are we really using that much bandwidth? (24)

1 Name: Anonymous 2005-05-22 16:24 ID:wS9PV0qW

anyway i shot off another $20, hope that helps

2 Name: Anonymous 2005-05-22 23:22 ID:t5/1TzdJ

No other way to get funds there from USA besides paypal?

3 Name: Anonymous 2005-05-23 09:02 ID:CZ9MBo5d

> No other way to get funds there from USA besides paypal?

You could always email Squeeks and ask him where to send money by snail mail. Of course, that's always risky - not to say that Paypal is particularly trustworthy, though.

4 Name: Squeeks!!XjdwLWBy (Admin) 2005-05-23 09:31 ID:Heaven

Cashing cheques from foreign countries costs a fuckload and takes a while to clear, which is why I abstain from it. As for say, Western Union, err well, I'm not too sure on that. It's possible, don't get me wrong, but those fools want to see legitimate ID and a real address etc, I'm not prepared to give that out to the internet or to them. I don't even own real ID.

And yes, 4-ch.net and cerealandmilk.net use a lot of bandwidth, the various imageboards are culprits, but the discussion boards take a good chunk too. I've been having thoughts about deleting the videogames board for a while now, but effort seems to prevent this.

5 Name: Anonymous 2005-05-23 09:57 ID:CZ9MBo5d

> effort seems to prevent this.

what

6 Name: Squeeks!!XjdwLWBy (Admin) 2005-05-23 11:34 ID:Heaven

>>5

It takes $22 AUD and up to 28 working days for an international cheque to clear. There is too much lost in fees.

7 Name: Anonymous 2005-05-23 16:03 ID:CZ9MBo5d

>>6

What does that have to do with deleting the videogames board?

8 Name: Anonymous 2005-05-24 10:10 ID:gscafGCU

>I've been having thoughts about deleting the videogames board for a while now, but effort seems to prevent this.

Not that an Anonymous's opinion is worth anything but I'd suggest deleting the manga board and making the anime board a catch-all anime/manga board.

9 Name: Squeeks!!XjdwLWBy (Admin) 2005-05-25 11:20 ID:Heaven

The "Manga/Anime board" topic has been brought to my attention before, and whilst I've thought about doing it, I am lazy, and I haven't seen a need to do it. But, I also have a thought about merging the lot together, and including other Japanese things, like Hentai, Drama CD's or whatever. But until more people cry about it, I don't see a real big reason to do it.

10 Name: Anonymous 2005-05-25 13:47 ID:Heaven

Plz 2 not merge boards. Maybe it would have been pragmatic to have done that in the beginning, but now...

We'd end up with a "Wapanese"-board. As truthful as that may sound, it's still kind of... bleh.

11 Name: Anonymous 2005-05-25 16:19 ID:S96ZiAmW

>>8
I agree with the merging of anime and manga, as well as tossing in the drama cd etc. too. The boards are already splintered enough as it is. Premature forking of topics before there's enough of a consistent userbase to support both individually means neither will grow much. Like the situation we have now, with at best one post every day or two in between widely spaced spurts of topical discussions. They can be split again when there's enough traffic to shove threads off the main list within a day.

12 Name: Anonymous 2005-05-25 19:05 ID:vTnaBioh

>>11
Agree.

13 Name: Anonymous 2005-05-25 22:15 ID:Heaven

>>11-12

Does the little activity have anything to do with the current financial situation, though?

14 Name: Anonymous 2005-05-26 13:29 ID:Heaven

>>13
Whenever 4chan has been in trouble, similar discussions seem to arise:

  • "Oh no we have been using bandwidth!"
  • "Let's delete some boards!"
  • "But not the boards I happen to like."

and much bitching ensues.

15 Name: Anonymous 2005-05-26 19:34 ID:Heaven

>>14

Let's discuss the real situation at hand and not some typcial case of discussion, okay?

As I see it, the major bandwidth drainages are the imageboards, not the discussion boards.

Merging the boards now doesn't seem like it would make much sense as they could soon be split up again. Seperation / merging is also an issue more than slightly different from deleting a board completely.

16 Name: Anonymous 2005-05-27 01:19 ID:S96ZiAmW

>Cashing cheques from foreign countries costs a fuckload and takes a while to clear, which is why I abstain from it.

Is that the same for international money orders?

>>15
No, merging doesn't have much to do with the financial situation. I piped up because Squeeks mentioned he was waiting for more demand for it. I am also interested in the inclusion of those other topics. Sure it might be a "wapanese" board, but I think there isn't enough traffic for separate boards right now.

17 Name: Squeeks!!XjdwLWBy (Admin) 2005-05-27 12:32 ID:Heaven

>>16
I don't believe I can cash international money orders unless its issuer (aka the place you got it from) has a branch here. "Here" just happens to be Brisbane, Australia for me.

Final word: I am not merging the manga and anime boards. Too much fuck around when/if the boards ever separate. I will however look at offloading the videogames board, or something. Right now I've got my weekend for work, and setting up the new layout which gets applied to all the boards (bar this one).

18 Name: Anonymous 2005-06-08 13:20 ID:Heaven

The paypal button on the sidebar opens inside the sidebar. Can you add target="_top" to the <form> tag or something?

There should be a button on the "Donate" page as well, as the imageboards link directly there.

19 Name: Anonymous 2005-06-08 14:44 ID:5ujCgNfj

What about changes to the code to take off bandwidth? I am mostly thinking about these approaches:

http://4-ch.net/tech/kareha.pl/1100254230/8

http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1110938838

20 Name: Squeeks!!XjdwLWBy (Admin) 2005-06-08 15:03 ID:Heaven

>>18
Fixed.

>>19
Kareha already responds with HTTP 304 headers (Data not modified) and that alone saves a bit of bandwidth. Secondly the automatic l50 would be cool, but, threads here aren't long enough to make any big gain from it now.

21 Name: Anonymous 2005-06-09 06:36 ID:Heaven

22 Name: Anonymous 2005-06-09 21:46 ID:Heaven

I still don't see a donation button on the donation page...

23 Name: Squeeks!!XjdwLWBy (Admin) 2005-06-09 21:56 ID:Heaven

>>22

Stop blocking images from Paypal then.

24 Name: Anonymous 2005-06-10 08:06 ID:Heaven

Ah, right. hahaha

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