Getting into trouble with teachers (13)

1 Name: Anonymous : 2008-09-24 17:33 ID:ObsafYF0

I'm doing my first year in college.

The teachers want this whole I-am-a-teacher-and-you're-a-student
thing going on. Giving me unfriendly, at times Rabid looks.

I don't want to back-answer them,
but they MAKE me do it
I don't like to do it.
Help me.

2 Name: bingo : 2008-09-24 20:29 ID:WL5TpZs+

Well, the thing about being a teacher is the teachers are supposed to be an expert at what they are teaching. What they are doing is give you the knowledge they possess though lecture and books and seeing if you are grasping and understanding the material through essays and tests.

They are responsible for knowing the subject in and out and teaching the subject in a way that the student can readily understand it. Your responsibility is to pay attention and demonstrate that you are becoming proficient in the subject they are teaching you. You can do this by doing school work well, and you can even do this by arguing against their stance in term papers.

If they have no grasp of the subject they are teaching, are lousy at presenting it, or believe they are the final authority of the subject they are teaching I can understand why you would be upset. But what it sounds like to me is you dislike the teaching format the college system uses. The teacher is the expert and you are learning from the expert. Both student and teacher have a role to play and if you do not wish to play the role of a student I suggest you take on another role.

While learning you have to take the role of subordinate for a number of years before you can be considered an expert and be granted a role of authority. If you want the role of authority you could try student government, or perhaps striking out in the field of employment. It seems that no matter where you go, unless you start your own business or show great talent for leadership you will have to earn the role of authority, whether as a student or an employee.

3 Name: Anonymous : 2008-09-24 20:48 ID:Heaven

*The teachers want this whole I-am-a-teacher-and-you're-a-student
thing going on. Giving me unfriendly, at times Rabid looks.*

If you were on a job, and you bit back at the boss for being the boss and expecting you to be the worker, you'd wind up broke and homeless. Your entire problem is coming from your attitude; without even a modicum of humility, you'll not learn anything, so they probably get pissed at you for wasting your time and theirs. They're just doing their job and fulfilling the role they've got as a result of years of hard work and saying, "yes, sir/ma'am."

4 Name: Anonymous : 2008-09-25 16:50 ID:B5kAsX6G

Again, bullshit, guys.

A good boss does listen to what his workers have to say, and tries learning from them. He accepts that not even he is perfect. Same for teachers.

Of course most teachers or bosses like most people are assholes.

Deal with it. Love yourself first.!

5 Name: Anonymous : 2008-09-25 21:35 ID:Onez8Hus

Again, bullshit.

Just try to get along OP, when you feel the bile rise, take a sec to stop bathing in the sun you suddenly feel shines solely out of your arse and just accept that there's a load more they can do for you than you can for them right now, whatever their attitudes at the moment.

It's the start of the year, tensions are high, they want some ground rules set.

And in the end, you are the student, they are the teachers, if you can't accept that, why are you at college?

Nothing personal, just stick it out for a bit, if you're being ok, and they're still not after a while, then they're dicks. For now it's tough.

6 Name: Anonymous : 2008-09-25 23:28 ID:LsI+DLB1

> If you were on a job, and you bit back at the boss for being the boss and expecting you to be the worker

Only the teacher's income is coming from the student's tuition.

7 Name: Anonymous : 2008-09-26 02:10 ID:gu9aQ9+0

I find that a lot of teachers at college are different from high school. A lot of them aren't there because they are good at teaching. They are there because they look good for their department and (on paper) have the right qualifications. Best way is just to ignore it the best you can. They can be bitches but they give out the grades =/

8 Name: Anonymous : 2008-09-26 05:20 ID:4GH7oEt4

>>6

Those are completely different situations. You are not the boss of the teacher. You are paying them for a service. Just because you are paying does not mean they have to put up with your shit. In the classroom they are in charge and if you don't like it then you have the right to leave.

9 Name: 43 : 2008-09-26 08:27 ID:Heaven

>>7

Find out what it takes to be a professor.

10 Name: Anonymous : 2008-09-26 19:01 ID:Heaven

>>7
College isn't the failure "one size fits all" crap they put out in public schools (that is FINALLY being realized as a failure several years too late). College is "one size, go find a way to fit into it" mindset. Also, colleges hire professors based on how much experience/knowlege they have in their field, they don't require "teaching credentials" that public school teachers need.

11 Name: Anonymous : 2008-10-12 06:47 ID:QCOB2eiF

In my past I've been fighting with teachers who have been giving too much hard time with getting along. So basically once i collected some signatures for one teacher to be removed/fired from this school. Apparently this action was successful and we(students) were all happy about this.

Most of the time if you realize the teacher actually is good with their subjects and actually teaches good, even though demands way too much, its easier to let go and suffer for couple of months than drag up drama.

12 Name: Anonymous : 2008-10-12 23:46 ID:SRCAVCbw

I'd had this really old teachers in college who is stuck up and a pain. I didn't really have much beef with the teacher, but I just hated him overall.

Being old is fine, but being stuck up and thinking your the highest and should be the most respected just because your old is kinda.... annoying and unreasonable. He wouldn't even teach you most of the stuff you have to know for his tests. He just expects you to read the book and learn everything. If I wanted to only read the book, then I would of never taken his class. I'd just read the book and that was it. It felt as if he just took questions from some testbank and gave you a test without teaching any of the materials. The students couldn't tell if he knew his subject well or not. Ask him a question and he'd go: "It's in the book, read it." If he say something in class and you didn't understand, you'd ask him to repeat it or rephrase it, he would say "I just told you it! Listen better!"

Respect is something that is earned, not given freely to anything just because they are older. At least that's what I believe.

I also had this young teacher that was mad stuck up and cocky. But he really was the man. He knew his subject inside out. He would joke around with you. He's cool tho. The main difference between him and the old teacher is that he earned my respect by knowing his stuff inside out and teaches it really well.

13 Name: Anonymous : 2008-10-13 11:45 ID:Heaven

>>3 Our boss is an asshole like that. I put in hours making a system so easy to use that even he can use it, and he still hassles me to do things which can be done through said system. Needless to say it takes longer to write me an email to hassle mt to do it, than it takes to actually do it himself.

Idiots like that deserve to be bitten back at. I have a firm belief that if you're in a position you should at least be better than anyone below you. In that respect the Engineering department is a perfectly structured meritocracy. Management, sales and marketing are just a bunch of idiots who get paid more for doing less.

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