Libertarianism in the UK (13)

1 Name: Citizen : 2009-05-09 15:16 ID:LrP3hwWh

Are UK anons aware that there is a UK Libertarian Party?

http://lpuk.org/

What do you think of Libertarianism? Legalise all drugs, prostitution, freedom of speech etc. Sound good?

2 Name: Citizen : 2009-05-09 15:26 ID:P+5YEi4k

There is. It is barely a year old, IIRC.

3 Name: Citizen : 2009-05-09 15:31 ID:P+5YEi4k

Libertarianism = Objectivism for pussies

4 Name: Citizen : 2009-05-09 18:48 ID:AU6nEpvs

liberarianism = objectivism for people who aren't terrible.

But having said that, the party's web page brings up an interesting point:

> A Consistent, Coherent Platform
> The Libertarian approach offers a consistent and coherent way of looking at the world—one that puts you and your family at the centre of things.

(emphasis mine)
I've heard this from more than a few libertarians and I'm always at a loss as to why they should think it good. Why should a political ideology's "tidiness" have a positive effect on how things are when it's implemented? The world isn't tidy. There are a fuckton of corner cases, and applying the same rule to them all for the sake of logical clarity is psychotic.

5 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E : 2009-05-10 02:40 ID:Heaven

"Čovjek snuje, Bog određuje."

Sums up man's relationship with reality pretty well.

6 Name: Citizen : 2009-05-10 07:25 ID:UUDn04Jd

>>5
Homosexual furry anal sex is the meaning of existence?

7 Name: Citizen : 2009-05-10 11:20 ID:UUDn04Jd

Britfag here, haven't heard anything about libertarianism except on the internet. I like the reasoning behind it but unfortunately I do not believe this brand of libertarianism has been reasoned through properly.

Some government regulations are part of law enforcement which libertarians agree is a legitimate function of the state, I also believe that if you make your end goals clear from the onset you can play the political game and make temporary concessions without disregarding your principles, even if this leads to procrastination it allows you the flexibility to gain support in the first place. If libertarians were aware of all this they would become a lot more influential.

8 Name: Citizen : 2009-07-21 03:55 ID:4fCJSFfO

>What do you think of Libertarianism? Legalise all drugs, prostitution, freedom of speech etc. Sound good?

Sound bad.
Libertarians always talk about civil rights, but basically, this ideology is about economic freedom. And that always means: authoritarianism.

9 Name: Citizen : 2009-07-21 16:13 ID:Heaven

>>8
I can't imagine how it'd be bad if freedom of speech is legalized. You don't realize its power. Then again, I can't imagine how a government can guarantee this for long...

10 Name: Citizen : 2009-07-22 00:10 ID:qu2JZUwP

>>9
Freedom of speech never is bad. But libertarianism is more than legalizing drugs and stuff, it's also completely liberating the economy. This does not work well together as either big corporations or cruel dictators will take over sooner or later, which results in less freedom. History confirms that - just look at Chile, Argentinia, Indonesia…

11 Name: Citizen : 2009-11-05 18:42 ID:DyGwh60k

>>10
Actually if you look towards history, you'll find that dictators took over because of rampant inflation of the economy by way of central banking. Remember the German economy was quite unstable after World War I because of over regulation. Rampant inflation occurred, and thus the political climate became chaotic as well. This paved the way for the Nazi regime to flourish.

As for corporations, big government breeds big corporations. Because if we had a government that actually stayed within its constitutional bounds and remained small, these monopolies wouldn't last very long because of competition and/or monopoly break up.

12 Name: Citizen : 2009-11-05 22:55 ID:Heaven

>>10,11

Honestly, I'd argue with both of your simplistic worldviews but I just don't know where to begin.

13 Name: Citizen : 2009-11-06 04:06 ID:Heaven

>>12
I apologize for not writing a much more detailed post. And it's not "simplistic", it's just the facts. There were many other factors for the Nazi's rise to power, yes, but the one that was key was the rampant and highly destructive inflation prior.

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