Korea Reunification (38)

1 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-22 10:32 ID:ldJ+ZfVw

Only few people in the world know that Korea is divided by a big concrete wall in the Parallel 38 that was built by the United States of America when the Korean War finished.This wall is hundreds of times bigger than the one that existed in Germany and is separating the Korean families, brothers, parents... the nation is divided because the U.S.A. is dominating the southern part and keeps an army of more than 40.000 soldiers to avoid the union of the Korean people.

      Korea is an independent and sovereign state, but the South is still controlled by the

imperialist interests and the U.S. troops .If any South Korean citizen tries to visit North Korea crossing the big concrete wall, he'll be killed by the american soldiers. The 'Security Law' in South Korea forbides to any South Korean citizen to talk or read about the North or else he'll be punished with jail or even death penalty.

     Since the end of the War, one of the main worries of the Great Leader KIM IL SUNG and the Dear Leader KIM JONG IL was the Unification of the Korean families.The Great Leader said:
 'To unify the divided country in this moment is the supreme national task of all the Korean people, and we cannot wait just one moment to achieve it'
      In 1980 he wrote the program for the constitution of the 'Democratic Confederation Republic of Koryo' where he exposed the basic points for the peaceful unification of the country respecting both capitalist and socialist systems.
  The unification of Korea, the peace in the peninsula and the meeting of all the families is possible, but the U.S.A. isn't interested on it, and every year with the support of the South Korean Army they display big military maneuvers like the 'Ulji Focus Lens' or 'Team Spirit with the purpose of invading and dominate the North. Only when the american soldiers will leave South Korea and the citizens will recover they sovereignity, a big united Korean nation is possible.
       Peace, Friendship and Independence are the hopes of the Korean people, and nobody will stop the burning desires and deep feelings of the separated families to be together.

2 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-22 16:29 ID:Heaven

> Only few people in the world know

lol more like everyone outside North Korea

3 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-22 17:47 ID:ldJ+ZfVw

>>2
everyone in amerikkka think no one outside north korea believe this, look out window some time, world hate you

4 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-22 17:50 ID:RahS1EWS

>>Only few people in the world know

wat

5 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-22 18:04 ID:Heaven

related: http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/04/116_22029.html

i hate america as much (self-loathing ;_;) as the next guy but all koreans deserve to be living under a totalitarian dictatorship.

6 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-22 18:59 ID:izLW9xhu

>>Only few people in the world know

DONT TELL OUR SECRETS

7 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-22 20:06 ID:my/VAqDe

yeah.....i don't think preventing a country from being taken over by an opressive totalitrian government is a bad thing.

8 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-23 10:20 ID:blNNzd5X

I'm curious to see what the North Korean revolution is going to look like. The populace is pretty deluded and completely isolated, but media is slowly leaking in. They have first hand experience with the better life in China. I doubt it will be a popular revolt as the bulk of the people are completely unaware of the concept of protesting or fighting back against riot police. It's probably going to be some forward-thinking North Korean General that will kick Dear Leader to the ground. At this point, anything will an improvement.

Anyway, Nu vă fie frică, Ceauşescu pică!

9 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-23 16:58 ID:u3ZHaZGg

YOU LIKE HAMBURGER?
FAT PIG

10 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-23 17:13 ID:ng/nHhZe

>>5 Also, this is bullshit, as it's likely that a greater percentage of Americans think the Iraqis are our #1 enemy.

Never mind the Islamic hate machine that is Saudi Arabia and/or Iran. Never mind China, which is poised to swallow all of Asia or Russia, which is slowly taking back the Soviet empire with political assassinations.

11 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-23 23:05 ID:5NSww0uy

>>10

> Also, this is bullshit, as it's likely that a greater percentage of Americans think the Iraqis are our #1 enemy.

Nope.
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/30345/americans_see_iran_as_greatest_us_enemy

I have no idea what you're trying to say in the rest of your post. Could you elaborate?

12 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-24 04:10 ID:u3ZHaZGg

>>10
Wut? China is behind the Russian mafia, oil barons and capitalist-KGB conspiracy? Putin has diamond balls larger than lake Michigan, I severely doubt he would allow his well maintained poop chute to be penetrated by a tiny yellow fish finger.

13 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-24 08:24 ID:blNNzd5X

>>11
My point is that people are affected by the media and base their viewpoint on what they see. Is Iran really capable of hurting us? Not really. In fact, they've only been able to mess with us since we invaded Iraq. Are they really our enemies?

South Korea sees Americans as the enemy because of the misbehavior of our servicemen there and because of various anti-war and leftist movements that don't like us. The truth is that we're the best reason North Korea has to not invade. We're protecting them.

>>12

No, I was saying that Russia is a threat and China is a threat, not that they're a threat together.

14 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-25 01:46 ID:Heaven

Holy shit, a North Korean troll?
I thought you guys didn't get internet up there.

15 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-25 08:35 ID:blNNzd5X

They don't get Internet there, but there are Koreans around the world that support the DPRK. A lot of them live in the backwoods of Japan. I can see the Japanese Koreans because Dear Leader is good at irking the Japanese by shooting missiles over them, kidnapping them, and doing all sorts of other criminal, yet slightly ballsy, things. All South Korea ever manages to do in response to the various horrible things the Japanese do, like reps stating in the Diet that those years of brutal oppression/rape in occupied Korea were deserved (I guess Korea was wearing a tight skirt or something) are a few crappy little protests. As Koreans in Japan rank somewhere below homeless lepers in the social hierarchy there, you could see how the North might be appealing to them. Of course, you don't see these people defecting to the Socialist Workers' Paradise in droves or anything...

16 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-25 14:54 ID:Heaven

Dear Leader is holding up the reunification of Korea.

17 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-26 05:21 ID:bjXUFQ4M

Dear Leader Kim Jong Il is allowed the internets, he's an internet expert.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21147701/

18 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-04 00:29 ID:KomfbKtf

>>13
Even though your mom's low cheeks are not together they're still a threat.

19 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-06 09:59 ID:U++gGAzi

It would cost the South a fortune to reunite the country. Why would they want to do it?

>>15
Also, I wish Coreans would stop talking about the half-century of Japanese colonialism and 35 years of official, internationally-recognised annexation as a mere "occupation".
Coreans are just butt-hurt that they don't (literally) show up on the map until the late 40's.

20 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-06 18:08 ID:5NSww0uy

>>19
It may be worthwhile to ask the Germans the same question.
I am not sure why but it seems that there are things which certain people value more than money.

21 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-06 21:13 ID:RahS1EWS

Dear Leader posts in the AA Bar in the "Ask Nida" thread. He's Nida.

22 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-07 05:00 ID:5NSww0uy

>>21
Libel.

Dear Leader has read the "Ask Nida" thread, and he disapproves of its attacks on the Korean nation. However, the principle of free expression lies at the heart of his Juche political philosophy and so he seeks no action against the authors, instead striving to show the emptiness of their attacks by example.

23 Name: dieqinksjustdie : 2008-05-07 15:25 ID:5dKqXEza

The thread opener is a chink...

24 Name: dieqinksjustdie : 2008-05-07 15:26 ID:5dKqXEza

Everyone knows that the only supporter of N. Korea are stinky chinks with their pig nose meddling.

25 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-08 10:47 ID:Heaven

>>20
There are Germans that would like things back to the old way in the East. Well, without the brutal police state, anyway. The same is true for just about all of Eastern Europe.

This isn't to say that Korean Unification will be anything like German Reunification. The North Korean state is effectively a criminal organization in every way. They traffic drugs and weapons for hard currency and are known to assassinate South Korean diplomats abroad (as recently as like 2005) to protect their slave labor camps in Russia (not making this up; one reason why Russia sort of supports them is that North Koreans work their timber in Eastern Russia for practically nothing; these workers are kept in prison-like camps and isolated from Russians and any other outsiders). East Germany wasn't this bad, ever. East Germany actually had industry. It was actually a semi-modern state.

26 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-08 12:06 ID:Heaven

North Korea can't trade its goods outside and is dependent on foreign aid. Its people are subject to famine, like they're in Africa or something. After WWII, there weren't instances of mass starvation in East Germany (mass shortages, definitely).

All I'm trying to get at here, is that rebuilding North Korea would be a major undertaking beyond East Germany and look at how expensive that was. Change can't come as suddenly, either, as the North Koreans are built into a personality cult. For them to discover that it was all a lie overnight would be devastating.

Like I said, it's going to be some North Korean general that finally kicks out Dear Leader and puts the country on a path similar to China with reunification to happen way down the line. They have to get their economy and international standing back on track first.

27 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-08 19:44 ID:setD1Kxm

>>26

Part (not all) of the reason for the famines in northern Korea is that Kim Jong Il is hoarding foreign aid.

28 Name: Dear Leader : 2008-05-09 02:59 ID:lpkHJNb9

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29 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-12 01:07 ID:lpkHJNb9

>>26
What goods does North Korea have that they would be able to export?

South Korea has industry that North Korea doesn't, but South Korea has lots of very fertile farmland, so much that their farmers are able to grow exotic foreign vegetables for local consumption whenever there is a fad for them, over and above sufficient rice and vegetables for domestic consumption (the latest fad in the expensive restaurants in Seoul is the kind of broccoli they cultivate in the US, believe it or not).

Doesn't North Korea also have farmland?

A few minutes with Google tells me that in South Korea mining was until the 1990s a very important part of the economy, but they do not have the sort of minerals or metals (it seems to be mainly clay, limestone, etc) that bring a lot of foreign exchange money right now.

30 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-13 15:22 ID:Kz7PuzaG

>>29
Haven't you considerred just letting people find ways to make money autonomously through economic freedom instead of forcing them at gunpoint to mine clay because 20 years ago there was a higher demand for it? Is economic freedom really that bad? I know it is easier for a few rich people to unite their negotiating power than many poor people and economic freedom can lead to problems if state socialism sets in, but you're just being unreasonable now.

31 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-15 05:04 ID:5NSww0uy

>>30
I have been sitting here for five minutes (this isn't an exageration, it was 12:58AM when I started and is now 1:03AM) trying to figure out what connection this post has with >>29 and I have failed.

32 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-15 05:47 ID:lpkHJNb9

>>31
You too?

33 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-18 06:34 ID:AE8nN4id

US out of ROK now.

Seriously, they'll enjoy watching NK soldiers steal their toilets and kill them for being collaborators against their magical leader.

34 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-20 20:04 ID:0IXX2b1H

>>31
>>32
Um economies didn't start from nowhere, you might have heard of the industrial revolution and whatnot. Once North Korea is free again it can build itself up from scratch like every other industrialised nation has. I doubt their economy will or ought to revolve around clay and broccoli.

35 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-21 20:26 ID:Heaven

>>34
protip: "industry" is made of things like clay and broccoli.
also >>30 has nothing to do with >>1-29,31-999.

36 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-23 17:54 ID:HeKZmHqb

You know, the only think stopping the North from invading the south is those 40,000 US troops and then entire country would be starving if the US did leave. But on the flip side, the South Koreans regularly protest against the US occupation and I say the US should do what they want and leave. Let them handle the North Koreans when a million man army breaks down the wall and turns Seoul into shit.

37 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-24 06:09 ID:lpkHJNb9

>>35
THIS IS AN INDUSTRY SANDWICH
IT IS MADE OF CLAY AND BROCCOLI

38 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-26 10:14 ID:Heaven

>>36

Arguably not any more. N.Korea's army is incredibly outmoded compared to the ROK's strong, modern air, land, and sea forces.

S.Korea can fend for itself, US air and naval bases are there for different, more pan-Pacific reasons.

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