...preferably in as few words as possible. How do I do this? How do I make shame well up inside anyone? How do I make someone I have never met hate themselves in just a sentence?
Please help me figure this out. Without this ability, my life is awful. I have some parts of the puzzle but I'm not fast enough. I guess I can find the egoism, but actually landing a hit on it is hard- I'm not quite articulate enough yet to do persisting damage.
HELP
if a person like you, who i barely knew tried, to destroy my self esteem i would definately send him in hospital the least.
You are a waste of flesh and your life is unworthy of living.
Some rare people would think nothing of killing a man just for making them feel bad.
You'd best work out your personal issues with others in a different manner.
"Did the best part of you run down your mother's leg?"
Child, do not play in waters that are to deep for you yet. I have meet a true master of the art and it's... ugly. One needs to posses a deep inner grudge/problem/psychosis to pull it of. Which I doubt you have.
>One needs to posess a deep inner grudge/problem/psychosis to pull it off-- Which I doubt you have.
I can learn!
Dear OP,
It takes a while to master it. A good insult is pretty much the same as a good compliment: it needs to be customised to the target. As you get to know people you get to understand the source of their self-esteem: their pride.
Once you've become good at analysing people and can get the info you need in just a random conversation. If you ask me it works better to undermine it silently and slowly so you pass unnoticed. This works by comments that might suggest that their achievement/appearance/or any other reason to be proud is preposterous.
Once you master it be careful not to let it out of control: you end up hurting bad people who are close to you and they are the ones who get most injured because you know them better.
If you weren't so fucking stupid, >>1, you'd be able to think of a way. But that's okay because no one would want to talk to you anyway.
i agree with >>6 not play with fire kid, you may not like the result.
ironically, it takes a lot of empathy to make a good insult. you need to be able to put yourself in that person shoes. its not exactly healthy emotionally, in the long run.
i'm a very good insulter, (i don't know if that's a word, english is not my first language) i developed it as a defense mecanism, since i was bullied in school (not highschool, i was pretty good at it by then). as >>6 said, you need some kind of trauma to be able to pull it off.
if you're going to hone your insulting skillz, be careful, you may lose control over it. i sometimes say some pretty nasty stuff to my friends when drunk or annoyed.
>>11 yeah im in the same boat. bullied in school, to the point where i actually broke their arm and spat in their face. you need to have something so bad happen to you, so when you dont like someone you can put all your anger and frustration of that bad incident and channell it into an insult (if that makes sense). i dont even think nowadays, shit just comes out..
You have to build up a lot of anger and hate towards yourself first. The more you have, the less you respect the others, the more you can harm them.
And no, it's not so funny.
someone has antisocial personality disorder! (aka psychopathy, it really has nothing to do with being antisocial)
some people's self esteem is indestructible. mine, for example. trust me, people have said worse things to me than most people would dream of saying, and my self esteem's fine, better tham most in fact. get a better dream. maybe take up needlepoint
It's not about insults and bad words. It takes true talent, if not a diagnosis of anti-social personality disorder coupled with narcissism.
OP is so pathetic. He wants to destroy self-esteem? Because he has none of his own to speak of? Trying to grasp at other's sense of self-worth to validate slightly his own pathetic existence? Ha. OP makes the mistake in assuming that everybody is as beaten and dejected as he is. A contemptible little rat backed into a corner, trying to give one last fight. OP, would destroying others self esteem make you feel better truly? No, no it wouldn't. You'd still be a weak little child. You're not even smart enough to exploit others pain though. If you're asking an internet forum, clearly you don't possess at all the talents to do such a thing. I know OP. OP thinks he's "intellectual", OP thinks he's "fucked up". All of the people around him will pay one day. Whenever somebody messes with him he only looks back at them with a glare and he thinks "One day..." but he knows within the deep recesses of his tiny immature mind that he'll back down 100 times. There's nothing more pathetic than a person who can only dream of being witty and clever enough to triumph over his oponents.
Except perhaps someone who flames that person on Internet forums.
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Man we really rip eachother here hey? I think 4ch users can effectively call themselves the most eHard out of anyone.
Wait for them to finish speaking with a patient smile, then say, "That's nice, Champ," while patting them on the head condescendingly.
This is pathetic. But go get 'em tiger. Just don't be surprised when people dish it right back to you, and worse.
Why all the venom and spite from everyone? OP gave no reasons in his post. For all we know, it could be for a good reason. There are a lot of touchy people here, I guess.
Hahahaha, making people spite themselves is fun! I make people think I’m looking out for them, when in reality I am making them believe that the world is against them. I cut them down so much that I am the only one they have left and then, they are slaves to my will. The human mind, always longing for acceptance, it makes me giggle!
>How do I make shame well up inside anyone? How do I make someone I have never met hate themselves in just a sentence?
I hate people like that, people who go out of their way to make other people feel bad.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
I hope this helps.
I sometimes say this to peepo
'You only exist because you're mum was raped'
or something like that.
I also like to insult dyslexic people but I'm a good person.
I'm not racist. although I can't stand jews or non whites.
Black people are cool though. As long as they're extinct.
J/K!!! i am actually a black jew!!
Most of the insults in this thread are pretty weak.
> I also like to insult dyslexic people
Why, because you're jealous that they spell better than you?
Seriously, though, this guy is on the right track. More than that, I can't say.
Using trauma to be good at insulting people? Such a waste.
Sex with mommy is cool
If you can do it, giving the right look can be far more effective than any words.
Subtlety works best, because it gives them no evidence that you wanted them to feel bad- it comes of as being a genuine reaction to them as a person.
My strategy: As the victim and I come into view of one another,(example, passing eachother in the street or hall) I keep my expression neutral. I focus, breifly and naturaly on the person, and, when i appear to notice them, I very slightly make an expression of distaste; like what I saw was not them, but something really disgusting, like a dog doing a shit or something. And as I do so, I avert my gaze to focus on something else. All of this has to be done very subtly, and naturally, or it will look stupid. But done right, it's an extremely effective self-esteem destroyer.
Knowledge is power. Research people. Just believe that people are generally stupid and check things like their online blogs, and try to find out things about them that you could use against them. Then, of course, use it against them.
The other way to go about it is to become friends with whoever it is, learn their secrets, then spread them around like wildfire in a discreet manner.
PROTIP: Grow the fuck up.
Faggot.
>>42
while i dont endorse oversimplified answers in the forms of insults, as they just cycle the hate. but this man has a valid point!
tl:dr, Fourthed.
>>27
it's very rare that resorting to negative/harmful means to achieve a goal will ever resolve long term problems.
not to say that those situations does not exist, but exercising this power tactfully is an ability that is unachievable almost by any biased individual.
simplified: OP is a noob, dont give weapons to noobs.
This is a very interesting thread, though I probably won't apply the techniques suggested. I just never thought of there being such an art to insults.
ITT: Sad, pathetic children feel rage at the world and want to be like the supervillians they hear about in films.
Seriously, grow up and act like somebody with pride. You are not Machiavelli. You are not Dr Evil. You are another reasonably dim person in the world who needs to get by. It is easier to get by if people like you.
People don't like underhand sneaky bitches.
Learn to win and better at everything that he or she does. One or two things will happen. One he or she will hate him/herself because he/she set their standard from you. Or, two he or she will start looking up to you and use you as a role model. That is where you want them to be and there you can become their friend. Later you can show how bad or awful they are compare with everyone else and break their spirit. You must be patient and evil to do this.
>>1
You can't ask anyone on the internet for something like that. Each person is different, their levels of confidence all varies. if you're getting picked on or something, think about WHY you are. Then think about why they DO it. Reverse that, shove it in people's faces.
Now there really isn't a way to make a person totally hate themselves. You can't really do it directly. You have to learn about them first. It kind of depends on how desperate you are, and how much you care about your reputation.
The best advice I have is to chide them and make them feel childish, but don't do it in the manner of "i am more mature than you." study body language & facial expressions while you're talking to find out what a person is weak or strong to. Once you find something that cracks them, even just a little bit, again, try to reverse their words, and add in the things you've picked up on. If they walk away arrogant, and you can tell it's fake, point it out. Also, i found it's good to tell people "You know, you'll still think about what I said later, regardless of how you feel about it now."
Oh, but, don't take this from me. This is just stuff I used to do in high-school. Then i found out later it's a lot easier to just beat the shit out of people.
Based on untrue principles. You can be better than somebody at everything and they will still look down at you. Trust me, it has happened to me. (My idea of better based on test results as well as extra-curricular ability.)
this is a gift only some people have i'm sorry. better off without it anyway, try and build your own self esteem so you won't have to make these posts everytime someone mocks you for your naruto headband
> My idea of better based on test results as well as extra-curricular ability.
So you're better than someone else at writing exams and fellating a trumpet?
...Yep, I suppose that's everything under the sun.
Op here
YES. THIS. This exactly. I kind of know that already but it's haaaa~rd and bitching/asking for help is easy.
Go Read Sun Tzu's Art of War
"Know the enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles you will never be in peril. When you are ignorant of the enemy, but know yourself, your chances of winning or losing are equal. If ignorant both of your enemy and yourself, you are certain in every battle to be in peril"
KNOW your enemy, how the hell are you going to destroy someone who you don't shit about.
"To ... not prepare is the greatest of crimes; to be prepared beforehand for any contingency is the greatest of virtues"
Do your homework and prepare yourself.
"If an enemy has alliances, the problem is grave and the enemy's position strong; if he has no alliances, the problem is minor and the enemy's position weak"
Is he alone? Attack..if not, RUN.
Etc etc.. Goodluck kid,
Why would you want to destroy other people's self-esteem? Putting others down is parasitical.
Dude, I'm quite the psycho. But you seem to be a little more.
Anyway, even if we all here differ on some things, mostly everyone agrees that you gotta know your target.
And from my experience, the best is simply being sincere. The people I less like are the cowardly kind, which plots and talks behind ya. If you're up against one of those, just go at them. Be true. They run like hell if you can't up with their theater.
There are a lot of assholes in the world. You know this first hand. So you want to make the problem worse, by becoming an asshole?
Go study a language or read a book or something. Don't waste your time.
>>61
Yes that will solve all problems in this persons life. Hit the nail right on the head.
>>1
I am trying to do the same, soley for the purpose of forcing her to realize she is at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to thought, personality, and all around being a woman.
So far I've run her out of my house, made sure she knows I will not chase after her and took all possible truth out of her statements.
I think the last one will be your best bet, make them believe they are complete retards.