I think 4chan should follow Futaba's model and make more than one /b/ board. Why?
Just a thought.
Maybe you should tell them.
I want moar kopipe plz.
>>5
A) iichan doesn't have as many users
B) iichan doesn't have multiple /b/ boards. /freeb/ doesn't count.
also /r/ (the kaochan one)
i iike this idea.
I think 4chan should follow Futaba's model and make more than one /b/ board. Why?
1. The board moves too fast. By the time you post to a thread, it's already deleted.
2. The board is mostly filled with unfunny kopipe. Kopipe wouldn't likely move from one /b/ to another, thus decreasing the problem.
3. Meme creation has slowed down considerably, mostly due to the boards being flooded with kopipe. Good memes would transfer between the /b/'s, whereas crappy ones would only be posted on one board by those who are forcing it.
Just a thought.
>>1
you underestimate the b-tards
This thread is now about how /b/ is blocked on BT Internet. (Because having more than one thread about 4chan is overkill)
I agree with the above. Coincidentally, I also disagree with the OP, but as the thread is no longer about this I guess we'll have to leave it at that :p
Aaaanyway, during a brief conversation on the 4chan IRC channel prior to my banning from said channel (for unrelated reasons), I was told the reason for the 404 was "Btcentralplus" blocking it. This is BT internet's central server, which means they have indeed blocked /b/ access to its customers ('transparently' too, apparently).
According to stories like these:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4689386.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4354065.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3797563.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3786527.stm
They are using a system called "Cleanfeed" to filter and block certain sites according to a 'blacklist' provided by the IWF.
[ IWF homepage: http://www.iwf.org.uk/ ]
The only people that know the internal workings of Cleanfeed are LINX, but BT assure us that the system is only intended to filter out CP. Presumably somebody reported 4chan's /b/ to the IWF as a CP containing site, which then got it put on their "URL database", to be blocked by Cleanfeed. The only people that can view the IWF's URL database are 'members' of the organisation however. Membership costs between £500 - £20,000 depending on the size of your telecomm/internet company.
Apparently the IWF has been known to make mistakes with the sites it blacklists, and there is a complaint/appeal procedure to get mistakenly listed sites removed. Considering as how it is intended that by 2007, -ALL- UK ISPs will by law have to use a Cleanfeed-type system, appealing will soon be the only way that British /b/tards can hope to get to the board at all.
without /b/ being well, /b/, as it is, it wouldn't be so great.
>>14
Welcome to the future, AOL and the other various american IPS are positively green with envy.
Guess we can shorten it to just "The Great Firewall", eh?
I had the idea for multiple /b/'s a while ago, but it wouldn't work out for 4chan because of bandwidth reasons. If they ever did decided to make 2 /b/'s they would be at war with eachother uncontrollably for the first few weeks, and then eventually there might be self-segregation between the gaians who need to lurk more and the real /b/tards.
Gaia sucks 4chan's cock. :/ Nonetheless, both are sites filled to the brim with elitist, pompous morons who cling to old and unfunny memes to sustain their worthless e-popularity.
Gaia is still worse though.
>Gaia is still worse though.
How do you figure?
if you don't like 4chan's /b/, just go to 7chan, same thing fewer people
> How do you figure?
4chan is anonymous, so there's no spam just for reputation/gold. Rather there's occasional spam for memes, which can be bizarrely amusing.
if you don't like 4chan's /b/, just go to iichan, same thing fewer people
>>18 e-popularity
Anonymously?
>>23
a lot of the new /b/tards think its cool to invade other forums because it will make 4chan "hardcore."
/b/ should be split in half, vertically.
The 2 new boards could be /│/ and /⊃/
4chan should have a /‮/ board.
>>27
4chan should have a /oh god why bother/ board
all other boards except /b/ should be removed
>>30
how did i failed.
>>30
It was like that at first. Ah. The good olde days.
i hate that 4chon sucks now. All these kids and fagshit D:
>>32
lol what. was /b/ even around during the first few days? i thought it was made so all the trolls would go there.
4chan was started to emulate Futaba's massively popular Nijiura board. Nijiura was /b/, so 4chan copied that.
It has subsequently forgotten absolutely everything about this.
It's kind of amusing to see that seven months later, >>1's idea does sound worth implementing. 4chan /b/ is either made of suck and fail these days, or made of suck and fail and too fucking fast.
I'm just not sure if splitting it is going to make it suck less. I guess having used 7chan's /b/ for a while I've got used to quality /b/tarditude, and the 4-ch forums have taught me that world4ch sucks even when it's reasonably idiot-free (which isn't that often). Also, ii-waka-chan has an Azumanga board. And a maid/uniform board. And a 4koma board. And...
Yeah. Maybe it's time 4chan became the newbie chaff separator or something.
I'm looking forward to them doing that thing they talked about at Otakon, where eacAND MY MOM GOT SCARED SHE SAID, "YOU'RE MOVING WITH YOUR AUNTY AND UNCLE IN BEL-AIR"
>>37
failllllllllllll
OH lawd is dat sum time paradox
The site admin can decide what to publish but he can't decide what people are going to see, he can't take decisions for them. If you believe so then I decide you should pay me 1,000,000,000Yen, don't want to? Then goto freeloader hell!
The site admin can decide what to publish but he can't decide what people are going to see, he can't take decisions for them. If you believe so then I decide you should pay me 1,000,000,000Yen, don't want to? Then goto freeloader hell!
lol @ same person
4chan is /b/. without /b/ in 4chan the rest of the boards would not have as many users, if any users at all.
>>42
Are you fucking stupid? There are a lot of people who visit other boards and not /b/, myself included. /b/ is made of AIDS and fail, and it is the disease that has turned 4chan into the shithole it is. If there was no /b/, 4chan would no doubt have less visitors but also much less faggotry, trolling, copypasta, unfunny memes, and pretentious, delusional nerds talking about how 4chan would be nothing without /b/.
I'm starting to see /b/ referred to on regular forums, by people who are clearly not *chan geeks, and in some cases are literal 40 year old virgins.
Forget seperate boards, it's time to give the whole /b/ idea a rest. It's really starting to smell funny.
>It's really starting to smell funny.
Starting? Where have you been?! It has always smelled funny, from day one.
>>45
404 - Name Not Found meant that the odor is starting to leak to other websites, even "normal" ones. And that's scary.
>>43
you prove yourself wrong. where do you think the "AIDS and fail" meme came from, if not /b/? Don't visit /b/, my ass... and yes, 4chan would not be the same without /b/, but you elitists who think you're better than /b/ that cause half the problem. The other half are idiots who constantly talk about "grinman" and "reaction guys" or whatever. Cockmongler and Gaijin 4-koma, seriously. I'm not going to bother with copypasta of the speech about how /b/ is where we go to be monsters, because I'm sure you know it, but let me say this: 4chan is the intersection of American otaku and Japanese visual culture. It, and it's sister boards at 7chan, iichan, and others, are the closest most of us will ever get to 2channel. /b/ serves two purposes. It's the root of all memes - and yes, I recognize that this distinction is shared with YTMND and sometimes SA. It's second is to keep the noobs out of the other boards. It's a containment zone for the idiots, the 13-year-olds, until they're banned for posting jailbait or cp and all rejoice and joyously consume Hot Dogs in the name of Eris.
way back whan, whan i was little bitty...
/b/ was this glowing hot white ball of non-existant energy
and waves that an individual could ride to his delight
pleasurable putty that could copy a fresh newspaper printing backwards
i wanted it bad, real bad, real real bad
sweaty hairy mature man chest after mowing the grass bad
check this out, my friend has sex all the time, seriously
and he brought this really cute chick, that plays the keyboard in and indie-electronic folk band, over and she appeared to be smart, and she sucked his dick while he smoked a joint and watched tv.
HE IS A DUMBASS FUCKING DRUG USING LOSER THAT WILL NEVER AMOUNT TO SHIT but things like that really dont matter in this life to certain types that crave half-baked loser sperm in their mouths.
>>48
you don't get the irony.
F to F! F that S Homey! Crash 4chan. But then, the /btards will come over here! Damn. Well, let them stagnate. They reek of nasty sweat. >m< eww.
I do agree with you, as a /b/tard. The boards should be split until it slows down, so that a new thread takes about 90 seconds to fall off the front page (assuming no replies) at least. Right now, during peak hours, a thread could be deleted by then. There should probably be at least 5 /b/s, but they should be careful that each one looks exactly the same, and has the same URL (different subdomain). We wouldn't want them to develop distinct personalities, because /b/ is /b/.
I mean, honestly, if you have 500,000 /b/tards, and there are 5 /b/s, that means there are about 100,000 per board. They're a homogenous group, it's not like you'd lose some unique insight or humor between any, and nobody says you can't frequent every /b/.
> We wouldn't want them to develop distinct personalities
They would.
Split /b/ without actually splitting /b/: have multiple identical /b/s all accessed from the same link. Whichever /b/ you are on is determined randomly by IP and changed at least every 24 hours. Thread links are still unique, posts add collectively, etc.
make /gayb/ for with cocks, /b/ for no cocks
How about splitting only first page. I haven't thought this through. I'll let you do that.
>>1
Hey faggot, it already happened. It was called /z/. I wonder why it isn't around anymore. OH WAIT.
I declare that the Gaiafucks make their OWN Imageboard, and post up THEIR unsignificant and illogical shit on their own /b/. I'm also very sure their imageboard will have no /h/ nor /e/.
So you force YOUR retards on US? How wonderful [/sarcasm]
Gaia's got its own /b/. We call it Chatterbox. We've got our imageboard. We call it Picture Post. Anyone with some dignity stays away from either, mainly because we try to keep our idiots contained in there.
Let's face it. Each forum is trying to contain their own retards in some way or another.
Well, I have a feeling we need more reinforcement. Not with 4cahn. Gaiafucks are pouring in left and right. THEY need their OWN imageboard where they make their own lameass forced memes.
True, true. Lanzer and the rest of the staff will never open up something like that, though. They're too busy coddling the retarded 13 year olds who just joined the site and scream about how much they like Inu Yasha and Naruto all day. Sometimes I really hate the fact that Gaia is an anime-influenced community.
I lurk around 4chan to see some funny memes sometimes, but I've never actually made a post there.
4chan's admins could just revive the old /z/ forums and use that as a defacto second /b/. That's basically what the original /z/ was, anyway.
What was /z/ like?
It was full of harbl.
No, no, no. Let 4chan fester and collapse.
The uglier 4chan is, the prettier 4-ch is.
Except nobody has ever noticed or cared about 4ch. No offense, but this board's never really gotten noticed.
Not that that's a bad thing. As I like to say, the larger an internet forum is, the stupider its users are.
/z/ was /b/ with annoying backgrounds, terrible music, and some tripfag named Soviet Russia as mod-king. It was basically a dumping ground for banned /b/tards back around 2004 that only existed for about a month before being shut down.
I wish the /b/tard minded people would leave.
4-ch doesn't need their kind.
Yeah, that I can understand. But if they had brains, can't they just hire someone else as a Admin and a team of mods so that team could just manage the imageboard?
Also, as a previous Gaiafuck, that's not as it seems. Most of the so-called "Grown-Up Gaiafucks" complain and power abuse themselves to declare what they like is God and some other wussiest wussy feelings about everything they know about anime. Faggots.
And 4chan is getting fucking old. People are spamming like crazy over there.
>>71
people were ALWAYS spamming like crazy there
you idiots are the reason it is so bad
you think you know everything
post no content, destroy funny, what is the point of you?
to be funny to you? you can do that offline.
seriously, you are not wanted by anyone else who is unlike you, you provide nothing but hatred and destruction. If we did not build 4chan you would have nothing to do.
You know, your faggot rating is getting OVER 9000! /b/fuck. Go tape a picture of Heather Gram on the back of your head.
I declare a rescue of all non spam related pictures in 4chan to be posted everywhere else. And I am going to do that right now!
Again, Lanzer and the other staff would never have that. I hope that you were at least around long enough to remember that there were (and still are) not enough moderators on Gaia to control the populace. Regulars basically have to set up ground rules and hope people follow them. I mean, Extended Discussion gets spammed with pro-Nazi shit every day.
They're actually looking for people to do moderating now, but they decided that only people 18+ are mature enough to handle it. Also, they apparently have to live in the area around Gaia HQ.
What I never understood is why we're called Gaiafucks. It's not very catchy. I mean, people from /b/ are /b/tards. It rhymes with retard at least. Gaiafuck? Seriously. You guys could come up with better.
>>74
WHAT!? 9000!?
The original was Gaiafag. I just took it up a notch, and refused to called anyone gay. You see, I don't mind people that act nice and considerate. You are one of those that do act considerate, aside from the rest of Weeaboo Gaia that trolls the Anime Forum spewing nonsense and garbage all day. You promise that you won't tell the rest of those retards about this site or Wakachan?
Well, I can understand now. They've got like, 50 million in revenue, and they still can't hire moderators? Geez. I heard they even got the license to produce Tsubasa related crap for those idiots. And they still can't make an imageboard. If I'm sure that they would make an imageboard, the list would have to be something like this:
/b/ with over a 100 pages filled with forced meme and some shit about fatasses eating sweets
/a/ & /ac/ with 9 pages of misplaced shitty fanart
/co/ with those power faggots from Anime, probably some raiding with guro and loli
/ck/ littered with threads only about eating fucking pocky
/cgl/ filled with lardasses cosplaying Teh Rei
No /h/, /e/, /u/, /s/ and /y/
Everything is short there will be fail.
Why would I tell other Gaians? The only people I'd tell are the ones I hang out with. I hang out in Comic Creators and it doesn't get that busy, so most of them are good people. Anyway, I haven't told anyone about this site. I've never heard of Wakachan. Maybe I'll lurk around later on.
I miss the old Gaia,though. It had less irritating people to deal with. I registered way back in October of 2003, so I've seen it in all its stages. I just hope I don't get recognized around here as "that one dude from Gaia". Wouldn't want to give anyone the wrong impression.
Growing up along with something, you really see how it changes. Hopefully, they'll get more moderators to keep down the raiding and taking care of retards.
Blame 4cahn AnonFags like >>74 for being discriminate. He's just grumpy because he can't post up photos of real dead slaughtered people and be a powerfag on /b/ anymore. Again, I was once on Gaia. I was in it's stage of 2005 where Extremist Wapanese Freaks that replaced real food with salt and talked in really annoying speech and where annoying Pro-USA Comic Hypocrite powerfags all popped up in the anime forum. I was that guy that was so pissed that he post up face assaults that then attacked several Elitist faggot's e-genitals and fatasses with a rant of pure hate and truth. Then I wanted to conquest like Kuja, and then I was thrown out. KeywordsUsername: Chaos Complex Voltaire. Actually, it's great to hear some experience from you, actually. I'm also really surprised that Gaia was once like 4chan; innocent, free, and once awesome.
Another thing, I wouldn't entirely shrug at the fact Lanzer could make an imageboard. One thing I know would be that it wouldn't be public, and it would really be heavily controlled and moderated. It would come a lot later, after that MMO thing.
Lanzer and his team used to be competent, but they're too busy making business deals and promoting the site to take care of the userbase. I won't leave the site unless my favorite parts are ruined, but my patience is wearing thin with Lanzer and his staff.
Though, the blame doesn't lie entirely with the staff. Mainstreaming of the anime subculture is also causing those annoying kids to crowd around particular anime and shout at the top of their lungs how their favorite anime trumps all others. If I were a mod, I'd ban people if all they did was scream and shout at each other. Hence why I've never been a mod. I just refuse to deal with people's stupidity.
And the hell with the MMO crap. Gaia was never like that to me. To me, it was the biggest English-speaking forum I'd ever been to that had a wide-variety of different topics to discuss. It was basically the old chatrooms I used to hang out in, stuffed away in its own lovely little corner of the internets.
"Wealth stunts ambition..." - Drew Barrymore
I can agree with you. That whole gold thing and donation crap is just a big scam. That's like, RMT, and it's close to selling your soul to terrifying depths of Darkness.
And yes, that is another thing that really, just really, irritates the living shit out of me. (not directed at you) I like Anime too, but just because I like Hokuto No Ken and more anime you've never heard of in your life doesn't mean that some constipated whiny dog
dick wearing red is better than everyone, especially a real man who can make your head explode via knowledge of acupuncture points. (back to you.) And trust me, you're not the only one. Only thing, I love dealing with idiots online for some reason, then smashing them in the head with a ban.
I then can only expect 4chan raids like Habbo with that MMO Crap . Sure, I've role-played, but then after two or more times, I've realized how lame it is and how many elitist shitwipes play that crap. I've always noticed how late I've come into a website's life.... only to see it turn to crap. Damnit.
>>80
YOU ARE THE BRINGER OF DEATH TO ALL WEBSITES! BE GONE, FOUL DEMON!
cough Anyway, Fist of the North Star is great and all, but I like FLCL, Kino's Journey, and Gunsmith Cats better.
The hell? 4chan actually fucks with people who deserve it?
Seriously, where did that dumb bitch get off trying to ask for money? And who was dumb enough to give it to her?
>>83
Her ex-boyfriend, apparently, who she dumped not too much longer after they arrived in Japan in order to hook up with Japanese guys.
How did this thread become about Gaia? Gaia sucks now, then, and forever more.
Of course, that's basically the case with world4chan too.
It was once like 4cahn. Now it's like KidShit land. It started off as a conversation as to have Gaia and Myspace have their own imageboards where the fuckheads can stay and post fat CP.
>>86
CP? Please tell me the conversation hasn't veered towards child pornography.
No, I'm just insulting the people that are idiots and those who make you look bad.
Also, let's hope that Mysaps make an imageboard for all the world to see so that Myshit can finally die.
No. I visited it once back when I was young. It still sucked ass.
/b/ sh ould be on another domain all in its on right than 4chan. In fact, the people posting on /b/ should be shot and/or hung and/or sent to an island without food
Agreed. But do we have to sign a petition?
>>86
Gaia? Like 4chan?
I believe the phrase I'm looking for is, "HAHAHA, OH WOW."
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WAO~ WAO~ WAO~ EARTH 2- EARTH 2
Everyone can be a elitist fag because everyone can.
4CAHN AND /b/ IS FAIL
GAIA IS A FORBIDDEN PLANET
AND AS I RECITE THIS SPELL
I WILL TEAR DOWN THIS SHIT WITH MY VERY WORDS
AS I SUMMON:
CANDALJACKER
for all you newfags not getting this:
4chan is /b/.
You do not split /b/ from 4chan, you split the other boards from 4chan, because you cannot split 4chan from 4chan, which in case you didn't get; IS /b/.
In the beginning there was /random/ ,then /a/ where the community grew from (mostly FYAD in /b/-random and ADTRW posters in early /a/)and also MOTD's on Raspberry Heaven and a few GBS's helped to spread the word and combined made 4chan what it sadly isn't today.
(most of the users today dont even know who Hiroyuki Nishimura is.)
The other boards came later.. some of them had to split due to obvious reasons, /g/ and /l/, but never /b/.. /b/ was like a mixture of /g/ /h/ /l/ but it never split, why?
Because /b/ is 4CAHN.
>>94
I think you're confusing dropping a board with splitting it.
no im not.
i am fully aware of what OP meant by splitting the board, i am talking about splitting as in moving boards to another domains like for example /l/ did.
I should have quoted some of the people ITT that talked about removing /b/ from 4chan, my bad.
>>96
/l/ and /g/ weren't split in that sense either, they were dropped completely by 4chan to prevent trouble from the hosting company/advertisers/paypal/etc. Later on gurochan, not4chan and such were started by entirely different teams to fill the void.
Alls I know is, they need to do something about the speed of /b/. The postings are way too fast for it to be fun to browse for me anymore.
fuck spliting /b/, all it needs is a little bit of mod justice.
honestly, maybe 70% of the posts on 4chan are bullshit, what if that seventy percent gets banned? or not even 70 just 10 percent of all posts. That way, people start posting meaningful shit.
/b/tard holocaust.
They either need to retire /tv/ or make a /ps/ (Perfect Strangers) board.
I'd prefer to let natural selection take out the /b/tards.
/b/ has lost hope. It's just annoying even to have a decent thread without a hundred stupid replies.
Ultimately, what this thread is about is the fact that the internet is becoming mainstream. And, after years in the company of people smart enough to set up a computer, we're not ready to accept how stupid most people really are.
On topic, I agree that the /b/ board should be split, with several identical boards to prevent stupid wars between them. With any luck, 4chan's moderators will be willing to handle it again, and we can improve the overall quality of the place.
I really don't care what happens to /b/ or its thousand bastard offspring any more. They're all filled with boring, normal people now. People who have actual conversations about their daily lives. Kids who think it's another clique they can join. And genuine trailer trash that somehow managed to manipulate a keyboard. /b/ was never good, but it used to suck less.
>>107
agreed, it's gotten to the point where guro is bad now in /b/. I mean wtf, I can't post flame-cat without getting at least one post that proclaims how horrible of a person I am. And wtf is up with all the camwhore threads? Holy grail? Fuck that shit, where's the mods when you need them? I'd mod the shit out of /b/ if I was mod. Too bad you either have to be rich (snacks) or a good friend of Moot to be a mod...
> I'd mod the shit out of /b/ if I was mod.
You couldn't, it's against the rules.
> Too bad you either have to be rich (snacks) or a good friend of Moot to be a mod...
Or, posses a vagina
You fags completely miss the point.
/b/ is all about the stupidity. Indeed, thats what anonymous is about, you can be a (insert group)fag if you want to without giving a shit if anyone likes it or not. You just sit back and enjoy the lulz as they roll in. Someone fails epically? You lol. Someone creates a legendary threadGET? You lol.
/b/ is now, and always has been about the lulz.
>You fags
>what anonymous is about
>lulz
You're part of the problem.
B has gotten really shitty lately. I mean, it always was shitty, but the copypasta isn't even funny anymore, and the shops are way less than legendary. All it seems to be now is camwhores and random porn. Remember the days when this shit would actually get saged? :/
>>112
Whenever someone takes the initiative to produce their own material in /b/, others seem to get the hint and make it better for everyone. Unfortunately, it seems that to most its more convinient and just as entertaining to say OMG MOTIVATE ME and see a thread full of cruft you've seen 100 times before.
Now's the time to strike. By that, I mean the camwhores are 50% gone, the Gaiafaggots have gone back to school, and I'm also very sure that Newfaggots are out, and if not, are very vulnerable. We should at least ask that white cat Moot to step up a Cookie Banning system. Hell, even the Gaiafaggots have that if you've been to 4chan and tried to come back.
Go back to Encyclopedia Dramatica plox.
420's /b/ is actually pretty decent, though a little slow.
>>>109
There are no womenz on the interbutt. Therefore, no vaginas.
>>116
If this was an imageboard, I'd post the "how-to tape your penis back so it looks like you got a vagina" pic.
Copy pasta in not a valid response, try again.
For those of you just tuning in, 4chan admins have now throttled /b/. There are significant limits to posting:
Also, the following changes were made to how /b/ appears:
All in all, so far it looks like the changes have made a positive impact.
Copypastas are dumb. Just agree, don't bother me about them.
>>121
Seems to be entirely centred around conserving bandwidth.
>>123
If it was to conserve bandwith, why would they increase the limit of threads per page from ten to fifteen?
That's a 50% increase on threads up before they are auto-deleted, plus they've increased to the replies a post can have before being auto-saged to something like 350.
> why would they increase the limit of threads per page from ten to fifteen?
It might prevent someone from having to look for a thread they just created on the second page.
> increased to the replies a post can have before being auto-saged to something like 350.
Cuts down on recreation of dying threads.
> increased to the replies a post can have before being auto-saged to something like 350.
Oh lawd, at this rate they'll eventually be up to 1000 posts max like the text boards. It's kind of wierd, this sort of reverse evolution that's come about from westerners being introduced to Futaba-style boards before 2ch-style boards.
Eevn with the new limits, I can't find a thread I just made on the first page RIGHT FUCKING AFTER I made it.
>>127
re-upload the same image and it should take you to the original thread