The internet's Collective unconscious (14)

1 Name: ミシェル : 2009-01-19 03:35 ID:9BFD7l8Q

The internet's Collective unconscious
Any one know of any articles that specifically touch on this subject, I usually find a lot of Jung websites but they don't talk specifically about the net... Or if you are interested in the subject or have studied it...

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2009-01-19 17:54 ID:Heaven

This may be what you're looking for.
http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Tanasinn

But don't tell anyone who told you.

3 Name: ミシェル : 2009-01-19 19:27 ID:9BFD7l8Q

I don't get it, what does ASCII art have to do with it?

4 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2009-01-19 23:34 ID:Heaven

I thought it would be more appropriate than giving you a straightforward sociological resource, since the subject is so wildly ambiguous and very difficult to obtain a clear perspective of. The collective unconscious is an amorphous mass that simultaneously satisfies and annihilates itself at all times. Tanasinn is not just ASCII art. Tanasinn can be a face for the internet. Tanasinn can show there is so much contradiction and yet a single string of certainty in the fact that so many interconnected minds on so many levels forebodes absolute uncertainty. It is very chaotic, but also somehow beautiful in its many small harmonies.

5 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2009-01-21 07:26 ID:5YyFQV3G

Good lord. What >>4 said makes sense to me, but some people might not get it. I have an easier source. But it would most likely take longer to get all the data from it.

There is an anime that talks about this in depth, it is called Ghost in the Shell. I don't care if you hate or love anime, so ignore your opinion on that at this point. There are two series of it, and a few movies. The movies deal with it in a different way and less, so I suggest the two series.

And it is not just me saying this, the anime has gotten international awards because of this subject you are talking about (and a few related topics).

6 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2009-01-25 01:13 ID:Qg2fvz7g

Watching the two series might be good, but literature would be even better in my opinion. Does any exist?

7 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2009-02-08 04:25 ID:Q+Czd4iC

From what I understand, the Ghost in the Shell literature is mostly oily cyborg lesbian sex with blocks of Descartes printed over it. Which may be rewarding in its own way, but probably not what >>1 is looking for.

8 Name: Philosophia : 2009-02-09 08:08 ID:Nd4Yu6og

>Michelle, I don't understand the prompt.

The internet as of yet lacks the self-automation to even, in itself, have an unconscious. Inevitably data loads will make it so, but currently the net is but a dead/mechanical/numerical amalgamation/repository of human culture.

Thus, the only empirical data on this (and most theory) lies in the feild of crowd psychology. Happy hunting, Gaia as an internet or ascending consciousness in technology, I love this topic.

Oh, and a girl I know reccomends "Xenophobia."

9 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2009-02-23 06:00 ID:tFmwNlXj

Ghost in the shell series presents motives and methods of (stand alone) individuals working in independent ways to achieve independent goals, taking complex yet concurrent actions. Actions so complex one could not accomplish them without help from independent actors.

If 10 people conspire to do something, their conspiring may be uncovered. If those 10 simply know what is needed, know how to do it, and fill roles as required, no conspiracy can be uncovered until they execute the action in full. that happens a few times in the show.

On the anime front i'd recommend Infinite Ryvius. There is no discussion of the subject, and the show is very much about other things, but it gives you an idea of how a collective consciousness could rise and/or act, feel, think, in the context of humanity.

The two GITS movies I wouldn't recommend in relation to the subject, but the Solid State Society (3rd movie) I definitely would. An example some of the shit people with similar wills could pull off. especially the implied kusanagi role in the whole ordeal. [spoiler]was she being used or using the collective?[/spoiler]

sweet thread, will be contributing when i can. consider first a definition of 'collective unconscious' we could work from.

10 Name: Phil : 2009-02-23 06:28 ID:gkQF4dQA

I'd better expand on "Xenophobia," though it hardly relates tomy own perspective.

Basically, it is half social novel, half philosophy.

"Jane" is a soul in the net, compared to insect and plant hiveminds. Crowd consciousness is also adressed, also being a dominating soul.

BTW, how does the topic connect to "Gaia Theory?"

11 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2009-02-25 09:13 ID:BcVuRr6p

Gaia Theory is similar to the Noosphere, or a sphere of consiousness of the world (collective unconciousness), and both concepts are fairly similar to each other. The internet could be considered the Noosphere, as it is a medium which human interactions are connected to and spread. The noosphere is grown when people interact with each other and form networks, and since the internet is a medium that lets people network with many others, it essentially has increased the speed at which the noosphere grows. The noosphere affects humanity, and humanity affects the noosphere. Replace 'noosphere' with 'Gaia' and 'human' with 'life' and you'll get the biosphere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noosphere
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_theory

12 Name: NOT A sPY : 2009-03-09 18:00 ID:Br+KE+gu

I SMELL A SPY

13 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2009-03-11 03:37 ID:Heaven

>>4
You're thinking too much about tanasinn. Don't think, feel.

Anyhow, I doubt we're going to see a large scale collectivization of even unconscious thought. Individuality and specialization are too useful, and are sometimes greatly rewarded by others.

Further, the psychological unconsciousness is not a rational thing; wouldn't collectivization of conscious thought be better?

14 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2009-03-13 22:05 ID:o5UnyK2V

You guys should check out Serial Exparaments Lain to, it deals with a girl that is [spoiler]born in the internet and lives in the real world[/spoiler]

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