Islam and violence (140)

14 Name: Citizen : 2006-10-05 15:06 ID:Heaven

>>10
That doesn't really back up the statement "I wish Muslims would stop forcing their religion on people," though. Unless you're saying that all Muslims = the government of those countries you're talking about.

My "knock on your door" comment was referring to the Jehovah's Witnesses, btw. Another thing that came to mind is how there are bibles in every hotel room. I wonder what would happen if Islamic groups started to leave Qurans in there as well? Not to mention stuff like "in God we trust" and that we were taught to repeat we were "one nation under God." What about the atheists? ;)

You could consider that "forcing religion on people" as well. But I wouldn't generalize and just say it was "Christians" behind it, though. Just a select few of them.

>>12

>Religion should not play a role in government affairs, but in Islamic countries (Well, it's basically the definition of an Islamic country) it does.

My thoughts are sort of scattered on this, but I'll try to note them:

I think America likes to teach people that our way is the only/best way. Seriously. If we do something, suddenly everything else is wrong. Religion centered government is bad, monarchies are bad, communism is bad, arranged marriages are bad, eating whale is bad, eating a dog/rat/monkey is bad. Why? Because traditionally, we Americans don't do it, or are taught not to. Don't agree? Prepare to be shunned by (American) society or embargoed.

I heavily doubt that our way is the only way. I think a lot of those things can, and have worked for many countries. In fact, I wouldn't doubt some of these thing are still done in a few Western countries. It's just the Asian ones that get media attention.

>in Muslim nations no other religions are allowed.

What do you count as a Muslim nation? Is Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Indonesia one of them? Or are you only counting the ones that don't allow other religions, and are thus arguing in circles. If it's the latter, then your saying "In nations in which only Islam is allowed, only Islam is allowed," which doesn't really make sense as an argument. Unless you're just arguing that they shouldn't exist, in which case I agree.

>Converting away from Islam is punishable by death in all Muslim countries.

Cite sources.

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