2ch sure is a broad subject to learn about, even though it is just a website on the internet.
Considering that the Japanese users who come to 4-ch have probably all learned about 4-ch from 2ch in the first place, I figured this would be the best place to ask the 2channelers some questions regarding the monstrosity that is 2ch.
First off, I have come across some weird offsprings, and I would like to know how these relate to 2ch:
* http://www.3ch.jp/
* http://www.2ch2.net/
So: What are these site's purposes and how do they historically relate to 2ch?
Anybody else, please feel free to ask any kind of questions regarding 2ch in this thread!
I've noticed several people here adding line-breaks to their posts, does 0ch give an error if a line is too long?
or is it just to make things easier to read?
関連はないよ。4-chが2chの真似をしてるように、3chも2ch2も
2chの真似をしてるだけ。2chと色々あるのは1chとあめぞうだけだよ。
>>2
It's Japanese-style.
In Japanese books and online, they add a linebreak at the end of each sentence,
or sometimes even after a comma if the line is very long.
It looks kinda nice... also, there used to be line length restrictions on Shiichan boards,
carried over from the Japanese software.
Paragraphs - the brand new & hip fad to polish up your text design!
Not paragraphs, it looked more
like fitting things into a text
box for an arbitrary screen
resolution. See?
>>6
Could be a symptom of people using a 2ch browser of sorts.
http://wakaba.c3.cx/soc/kareha.pl/1099102108
Interesting articles on 2ch in English:
http://www.syberpunk.com/cgi-bin/index.pl?page=2ch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2ch
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nc20030213mr.htm
http://www.ojr.org/japan/internet/1061505583.php
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/09/international/asia/09toky.html?ex=1399435200&en=c8bb27cc740761e0&ei=5007&partner=USERLAN
Does 2ch suffer from a lot of spam? There's obviously going to be a bit, but I've been thinking about how this style of discussion board compares to things like Usenet and mailing lists. email-type systems don't work that well anymore.
There's some spammers on 2ch, like everywhere on the internet. But 2ch also has a pretty tight moderation and reporting system to restrict such things.
If you look at the message boards on 2chan.net, though, you can see how awful things become if there's no real moderation.
let's go to 2ch!
http://4-ch.net/ascii/kareha.pl/1108089673
i want to know site which is famous among english users,
like 2ch among japanese.
if you know something, please post! XD
If there'd been stuff like 2ch, who'd have bothered to establish a 2ch-style message system like this one?
I dont think that there exists one big and famous site like 2ch.
There are many popular sites like slashdot but they are far from 2ch.
>>12
As >>14 said, there's really no English site that is as popular among so many different people as 2ch. There are some big sites, like http://www.slashdot.org/ and http://www.fark.com/ that are quite well-known and popular, but not as big and varied as 2ch. And in my own opinion, not as interesting. There's also http://www.livejournal.com/ but that's just for people talking to themselves, not to others.
www.metafilter.com is pretty big, but not very good in categorizing posts. It's also not good for a discussion over an extended period of time. You also have to register, which sucks.
kimosaito
キモサイト
>>15 >>16 These two are totally off. Fark, Slashdot and Metafilter all get under 10,000 posts/day, so they don't compare at all.
Here are the biggest English forums on the Web, compared to 2ch:
Forum ....................... Posts per day ... Online ... Forum subject
Gaia ........................... 200 000? ............ 23000 .. anime
IGN + VaultNet ...... 130 000 .............. 7600 ..... video games
GameFAQs ............. 75 000 ................. 6600 ..... video games
FaceTheJury .......... 55 000 ................ 188 ....... attention whores
Nexopia ..................... 50 000 ................ 487 ....... attention whores
Off Topic .................. 45 000 ................ 1772 ..... bullshit
PaintBallNation ...... 30 000 ................ 2875 ..... paintball
Something Awful .... 30 000 ................ 3817 ..... everything
VWVortex ................. 20 000 ................ 220 ....... Volkswagens
Christian Forums ... 20 000 ................. 1365 .... Christianity
TOTAL ...................... 655 000 .............. 50 000 . everything
Forum ....................... Posts per day ... Online ...... Forum subject
2channel ........................ 1 781 556 ... 200 000? .. everything
The first three are game related, so they don't really count. Multipurpose only, please.
Another interesting article on 2channel (in Engrish):
http://smt.blogs.com/tokyo_special/2004/07/what_is_channel.html
>>19
It's for comparison only. Slashdot has a limited scope as well.
By the way, the "online" figure is the number of people browsing the board at the moment I accessed it :v
>>12
http://forums.somethingawful.com is very large and covers many many topics. In my opinion it is somewhat similar to 2ch because of such a wide range of posters (from many different professions, ages, a few somewhat famous people, etc) and topics.
Some consider it elitist or whatever but I love it very much. Some things can be annoying like catchphrases or simply obnoxious people but it is a very great information resource and place for discussion. Some people might be idiots but you are bound to find very intelligent, rational, and genertally great people as well.
Of course it is a $10 registration fee (one time only) which many people hate but although I registered before the fee was required, I would gladly pay it again. It is a really fun place.
Sometimes the forums are open to be read by everyone without registering so I think it might be nice to check out.
SomethingAwful sucks. Registering sucks. Having to pay for a forum sucks.
But the western internet users just love to feel special about their accounts.
2ch: Japanese Web Forum As Social Vent
http://slashdot.org/articles/04/05/09/1740215.shtml?tid=126&tid=95
>>23
SA solution: Pay money to post, trolls/crappy posters either donate huge amounts of money to register many times or are turned off by the cost. Additionally this pays for the servers!
Problem: People don't like paying money for Internets.
2ch solution: Screw all attempts at stopping trolls and crappy posters; just ignore them.
Problem: This practically invites spammers to your forum.
99.9999% of forums solution: Registration prevents crappy posting lol
Problem: Hahaha. This isn't a solution at all, c.f. most of the top 10 forums I listed!
Both models require huge amounts of volunteer moderation, but on a popular and enjoyable forum it's easy to find good volunteers. Considering that Western forums evolved from old egotistical BBSes, I think SA is the pinnacle of the registration model. But 2ch is a far better solution, I agree. Too bad we don't know Japanese ┐(´ー｀)┌
> Too badweI don't know Japanese ┐(´ー｀)┌
Fixed.
> Fixed.
27 GETS!
Someone trying to work on an English interface for 2channel:
>>25
Slashdot solution: introduce layers of moderation to hide trolling and reward good posts.
Problem: introduces bias, encourages groupthink and ego-building.
Recently, when trying to post on 2channel, I come across this error message, what does it mean?:
もうずっと人大杉
携帯 でのアクセスについて
■とりあえずスレッドを読むには■
人大杉についてもっと詳しく知りたい
お願い。
くれぐれもメールで問い合わせ無いようにして下さい。
ＷＴＦ人大形ってなに？
>>30
Follow the links which give you more explanation.
Still don't understand it.
>>30
もうずっと人大杉:access busy
[意味]
２ちゃんねるへのアクセスが多いときに、
閲覧できるブラウザを規制するときにでるメッセージ。
(一般的なブラウザ(InternetExplorerなど)からのアクセスを制限している)
[対策]
これらのメッセージが出たときは、
「２ちゃんねる専用ブラウザ(無料)」
を使うことで、閲覧が可能になる。
[ソフトウェア]
２ちゃんねる専用ブラウザはこちらを参照
Openjane、Live2ch、ギコナビ、ホットゾヌ
あたりがよく使われている。
[由来]
もうずっと(アクセスする)人が多すぎる
↓
もうずっと人多すぎ
↓
(語尾の杉をそのまま変換、意味はない)
↓
もうずっと人大杉
あっそ、じゃあもう教えたりすんのやめるわ。
じゃ、tanasinnとゆうの意味は何か？
What's almost as strange as what where now?
Does anyone recognize the girl in the upper right of this picture? She is my idol.
http://img87.echo.cx/my.php?image=vip121996nb.jpg
925tann, I love you!
43
(･ｪ.) あっそ
This Wikipedia article on 2ch terms is pretty nifty:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%E3%81%A1%E3%82%83%E3%82%93%E3%81%AD%E3%82%8B%E7%94%A8%E8%AA%9E
>>38
考えるな、感じるんだ！
How does one get a forwarding URL from mona.2ch.net?
There's a thread on the Internet Culture board about 2ch:
http://4-ch.net/net/kareha.pl/1128532332/
If you have any interesting info, please contribute to it! ヽ(´ー｀)ノ
Does anyone know how 2ch/0ch checks when to close threads even when they haven't reached 1000 yet?
It's based on the filesize of the thread.
512kb, to be exact
>>52-53
Nothing else? Don't old threads with no activity get purged automatically?
Like, an upopular thread on the NEWS4VIP board would probably only stay there for one day maximum.
Well, yeah.
>>55
Sorry: what?
Look, it's a picture of Hiroyuki!
