I don't really talk about anything with anyone verbally, but on the internet I can talk about whatever I want most of the time, and I can't do that in real life... Who else here doesn't talk in a social setting but is always talking online?
I don't talk at all.
i like listening to sex machineguns in my math class...
I have a similar problem in fact when I met my girlfriend I couldn't talk to her at all in real life but online I talked to her like everyday >.>
I am much more talkative online than in person initially.
Don't worry about it.
Society is a waste of time.
>>7
i disagree very strongly, what you said is an excuse to try and justify your fears of going out and socialising
live. interact with others, it is necessary for the world we live in today
a question ive always wanted to know is why are the majority of people on this bored very socially inept?
is it because of the internet? and people found ways to entertain themselves at home, and so cus of that they spend less time outdoors, and more indoors, and so they lose their outdoor friends. because of this they delve even more into the internet to avoid the sorrow, and so the internet gives them temporary happiness. but underneath, people have a yearning to interact socially, which is why threads like this exist, and justifications like 7's post exist.
i have nothing against the socially inept and people who spend alot of their time alone, it seems true that spending time alone is increasingly unpopular these days.
humans are more than they appear to be. humans are not their behaviour; change the behaviour to change the person.
bottom line:
try harder and don't look back.
I love all the psychology PHDs on this board that make professional analyses with absolutely no background information. It would seem more likely that they are projecting their former selves on other people.
Bottom line:
Take your prejudice assumptions and high-school psychology class elsewhere to spare us of your utter failure.
>>8
People on this board are socially inept because they suck at life. Participating on this board doesn't necessarily make them so, as in they were struggling to establish relationships with between others. They probably already were by this point, but it probably doesn't help in most cases.
> what you said is an excuse to try and justify your fears of going out and socialising
"According to freud, this dream means that you want to have Sex with your mother." "But I didn't even tell you about my dream yet!" "Freud never lets the details get in the way!"
> interact with others, it is necessary for the world we live in today
So, talking online doesn't count as interacting? Social interaction may be neccesary for a normal human being, but "social interaction" doesn't neccesarily mean talking face to face.
> why are the majority of people on this bored very socially inept?
What makes you think that the majority of people are socially inept on this board? You have statistics or something?
> and so they lose their outdoor friends
I am online a lot. I am not socially inept. I did not lose any of my "outdoor friends". Socially inept people have always existed, only now they have found ways to communicate with each other, which was not possible before. The internet does not create people that suck at life.
> People on this board are socially inept because they suck at life.
Eh? People are socially inept because... they are socially inept? So, its BEACUSE YOU SAID SO OMG!!?
> but it probably doesn't help in most cases.
On the contrary, in most cases, it probably helps. Talking to people, online or not, about your problems helps more often than not.
It doesn't help me. Knowing there are others that are in similar situations doesn't make me feel any better about myself, nor does it help me to solve me problems.
Society IS a waste of time.
Maybe you just weren't smart enough to understand what I said.
Society IS a waste of time.
Do whatever the hell you want. Be a recluse, be a sociopath.
Whatever.
Never base your life around a Society that leans toward Socialism, Communism, and Democracy.
you know, electrical power stations, electrical appliances, networking hardware, public healthcare system can just work without people either being forced to learn to operate them or spending 14 years learning stuff to get paid to operate them.
>>13
Also, lies. Society rocks. Domocracy is not perfect, but it's better than anything else someone has come up with.
Just think about it: In a facistic society ala soviet russia or the third reich, how long would you have survived? People who refuse to leave the house, thats not what your government wants. You'd be the first one to go to jail/labor camp.
Democrazy is awesome because it makes raping billions of people alright!
Domocrocy wtf
Interacting with people is not necessary for the world we live in today. It may have been relatively necessary, but nowadays computers and machines are limiting the need for social interaction. I can go years without having to actually talk to people and I can still survive in this world.
I don't need social interaction and that is a fact.
Soviet Russia was not fascist. It was communist. Fascism and communism are not the same thing. They are like opposites.
>>Interacting with people is not necessary for the world we live in today. It may have been relatively necessary, but nowadays computers and machines are limiting the need for social interaction. I can go years without having to actually talk to people and I can still survive in this world.
I think that's a lie. Humans a social creatures. There's really not much we can do about it. It's natural instinct to want the company of others.
>>18
Soviet Russia was not communist. It was socialist. Communism and socialism are not the same thing. They are like opposites.
That is like saying that China is not communist. China is communist, but is one of the biggest capitalist countries in the world. Just because Communism doesn't work, doesn't mean that it isn't meant to be communist.
I don't naturally want the company of others. Does that make me not a human being? Cause last time I checked, I was a human being.
"The words socialism and communism were used almost interchangeably in the beginnings of the socialist movement, prior to the formation of communism as a distinct movement. People chose to use one or the other on the basis of perceived attitude to religion. In Europe communism was considered to be the more atheistic of the two; whereas in England that sounded too close to communion with Catholic overtones, hence atheists preferred to call themselves socialists."
Think before you type, dipshit.
To all of you liberal hippies
I am 13 and I would get along great in a fascist world, it would be so awesome.
First of all, I'd still be an enemy of society, but Fascism is like an awesome girl that just won't quit. So I'd be into it until I got bored and decided to become a recluse once more.
But seriously, society is for the weak. Just like Democracy.
Sorry to scare all you sheep, who bleat in chorus.
>>27
"Socialism refers to a broad array of doctrines or political movements that envisage a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to social control."
"Communism is an ideology that seeks to establish a future classless, stateless social organization or society, based upon common ownership of the means of production and the absence of private property."
Think before you type, dipshit.
>>28
Soviet Russia was not communist. The soviet government did not seek to establish a future classless, stateless social organization or society. They were quite happy with just making themselves the ruling class and saying "fuck you" to everyone else.
Russia was headed by the Communist Party, you asshat. Communist doesn't work, that is why it ended up so fucked up. But that doesn't mean it wasn't a communist country.
And communism is a branch of socialism. It fucking came from socialism. They are not like opposites.
>>31
As you said, it didn't work, and therefore turned into a facist state. Any chance for real communism in russia ended when Stalin took over around 1930. Just because they called themselves the communist party doesn't make them communist.
>decided to become a recluse once more
Recluse = No use for us = Let's just kill them. That's how it works in practical facism.
>bleat in chorus
Like, the thing you do when following a facist government? "Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg?" "JAAAAAAAAAA!"
This "society for the weak" is the only reason you can live like you do, do you realize that? Also, when it comes to that war thing, facism is weak and democracy rocks facisms ass big time.
You sad, sad, pitiful pawn of Democracy and Left Wing Lies.
Open your eyes and awaken! You do not have to be a puppet of Democracy or society. You don't have to be a mere sheep.
In a Fascist society, I would not be bored. It would be awesome. I would love every moment of it and I could die proud and happy. It's like everyday would have a purpose and a goal. But if I ever did get bored, I would not be useless. I would merely be inactive. Not everyone in a Fascist Utopia is a worker bee, there are those who get to enjoy their leisure and the fruits of their Fascist Paradise.
In a Fascist World, we would not bleat like you docile lambs. We would sing Viking Warsongs from our Guts and the fire within. We would cry out for magic and power. We would pay tribute to Valkyries and the Power within our Ancestor's hearts. It would be a mighty, thunderous row that would terrify the undermen from leagues afar.
Democracy is for the weak. Free Will is an illusion. Look BEYOND the left wing lies. See the cusp of eternity. The Coal haired Valkyrie with the pale, skin Weiss soll Schneit....
She hold's the Chalice of true liberation from the shackles of Democracy and Liberalism.
>>33
Mediocre troll attempt or dumb-funniest post you've seen in a while: You decide.
USSR = Communist. How you can argue that simple fact, I will never know. Next you are going to tell us that the USA is an anarchism or that Fiji doesn't really exist and is just a figment of many people's imaginations. Nice try, but no. Saying that a communist country was fascist is literally like saying that black is white.
Political theory != reality.
In the end, life was pretty much the same in Nazi Germany and Stalin Russia. You love the state, the dictator, and if you had any independant or regime-critic thoughts you were killed.
But you would just be a weak losers like you are now and wouldn't make it past your childhood.
Look, even the USSR didn't claim to be communist, they were socialist and intended to acheive communism in the future. They didn't succeed of course, but thats not neccesarily because socialism/communism is a bad idea, it hasn't really been tried. No-one can say communism can't work when no-one has come even close.
>>39
As long as there is human nature, communism cannot work. We need to act like the Borg.
There can never be a true communist state because people love power.
If you seriously think that people haven't tried to form a Communist state then you are seriously fucked in the head.
In the end, you realise that only on the internet can you argue that the USSR was not commnunist. I don't know anyone in real life with the balls to say that the USSR was not communist state. I think mainly because people want to avoid looking like complete fools. At least you can hide behind the anonymity of the internet.
I'm not a loser. I'm secure enough in my awesomeness to advocate what weaker people fear.
Nice try though.
>>42
"You're wrong because you suck!" is a pretty weak argument, you know, and "EVERYONE knows that I am right!" isn't really convincing, either.
The USSR was, in fact, not communist. Think about it.
In communism, the power should come, in some way, from the people (How this works depends on which theory you like best).
In the USSR, which chose Leninism, elections were held, but most of the time there was only one canidate (Selected by the leaders of the Communist party) on the ballot, so they were basically useless.
So, if the people had no power at all in the USSR, then who had? The leaders of the Communist party (Stalin etc.), and no one else. This leaves us with two classes of people, those with power and those without. Which sounds a lot like the thing that communism is supposed to not have.
Later in history, the USSR became more and more capitalist and finally collapsed.
>>43
You're VIP quality, that's what you are.
In soviet Russia Social skill don't have you!
>>42
They tried to form a communist state and failed. I'm not denying that. Mistakes were made, I am not a communist but I still think that just because the USSR failed, it doesn't mean by default that communism won't work because the USSR was far from ideal. I don't know whether communism can work or not, to me its just a theory that has never been put into practice and maybe it never will.
>"You're wrong because you suck!" is a pretty weak argument, you know, and "EVERYONE knows that I am right!" isn't really convincing, either.
When did I say that?
I don't even need to argue that I am right. You can read it yourself in any decent history book. Stop trying to call an apple an orange.
>When did I say that?
"If you seriously think that people haven't tried to form a Communist state then you are seriously fucked in the head."
>I don't even need to argue that I am right.
Well, my history book (and the internet, lol) suggest otherwise. They say that the soviet union was about as communist as the third reich, that for example Hitler, who hated communism and wanted to remove it from this world (With pre-WWII propaganda talking about the "Jüdisch-kommunistische Verschwörung"/"Jewish-communist conspiracy") was one of Stalin's best buddys. So you will have to argue to convince me that you are right.
This is the interbutt. Anyone who disagrees with me is automatically wrong.
arguing on the internet, special olympics etc.
>"If you seriously think that people haven't tried to form a Communist state then you are seriously fucked in the head."
what parts of "You're wrong because you suck!" and "EVERYONE knows that I am right!" fit into what I said...
>They say that the soviet union was about as communist as the third reich, that for example Hitler, who hated communism and wanted to remove it from this world (With pre-WWII propaganda talking about the "Jüdisch-kommunistische Verschwörung"/"Jewish-communist conspiracy") was one of Stalin's best buddys.
The USSR was one of the allies fighting against Nazi Germany. Do you know anything about WWII?
>>51
Before 1941, there was a pact (signed shortly before WWII started) known as the Hitler-Stalin pact or Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, a nonagression treaty between the USSR and Germany that had a secret part in which the USSR and Germany agreed on how to split up the north and east of europe.
The USSR and Germany invaded poland together, and the war between the USSR and Germany only began when Hitler broke the treaty in 1941, and began invading. Also, Stalin was proably (Though thats something historians can't quite agree on...) preparing to invade Germany, and Hitler was mereley a little bit faster. They were both of the same kind, with only minor differences in the method they used to control their citizens.
You could probably call what was happening is Russia "Realistic communism" ("Realkommunismus"); the thing communism becomes in the real world because some people will always want to have more power. It certainly wasn't what Marx thought of.
It is still communism. It doesn't matter what it became, or what it looked like, the fact of the matter is that it was in fact a communist country. I was never arguing how it was intended and how it fell short of that. I was arguing that they called themselves communists and everyone else called them communists. They were communists.
You people are nothing like the Communists they show on TV.
Read some Marx, bro. Communism can, according to Marx, never be forced upon a people and never be pushed as an agenda. It is the natural end point of capitalist society and will happen when it happens.
Not saying he was right, of course. I'm more partial to Francis Fukuyama's idea of the End of History, myself.
>>53 Read some Marx, bro.
Yeah, someone should have said that to Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Bela Kun, Ho Chi Minh, Fidel Castro, and dozens more.
Of course, historically, people who dared to speak such thoughts to the self-proclaimed Maximum Leader of the Revolution (srsly, this is what Daniel Ortega called himself in Nicaragua in the 80s) generally ended up in an unmarked grave.