http://www.geekcoffee.net/archives/2005/05/microsoft_and_p.html
"Microsoft announced that they have created an alliance with Philips in order to merge the two worlds of consumer electronic devices and PCs. Under the deal, Philips will support Windows Media Audio, Video and Windows Media DRM 10 technology in its 'Nexperia' multimedia chips. Philips' chips are used in digital media receivers, video phones, portable MP3 players and many other consumer devices."
That's it, I'm not buying Philips anymore.
> That's it, I'm not buying Philips anymore.
I am having growing worries about this whole DRM bullshit, too.
Is there a list of producers / products that are free of DRM technology or incorporate them?
Buy cheapass Korean and Chinese products - they still subscribe to this strange notion of making devices which are useful to the customer.
Well... even if they do support this DRM crap, they still have to be backward compatable.
So I'm not sure where the problem is. :-)
Thankfully... my music is old enough to exist in vinyl records, a medium that has no DRM technology whatsoever. :-) Also, DVDs are nice and easy to rip ... since again, the latest DVDs still have to be compatable with first generation DVD players, which lack much of the DRM capability of newer players.
(Ohh... and can some mod kindly delete that crap >>5 threw in? ;-)
HD-DVD and Blu-ray will both fail. Too much DRM. Consumers hate DRM.
Are you serious? Consumers don't know what DRM is. Consumers != Nerds. And if you understood that, you're in the latter category.
Sony rootkit, anyone?
I'll bet most people never even heard about the XDCP story. Also, you can hardly extrapolate from that to DRM in general.
"If consumers even know there's a DRM, what it is, and how it works, we've already failed," Peter Lee, executive at Disney.
Whee...
Heh... what the big commercial people forget... is that their CDs, still must be playable one way or the other.
If they make it so you need a modern CD player, that's fine... but:
(1) They've got to justify the cost of a new player to non-technical people.
(2) There's nothing stopping one plugging the CD player Line-Out into the Line-In socket on their computer, and ripping the Olde Fashoned way. I rip music off vinyl records, tape and radio this way.
(3) Even in the absense of such sockets one can still rip by sitting a microphone in front of the player, in a quiet place. One Cold Chisel MP3 I had was recorded that way. (now replaced by a rip from a CD I legally own)
They could put some sort of noise to foil the analogue ripping techniques... but then you're going to upset the non-technical folk with good hearing... and you're really going to rial the audio enthusiasts.
So whatever the industry does... there's already a few very viable alternatives to work around the DRM. And there's nothing they can do about it.
I say let them shoot themselves in the foot... it's not like we're loosing anything. :-)
Well okay here's something to think about. Those "CD's" you get from HMV, Virgin, whatever that are DRMed up with whatever aren't allowed to show the official "CD" logo, because they don't meet the Orange/Red Book standards for CD Audio. Now, iirc Phillips owns all the rights to that. Now that Phillips is getting themselves into the DRM game.. errrmmm.. fuck.
It doesn't say Philips intends to make corrupt CDs.
By the way, where's the real article on this? >>1's link just points to a blog with no source cited.
A quick search for http://www.google.com/search?q=Philips+DRM+Microsoft gives out a bunch of links, including one from "semiconductors.philips.com".
But beware that they all date back to May 2005, which is when I posted the original link. I dunno the current (December 2005) state of affairs reguarding the deal.
DRM is like CD protection. Even though at first no one really knew what it was as it annoyed legitimate consumers. This crap partnership is just another step towards provoking people to not feel remorse when promoting/commiting piracy.