, thanks for trying to stick up for me and my product, but why do you claim not to be related to me anymore??? Don't you have the guts to tell them you're my brother-in-law? Or did something happen between you and Sally?
Call me after work, okay?
Hey peeps.im from trinidad in d caribbean,i mean of $30US thats $180. in my country.this is a waste,but it did help me a bit.this program should be free!!!
lol this is such a rip off, i was sooo into it at first, i was thinking "amazing, how can i possible lose" then i wanted to see if i could get it for free, and no web site has ever heard of it then i typed it in google and found this fourm, thx god i didnt buy it
lol this is such a rip off, i was sooo into it at first, i was thinking "amazing, how can i possible lose" then i wanted to see if i could get it for free, and no web site has ever heard of it then i typed it in google and found this fourm, thx god i didnt buy it
It is true, he is a con-artist and the 'software' is only a 5 page flash player that tells you to remember an actors name for each note. D is Danny Devito, A is Arnold Swartzenneger. So remember he says, Arnold is holding Danny Devito up by the legs.... (A is next to D, strings are tuned to a fourth, Duh.)
ANd that's the end. His little dumbass 'story' to help you locate a note. And the bonus software are all free apps from other sites.
While this might help you remember where a D is in relation to an A, that's not the stumbling point when trying to master guitar, and it doesn't make you a guitar player, any more than being able to find a C and an F makes you play the piano real well. He doesn't allow for the third tuning between the G and B strings, either. And how expressively are you going to play if you are always thinking of - duh - danny devito and Cher...?
Knowing where the notes are has nothing to do with guitar solo-ing, unless you are trying to play off of sheet music, and that is not guitar playing in the sense that we know it, in the sense that will impress anyone... in a nutshell the software is not software, it is a flash player, it could have been a PDF or a text document. It is not very good. And it does not improve any aspect of playing. You can only find a note on the fretboard if you already know where another note is.
You want to know the big problem? Advanced guitarist he is NOT. And he is trying to sit by the beach and get rich by ripping off real guitarists.
Look at www.claws2paws.com
same mugshot of Mike Slaiter but here he is a cat lover. Same page layout, different text, another ripoff.
He doesn't seem to care about anyone, he just changes the text and targets a different group. Even the website names are almost the same. How many of these sites do you suppose he has? Hope he gets what he deserves. You know that's something real bad.
And Hank.. you say you downloaded it and don't see that it deserves the angry comments. Tell me, did you PAY for it? If you did, you'd be angry. Guitar Case Closed.
Followup: disputed the transaction with paypal and got a refund.
Apparantly cat-lover/advanced guitarist slaiter doesn't even respond to paypals dispute e-mails, as he is making quite enough. And if you all are looking for a piece of software that really DOES teach you the fretboard, I discovered "Absolute Fretboard Trainer".
http://www.absolutefretboard.com/
Which actually is an interactive program that gives you drills and measures your progress.
PEACE
this is bull shit
Ok guys, here is the link, copy and paste this to the address bar. Once you are there go to the 2nd result page at the bottum and click guitar.exe or bass.exe. Thats the software, a flash. Some of you might say it helps. But if you payed for that $30 stuff, you would be very mad. Did anyone buy this? If you did, did you get all those free gifts that are supposed to be worth $300?
oops i forgot to put the link
here it is.
http://www6.streamload.com/Nodes/Node.asp?cxInstID=25259315&nodeID=224841
can we please stop posting in this legendary thread? or at least sage when you post? there's nothing new that can possibly be added here. the internet thanks you.
>>216
They are all coming from google.
They have no clue what is going on.
4-ch is for idiots.
there's one now
Google have been notified.
Can we please permasage this thread?
This fret2fret program is total bullshit....
the last graphic is useful but the method is so CRAP !!!
i'd rather spend a million hours on my guitar