What the hell is bottling?
It's the (convenient) practice of storing your waste in bottles. There are several benefits to this. First, doing so means you don't need to leave your room/computer every time you get the urge to pee. Anybody who spends a fair time at the computer would be able to understand how nice bottling makes things.
Second, it's also kinder to the environment. Most people flush every time they pee, even though they only release a miniscule amount of urine, yet every flush uses up about three gallons of water. Think of how many times a day you stop into the bathroom to pee and you'll understand just how much water is being pointlessly wasted.
Water
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resource!
It's just laziness/fear of leaving one's room. The "kinder to the environment" story is just a false excuse.
Also, it would be more beneficial to recycle your plastics/glasses rather than pee and poop in them.
Well...it is reusing them at least.
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That still doesn't mean that it can't be wasted. Food can just be grown, but that doesn't mean throwing Thanksgiving dinner out the window isn't a complete waste.
Most bottlers do recycle the bottles eventually. Using them to store your waste for a short time doesn't mean that you can't recycle them later. It's a simple matter to do.
This thread is fucking disgusting.
>Food can just be grown, but that doesn't mean throwing Thanksgiving dinner out the window isn't a complete waste.
That doesn't make sense. You can't compare water with food.
>>10 That doesn't make sense. You can't compare water with food.
That doesn't make sense. You can't say he can't compare water with food.
one time i bottled without even thinking about it, i was jsut sitting down at my desktop, opened a bottle and started without even thinking.
>>11 That doesn't make sense. You can't say he can't compare water with food.
That doesn't make sense. You can't say he can't say he can't compare water with food.
That's nice. Now how about actually trying to explain why you think that is so? In reality, there's nothing disgusting about it. It isn't any different from going to the restroom aside from the fact that it is far, far more convenient. Can you come up with something beyond a knee-jerk reaction like, "...It just is!"
It's gross to me for someone to store their waste anywhere in their living quarters. If you care about wasting water so much, go poop in your back yard! Build an outhouse! Just don't fill your room up with urine-filled gatorade bottles.
I don't see why. It's less disgusting than going to the bathroom to do it. Due to the way you pee in to the bottle, you should never touch a single drop of urine, and it's nearly impossible for some to spray off-target, unlike when you're aiming into a toilet. Your waste never touches anything but the inside of the bottle, and as long as you close the cap tightly, there is zero chance of it ever spilling.
It's not as though the urine will magically seep through the container, so there's nothing to worry about. Also, you only need to store them for as long as you decide you want to. You can empty and throw away the bottles anytime you wish, so space shouldn't be an issue.
>>16
there is a reason that civilised society abandoned chamberpots and invented bathrooms
it's so we don't live where we piss/shit, plus, once you move out of your mother's basement and in with other people, god forbid a family, nobody wants to watch you whip it out in your chair.
You aren't being fair in your argument. I never claimed that you should go to the bathroom while other people are present, so I'm not sure why you're trying to make it seem that way. Also, chamberpots are quite different than sealed, airtight containers that can easily be stored somewhere or emptied at your own leisure.
>>18
So you think visitors aren't going to think anything when you say, "Wait in the living room, I gotta throw out my pee"? Face it, this is a practice only shut-ins do. Any reason to pee and poop in a bottle besides not wanting to leave your room is only trying to justify yourself.
>>Face it, this is a practice only shut-ins do.
I never said otherwise.
Even so, it's something that would benefit anybody, especially those that spend large amounts of time in front of the computer. I think everybody should give it a try, at least.
>>20
It certainly isn't going to help them get over their anxienty and move into the real world.
>>22
People who won't even leave their room to go to the bathroom probably have a very unhealthy diet and have "the runs" 24/7.
That's my guess, anyways!
I don't think anyone actually does this (except for Martin Random's roommate). The original poster is just trolling and laughing his ass off.
haha martin random's roommate. oh god i need to read that again
If you really believe that, then you are incredibly naive. I'm not the original poster, but I am >>2 from the prievious thread, and I've been the one explaining bottling here in this thread as well.
It's something that many people do, and I don't like that it's so misunderstood, because it's something that can benefit pretty much anybody due to how convenient it is. You simply place the tip of your penis against the bottle's mouth and release. No fuss, no muss, and pretty much zero chance of spraying off-course and making a mess.
Like I've said, if you use those Gatorade bottles with the large mouths, it's fairly easy. After training yourself on those and getting the mechanics down, you should be able to move on to narrower bottles. From what I understand, the fecal matter will "form" to the width of the bottle's mouth and push its way through easily.
>>26
What "hikkis" do not understand is convenience does not always = benefit
Convenience is a benefit, I'd say. This goes for anyone, really, but especially those that spend vast amounts of time in one place.
Just try it and you'll understand.
hahahaha, when i clicked this thread, i thought it was gonna be about bottling up ur feelings inside or something like that and releasing em later on someone or watever, but, this is way more fun than that =D
>>29
You just don't seem to understand how gross the concept is to normal people.
You just don't seem to be able to get past your initial, knee-jerk reaction that is completely baseless. If you actually understand the facts of the matter, then you know that there isn't anything gross about it.
Okay! Why don't you go out into public and take a vote, asking people if they would ever poop and pee in a bottle. Don't forget to explain its convenience! Listen:
Oh, and I just thought of something. If you poop into bottles, do you wipe yourself? And if you do, where do you dispose of the wiping material? Do you have a toilet paper holder installed on your desk?
>>Why don't you go out into public and take a vote, asking people if they would ever poop and pee in a bottle.
Because they're sure to consider the question in a fair, thoughtful manner, right? No, they would be just as unfair as you're being now. You're still letting your initial knee-jerk reaction cloud your sense of logic.
It is in no way awkward to urinate into a bottle. How could you even think so? You simply place the tip of your member against the mouth of the bottle and go. Is the diameter of your urethra larger than the mouth of a bottle? That's the only way I could see it being difficult. Once you get the mechanics down, you can do it free-handed.
>>I do not want to see bottles full of waste in my room ... I want to come into as little contact with my and other living things' waste as possible.
You can easily hide them in some way. Keeping them in a box under your bed or in your closet, or throwing a blanket over them. This would also help to keep your practice from being discovered by somebody else if you're self-conscious about it (you do seem to have a few self-consciousness issues, no offense).
As for not wanting to come into contact with anything, you seem to be completely ignoring what I've said a number of times. You should never come into contact with a single drop of waste, and even if you did, that's something that could happen even if you went to the bathroom and used a toilet. It isn't impossible for a stream of urine to spray off course every now and then. In fact, this is what makes bottling even cleaner than using a toilet; there is no chance of spraying off-target onto the floor or the toilet seat because your stream is aimed directly into the mouth of the bottle with nowhere else to go.
>>I do not want to carry bottles full of my waste to the garbage. It's very inconvenient.
It doesn't have to be. You make the call as to when the bottles get discarded. You can wait for as long as you want, bringing them out whenever you have the free time or are going to be bringing something else out, or you could even just store them indefinitely.
Also, there's no need to be under the impression that the practice of bottling is for the hardcore only. It could be as simple as urinating into half a bottle just because you didn't feel like getting up from the computer. Later, when you're finished with whatever you were doing, you could empty out the bottle. What I'm saying is, you could do it casually, still using the restroom most of the time. It doesn't necessarily have to be one over the other.
Way to go glorifying laziness as though it were something to be nurtured...
Maybe we can rename General to Hikkies Anonymous, cause that's what it's becoming...
why not just pee out the window instead? it's even more convenient because you don't have to worry about disposing of bottles full of waste.
I notice that you neglected to answer how you go about cleaning yourself after defecating into the bottles. It's probably more convenient to just not do it, right? Cleanliness is so inconvenient, and so unnecessary since you never leave your room anyways.
Yes, most people are rather tight is their uses of the word "cleanliness." Most human waste is sterile, so it's pretty clean already.
There are people that do that, but there are drawbacks and tell-tale signs. First, if you keep that up long enough, there is a very obvious smell. Also, from what I hear, it can leave marks on paint, and it can also kill plants. There's also the possibility of someone in a neighboring house seeing you.
>>I notice that you neglected to answer how you go about cleaning yourself after defecating into the bottles.
I didn't because I personally don't do that. I don't see how it's as big a deal as >>33 is trying to make it seem, though. Many people keep tissues in their room. Also, wet wipes are fairly popular, too. They come in small, compact containers and are as good as washing your hands, so that eliminates another cleanliness problem I'm sure you'd bring up.
>>Yes, you don't seem to see how ANY of this is a big deal...
Do you actually have something to say here, or are you just looking to vent your frustrations in an indirect manner? I've clearly and directly addressed the arguments made in this thread, but it seems like I'm not getting the same consideration in return. It's fine if people like >>33 don't want to bottle, because it's a personal choice, but his arguments seem to be based solely on knee-jerk reactions and clouded logic, and he doesn't seem to be accepting what I say.
>>47
Do you really believe it's only a "knee-jerk reaction"? And please, please don't talk about anyone else's clouded logic other than yourself. What's LOGICAL is to get up and go to the room with the device made specifically for disposing of bodily waste. If bottling was a logical thing to do, bathrooms with toilets would be optional in this world.
The fact remains that I've countered each argument put forth, and you're still stuck in a "Ew, pee is dirty" mindset while failing to seriously reply to my counter-arguments. If you're >>33 , then you're still just hopping from argument to argument, desperately looking for something that will hold up against the truth of the matter. You couldn't find anything solid enough when it came to cleanliness and space issues, so now you seem to be trying to hide behind sarcasm and indirect, snarky remarks.
As I said, it's fine if you don't want to bottle, as it's a personal choice, but it isn't any of the things that the anti-bottlers here are trying to make it out to be.
I find bottling inconvenient, and I'm a half hikki. Infact, I think things like these make hikki sound disgusting. No animals such as dogs and cats would sleep or reside near their own waste. It is natural instinct. Even if you hide the waste, you can't forget it still exists in your room and you would naturally avoid it. You would believe that it is infected and sometime later on it will bring disease to yourself.
Bottling takes up space and it is very inconvenient to dispose of them one by one and emptying them. Also if you are not careful, accident may arise that you release it before you place the tip inside the mouth of the bottle and piss getting on the floor where you mostly stay. Go to the toilet and do your job and flush it down, easy and you don't have waste lying around your house and in your room. Instead of the incoveniency of bottling and the space it takes up, just go to bathroom as you would free yourself from storing and disposing of your waste in bottles.
You think you can get away with being lazy?
many many things are inconvenient, if you aren't going to put up with anything you find inconvenient, then I assure you this isn't a life for you. Life is full of inconvenience. Hikki sound really bad now because of this bottling. It is disgusting even for a half hikki like me. Lets just say not all hikkis does bottling. There are many hikkis that doesn't like bottling and find it hygienically unhealthy, me included.
>>51 is most likely the same anti-bottling person who's been trolling with sarcasm and indirect, snarky remarks. That post wasn't serious. He was using sarcasm and exaggeration to indirectly attack bottlers.
And for you, >>50, what is this "half-hikki" business? You either are or you aren't. Do you leave your house or not?
>>3
Oh so it wastes just as much water huh? COOL how does it get there? Can you teach me this christian magic?
>>19
No one shits in bottles you goddamned retard
>>21
What anxiety? My anxiousness to kill faggots like you? Yes let me move out into this 'real world' post haste I have A LOT of cleaning up to do!
>>31
Everyone cares what some faggot considers normal, they also care what said 'normal' people think about anything let alone themselves, I'm not going to give a shit what you think when I stab you, am I?
>>48
No sorry, I am not leaving my room just to take a simple piss when I'm chilling, it's quicker and my piss comes very frequently. To have to a) open the door b) walk all that way and c) flush is annoying, not to mention someone might see me outside of my room, which would make me mad and then stab you, yes you because it would be ALL YOUR FAULT.
>>53
You're going to find getting stabbed by me VERY inconvenient.
lololol guy's I'm 53 and I'm totally half like you guys so I totallyyyy know where you're coming from and I really don't sound like someone who this anonymous guy would just love to see offed so that humanity would become closer to being a group that he could ever possibly stand, also being a half hikki i am the authority on what other hikkis think and they totally told me they dont like you guys because you poop in bottles because i know you all do everyday
>>58
IAA doesn't really work. Forced anonymous and whatnot.
> Forced anonymous
you could just sign your posts with gpg or something.
What? What doesn't work, and how does forced anonymous keep "it" from working?
Internet addiction ≠ Hikikomori
Yes, necessarily. You can say that hikkikomori can include internet addiction, but to say that internet addiction alone qualifies as hikkikomori is wrong.
>>66 here,
This is how I'd sign a post in IAA. Also, ID
Hay guys, let's talk about storing poop in bottles again.
>>68
most people don't poop in the bottles, just pee
there'd be no way to get the poop in the bottle unless you like push the bottle neck into your sphincter which would be uncomfortable, or you use a funnel, which would get traces of the poop on it and stink up the room
Wow, I've never noticed this thread before. It's rather pathetic to see people attempting to rationalise away the fact that they're either an incredibly lazy fuck or scared to leave their room, and I say this as a shut-in myself.
>either an incredibly lazy fuck or scared to leave their room
>I say this as a shut-in myself.
So... you are legally obligated to stay inside then?
>>72
Now, I was simply saying that I don't try to make excuses for myself.
That isn't true. There are a number of drinks that come in bottles with very wide mouths. Gatorade, for instance, has a large opening (or it used to, at least), and I think some brands of tea also come in bottles with large mouths.
I am >>1 and I'm laughing my ass off that this thread has lasted so long.
everybody just go back to diapers. all problems solved. astronauts use them too, its not a habit its cool.
I still love >>55 the most:
>No sorry, I am not leaving my room just to take a simple piss when I'm chilling, it's quicker and my piss comes very frequently. To have to a) open the door b) walk all that way and c) flush is annoying, not to mention someone might see me outside of my room, which would make me mad and then stab you, yes you because it would be ALL YOUR FAULT.
Of course, if your body knows that you can piss all the time, it won´t even bother trying to store up in your bladder and just constantly give signals to pee. I never thought I would hear the overly sensitive ´flush is annoying.´
I´d say that a hardcore bottler, who apparently lives for the purpose of propagating bottling, (I really hope the French wine bottlers don´t see this thread) would just chew a lot of xylitol in order to get dairylike diarhea, which could be simply cought and contained by a bottle. see 74 for details!
There was no rationalizing involved. I clearly stated the definition of bottling in >>2, and I then proceeded to counter any arguments that people had against it. People are free not to practice bottling, as it is a personal choice, but I'd prefer it if it wasn't based on faulty, knee-jerk logic.