Home Office for "Noma Neko" problem for foreigners (169)

63 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-09-25 21:12 ID:Heaven

> Hiroyuk

"Hiroyuki"

orz

64 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-09-26 05:42 ID:Heaven

>>33 Agreed, Thx.

>>28 Thank you very much I understood your comment and appreciate your suggestion. This translation form

(5minutes.) can not be done without original author, translator, and you people like lots of help. The reason why I am

not involved is, I do not have a time to do and takes long to.
original
http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/news/2729/1126335171/r1
Modified
http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/news/2729/1126335171/r58
Foe example, I modified a letter, but took 1 hour and a person that asked sent already after all. So please accept

my excuse for the making words. I prefer writing without sample or translation. Also, this replacement is like a job to

do for me. That makes me feel like taking sometime. Sorry for that.

"avex" is a logo for them, so I put all avex and "" to emphasize.
http://www.avex.co.jp/

>>59 Thank you for your comment. I took "forums".
Things are new and fresh. This was a good adventure of the words for me.

If some more line on the page can help to understand to the readers, please contact.

>>29 and others will be taken care later.

So, by this amendment, this page version could be 1.7 now. Let's cerebrate!

65 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-09-26 05:46 ID:Heaven

Sorry, Line breaking happens by multi software usage between hyper text and nomal text for the purpose of speller. orz

66 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-09-26 05:49 ID:Heaven

.. and miss spell spills.. orz

67 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-09-26 08:17 ID:Heaven

68 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-09-26 11:26 ID:Heaven

Indymedia UK, this is another nice one.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/09/324172.html

69 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-09-26 12:02 ID:Heaven

>>61-62 supplemental
FYI
water bouget is...
http://images.google.co.jp/images?q=water+bouget
...not Ayumi Hamasaki's "A" desgin.

70 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-09-26 15:37 ID:Heaven

>>67-68
Getting close! GJ!

71 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-09-26 21:34 ID:RbCo8f2U

Can someone explain >>61 for me a bit?

72 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-09-26 21:41 ID:NO5toC3d

>>71
It seems like Hiroyuki, webmaster of 2channel, took Avex' logo and turned it into a new 2channel mascot to mock them and also test legal water.

But it would be cool if somebody could point out a source where he posted that e-mail content originally.

73 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-09-26 22:43 ID:Heaven

>>70 Thx!
>>72
All in Japanese.
http://2ch.net/nomatako/
Posted to
avexonline@avexnet.or.jp

Cution:
It was not to avex group holdings.
Guess becasue avex group holdings announced at avex net HP.(JPN)
http://ecweb1.avexnet.or.jp/sa4web/050908noma.htm
Noamally, open letter sent via post, but this time he e-mailed.

74 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-09-27 07:11 ID:Heaven

>>73
Ah, thanks for the info. What does the avex group announcement say?

On a related note: I ❤ VIPPERS
http://www.nomatako.com/

75 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-09-27 08:35 ID:Heaven

>>74
See also >>61
==========
Friday, 23 September 2005
AVEX has annouced an official statement about NomaNeko issue.
We deeply apologize for causing confusion and misunderstanding on registeration of
a trademark of NomaNeko which actual registeration has been made by ZEN.
We did not explain our situation with details enough.

As we are doing it as business, we always are eager to promote certain goods
more and more following reaction of the market. This trademark, however, works only
in NomaNeko which is planned to be promoted as our charcter.
This registeretion is not to ristrict your rights to use Mona or other AAs of course.
Hereby we repeatedly emphasize, this registeration was made only on NomaNeko which namely
means that it does not ristrict any use of other AAs such as Mona, Shii etc.

Let us apologize for those who love AA characters and who have brought them up
that our business on NomaNeko was not considered well enough. We, AVEX group, are
deeply repentant.

Sigh......
Great job, folk. Nothing to say such an excuse (it does not even look like an excuse to
me, thuogh.....) Let me shout, ITTE YOSHI!!

How could a big coorporation like AVEX do such a terrible thing?
I want to ask AVEX on it for about an hour.....
Seeing this statement reminded me of AVEX that they have no ethics on business again.
Too tired to see it.
=======
Picked from -> Update tips
http://monseurmonar.tripod.com/saveourbelovedmonar/

76 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-09-27 08:37 ID:Heaven

77 Name: 74 2005-09-27 08:39 ID:Heaven

Oh, ok. Thanks!

I like this thread.

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78 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-09-27 12:47 ID:Heaven

wrap up around the world
=News tip=
Mainichi
h ttp://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/entertainment/news/20050913p2a00m0et014000c.html
Business.com
h ttp://www.business.com/directory/media_and_entertainment/avex_inc/
WARCRY NETWORK http://www.warcry.com/scripts/columns/view_sectionalt.phtml?site=15&id=108&colid=8037
Indymedia UK http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/09/324172.html
TOPIX.NET (O-Zone News) h ttp://www.topix.net/who/o-zone
ascii art http://www.freesearcharticles.com/articles/art/ascii_art.html

=Update tips -blog=
Santos Anna (Vocal of Bon-Bon Blanco; avex artist)
http://santoslove.exblog.jp/3470562/
blogjam " Blog Archive " save mona
h ttp://www.blogjam.com/2005/09/15/save-mona/
WRT: Writer Response Theory " Blog Archive " Two Character-Art Cats (Jeremy Douglass)
http://wrt.ucr.edu/wordpress/2005/09/16/two-character-art-cats/

Save our beloved Monar! =An AA character is facing danger=
http://monseurmonar.tripod.com/saveourbelovedmonar/
Save our beloved MONAR! We do NOT need a copy!
h ttp://blog.livedoor.jp/monarmonarmonar/archives/50047604.html
Direct from the World
http://worlddirect.blogspot.com/

79 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-09-27 13:14 ID:Heaven

Amendment: Santos Anna seems not an avex artist. She seems to belong Colombia records.

80 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-09-27 22:55 ID:Heaven

Amendment
Santos Anna (Vocal of Bon-Bon Blanco)
http://santoslove.exblog.jp/3470562/
above is fun's blog, not her's

81 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-09-27 23:17 ID:Heaven

Nomatako is quite cute ^^
In any case, keep up the good work EJwriter! ^^b Thank you :)

82 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-09-28 11:23 ID:Heaven

> WRT: Writer Response Theory " Blog Archive " Two Character-Art Cats (Jeremy Douglass)

That's a pretty interesting article. The site itself is very interesting, too. Good coverage!

83 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-09-30 08:34 ID:Heaven

Japanese
http://ecweb1.avexnet.or.jp/sa4web/050930info.htm
avex announced today, no flash use in selling CDs for further madia sales and withdraw a trademark process. I want to declare a settlement of the war. Please leave a comment to anybody whom like to do it.

84 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-09-30 08:35 ID:Heaven

They keep selling Noma Neko, anyway. Guess afreaid of dead stock.

85 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-09-30 10:00 ID:Heaven

Now, this thread is in a "cease-fire" mode.

86 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-01 01:55 ID:ayDzWse/

ある日のエイベックス本社での様子


カタカタカタ「ヌッコロス」っと
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87 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-10-01 04:33 ID:Heaven

Annoyed...

88 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-01 06:08 ID:Heaven

What's the current situation?

* Avex won't use the infamous flashes on the CDs they are selling anymore
* Avex is not going to register Nomaneko as a trademark anymore
* Avex will keep selling Nomaneko dolls & plushies

Correct?

89 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-10-01 09:18 ID:Heaven

Seems so.
Netizens force company to abandon copycat character
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/entertainment/news/20051001p2a00m0et010000c.html

90 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-01 09:23 ID:Heaven

So, is this victory or not? Is it enough?

91 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-10-01 09:54 ID:Heaven

Majority says no.
We (our part, English related) have first quiet weekend since our first move, September.

92 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-01 17:30 ID:Heaven

Someone should write a Wikipedia article on this

93 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-01 18:01 ID:boxgpn8l

It could be done as subcategory of the already existing 2ch article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2ch
I see they mention Masahiro Tashiro on there, I don't see why Nomaneko couldn't be featured.

Of course, I am too lazy to do this myself now. ヽ(●´ε`●)ノ

94 Name: 93 2005-10-01 18:01 ID:Heaven

> Masahiro Tashiro

Of course that should be "Masashi Tashiro"

orz

95 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-05 16:04 ID:8C4OQTPv

96 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-05 16:19 ID:jx0HKh83

lol death threats

97 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-05 16:27 ID:Heaven

kopiped from >>95

> The news at noon on Japanese TV has been reporting death threats on the CEO of Avex Records (only reports in Japanese so far) ...

Omea Mona death threats
FNN-news.com, 2005/10/04 11:54
http://www.fnn-news.com/headlines/CONN00078259.html

Excite Translation:
http://tinyurl.com/b6ljl

Nifty Translation:
http://tinyurl.com/exlpz

Realmedia for low bandwidth
http://www.fnn-news.com/realvideo/sp2005100401_G2.ram

Realmedia for high bandwidth
http://www.fnn-news.com/realvideo/sp2005100401_300.ram

100 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-10-08 00:18 ID:Heaven

101 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-09 02:57 ID:4jCipyjv

102 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-09 03:00 ID:M+5WfA3Z

sugoi sugoi

103 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-09 06:42 ID:Caa7GJGy

>>101
Wait, wasn't this already confirmed?
What about the sales of the Nomaneko plushies? Will Avex continue this?

104 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-10-09 10:02 ID:Heaven

Right. Not yet settled.
They said withdraw, but not yet confirmed.
Sales not stoped.

Media says so, but President was not apologised.

Seems they did a lot and and Netizens still claimed, but truth is, nothing has done.

The company will make another announcement after the weekend (means nest Tuesday). We should see it.

105 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-09 16:50 ID:hSQMy6rj

(´・ω・) I was in Akihabara today and there were like three 2ch-ers protesting against Nomaneko outside the train station.

There was also this -> http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5911/nomanoma5fe.jpg

106 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-10-10 01:54 ID:Heaven

Trip for the death threats has been clarified.
#antiavex

107 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-10 07:52 ID:E1V8e9Dw

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108 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-10 08:01 ID:E1V8e9Dw

Translated kopipe:

This is Nomeneko! ∧_∧   
           ( *゚∀゚*)

This is Monar!   ∧_∧  / ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄
          ( ´∀`)< Was the permission of Omaira and Netts Japan obtained? Probably not!
          (    )  \_____________________________
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COPYRIGHT 2005 NETTS JAPAN CO., LTD. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
COPYRIGHT 2005 OMAEMONA ALMOST RESERVERD.

<丶`∀´> Coming up next: Original content from Korea, nida nida! kekeke

109 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-10 08:01 ID:E1V8e9Dw

↑ Question: Who are Omaira and Netts Japan? How are they relevant in this?

110 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-10-10 08:50 ID:Heaven

Netts Japan
http://www.darkstory.jp/event/050921_evt5.asp

Guess, Netts Japan (game selling company) took monar for it, as a company. avex took noma neko to it, as a company.
"Omaira, netizens usage as omaera" means "you are" or "you guys". In this case, 2ch net users.

111 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-10 09:05 ID:E1V8e9Dw

>>110
I am not sure I understood correctly.

Netts Japan is a company who sells games and somehow included Monar in their games?
Or did they include Monar as a mascot of sorts?
And they did not change the name of Monar to something else?
And did they claim copyright to Monar?

Lastly, has this been a recent thing or did this happen a long time ago? If it happened some time before the Avex thing, whatever did 2channelers do about it?

112 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-10 10:38 ID:E1V8e9Dw

Hm, I wanted to ask the same questions on http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/news/2729/1126769100/l10
but I got this error:
ホスト規制中!

Dunno why, I was able to write in there earlier...

113 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-10 10:39 ID:E1V8e9Dw

Also, I just realized that "Noma" is simply an anagram of "Mona"...

114 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-10 11:21 ID:Heaven

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VIPPERS are pretty awesome.
Currently, they have the 375th thread on the Nomaneko/Avex issue going on:
http://ex11.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/news4vip/1128929370/

Remember that each 2ch thread only goes up to 1000 replies. That's 375,000 posts on the VIP board only about this issue. Imagine that!

115 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-10 11:23 ID:Heaven

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116 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-10-11 09:25 ID:Heaven

>>112
ホスト規制中 means "The host is being restricted"
means someone did something bad through the host and traffic has been restricted. Took someday to revcover.

117 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-10-11 09:34 ID:Heaven

>>111
Guess, Netts Japan did right thing for 2ch. It was a collaboration with Netts and 2ch. Press released on Sept 20th. Netts is proper, avex didi was conqueror.

118 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-12 04:42 ID:Heaven

>>116-117
Thanks for clearing that up!

119 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-10-12 22:09 ID:Heaven

Yesterday, avex announced and we are checking, agian.
Now, this thread is in a "cease-fire" mode, again.

120 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-10-14 23:51 ID:9JE2fI4T

It seems we won.

avex;
Stopped license;pict (9/30)
Apologized (10/14)
Announced license charge withdrawal (10/14)
Stopped selling "Noma Neko" goods at their site (10/14)

*Taito sells goods and license charge will be taken as their profit. Someone complains that amount must go to someshere for disaster healing.

Now, avex, there is no reason to be targeted.

121 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-15 15:19 ID:f0X5E1Zw

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122 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-16 00:43 ID:4jCipyjv

>>120
TOTAL VICTORY!!

I don't see an English story yet on Google News.

123 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-16 04:38 ID:WVCcvdbR

We still have to come up with a Wikipedia entry for this...

124 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-16 04:54 ID:WVCcvdbR

Okay, okay, me first then.

Info that would be needed (that I can think of from the top of my head):

When was the flash first linked from 2channel?

When did Avex first sell the OZONE CD with the flash on it?

When exactly did Avex come up with "Nomaneko"?

125 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-16 04:56 ID:WVCcvdbR

I guess most of these questions can be fetched from the Japanese Wikipedia entry for "Nomaneko"...

I'll just link it for now:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%81%AE%E3%81%BE%E3%83%8D%E3%82%B3

126 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-16 07:58 ID:D6ZmbG3N

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127 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V 2005-10-21 10:27 ID:nCZSiRfS

Somebody wrote a little bit about this in the MONA article on Wikipedia, maybe it can be incorporated into the 2channel article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_%28ASCII_art%29

128 Name: EJwriter!J1L5I6PESM 2005-10-22 05:28 ID:Heaven

Outsider confirmed "Nomaneko" license withdrawal was dated Oct. 3rd and accepted by officails on the same date.
(Japanese)
http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/protectmona/imgs/e/a/ea075f55.jpg

129 Name: VIPPER 2005-11-27 15:16 ID:iLpQ9+H9

"SOREGA VIP QUALITY"

It was lounge@2ch.net work.

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150 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V : 2006-05-24 00:59 ID:P8tnhwoI

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151 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V : 2006-05-24 03:03 ID:Heaven

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 ( ・∀・) < 'Needs more AA!
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156 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V : 2006-05-25 02:01 ID:Heaven

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157 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V : 2006-05-25 09:12 ID:ppZds+Lt

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      (*`Д´)/ ̄/ ̄/ SOMEBODY SET US UP THE BOMB
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162 Name: CTRL+C & CTRL+V : 2006-05-26 06:27 ID:1aRsLt/a

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      (*`Д´)/ ̄/ ̄/ Stop fucking spamming!
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