How can we make 4-ch attract more than 5 people? (142)

1 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-11 07:20 ID:apWM+aZ1

Think of ideas in this topic.

We need something to actually get this place semi-active.

2 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-11 08:20 ID:zFU7Voz/

give me prizezes for coming here. then i will telling people 'you come to 4-ch! look! lookit these nice prizes it gived to me!' and they will say, 'ooo-00ooh, how great 4-ch is! i am going there to make many postings at once!' and so the poeples will come!

3 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-11 18:12 ID:apWM+aZ1

We need some form of advertisement that isn't directly advertising, i.e. making wikis for the site, linking to the site in different places, etc.

Another way is to put it in the signature/info/whatever of any site that you go to. I sometimes click on people who do that for other site, so it may get somebody.

We need to put on something big. Maybe a contest, maybe a niche board (that doesn't cater to 10 people like DQN does), etc.

4 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-11 19:26 ID:ueLdsH4J

someone post about hijacking a bus here before they go hijacking a bus.

5 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-11 19:33 ID:MtcnIZ/b

>>4
I volunteer you.

6 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-11 20:30 ID:Heaven

7 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-11 22:05 ID:Heaven

>>6

This is not a death threat why did you post it

8 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-11 22:24 ID:bqRKNTPw

(__)_) <--- Ass
m-'.'-m <--- Moses

9 Name: Moses : 2007-07-11 22:45 ID:MtcnIZ/b

>>8
Cut it out dickhead that's not funny

10 Name: Ass : 2007-07-11 22:53 ID:Heaven

>>8
Yeah, jerk.

11 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-11 23:10 ID:apWM+aZ1

>>8
If you are trying to make this a meme then you are failing pretty hard.

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14 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-12 01:57 ID:voZHJEzn

we should start making local access shows dedicated to 4-ch

15 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-12 01:59 ID:Heaven

you could also start by making threads that don't suck

16 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-12 02:10 ID:apWM+aZ1

>>12,13,15
Same person.

>>14
That won't work unless someone has connections (which they don't).

Media attention is our biggest problem though. We don't have enough people to do anything major, but I'm sure we could think of something. A big thing right now is youtube, we could do something with that.

17 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-13 03:57 ID:Heaven

>>16
A sudden large influx of new users would likely crash the server or use up allotted bandwidth, making such a move unwise.

18 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-18 10:42 ID:Heaven

Hire nude big-breasted women to advertise it.

19 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-18 22:09 ID:VMHxif8T

The problem is not the lack of users, the problem is that the users who do visit rarely post. And then (some) complain about it.

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21 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-19 20:07 ID:Heaven

>>20
Emoticons tend to give some people a negative impression. I'd recommend abstaining from their use, as well as LOL and the like.

22 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-20 19:58 ID:Heaven

>>21 is deleted by moderator.

23 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-21 05:24 ID:Heaven

>>22 is also deleted by the moderator, and >>23, too.

24 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-24 20:31 ID:DxKCcrRG

>>16
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>>17
this is a true thing that happens! its not a chain letter! its kinda scary at first but it really works!! paste this message into 3 comments and press ALT F4 and your crushes name will appear on the screen!!! its soo wierd

25 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-30 01:19 ID:Heaven

>>24

you are the cancer that is killing general

26 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-30 11:19 ID:mY7aE7wl

>>25
and you are the btard that is killing 4... wait, never mind, 4-ch is already dead.

27 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-30 11:38 ID:v2KBNbGl

>>26
Is the chemo that is killing 4-chan... i mean 4-ch.... erm...

28 Name: Mr. Likes To Age Threads : 2007-07-31 12:47 ID:l5IW2YKY

( ̄へ ̄) Hello. I am "Mr. Likes To Age Threads". I do believe this is a thread in need of Age, so I would like to Age it. That is why my name is "Mr. Likes To Age Threads".

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30 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-31 13:00 ID:mY7aE7wl

lol

31 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-01 16:23 ID:BiAzvEzy

Actually, we root out the /b/-fags, ban them, and then don't do anything. I don't want 15 year old ADD kids running up in Wakachan. Imagine all of the most stupid things.

32 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-02 06:52 ID:mY7aE7wl

>>31

>Wakachan

It is not this board why did you mention it

33 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-03 10:32 ID:SYTTeAx/

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

34 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-08 04:20 ID:Heaven

>>17
Not to mention you'd want to be careful of the type of people we attracted. We don't need an influx of new, stupid people.

35 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-11 13:03 ID:LujMA0Rd

i think this board looks like a japanophile board, which puts off many normal people, especially because it bears a slight resemblance to 4chan. so i propose something like this:
rename

  • anime -> animation
  • manga -> comics

and allow general discussion on western animation and comics as well as anime and manga in those boards. just because this site is inspired by 2ch doesn't mean it has to be heavily biased towards japanese subjects.

36 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-11 14:55 ID:5OG22POC

Yeah, but then we lose the japanophiles, which are currently most of the boards population.

37 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-11 16:25 ID:DVZBMXD9

>>36
i think the japanophiles would stay, it's not like discussion of anime and manga would be banned. it just wouldn't be the sole focus of two boards anymore.

38 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-11 17:23 ID:5OG22POC

Does 2-ch have a seperate section dedicated to foreign comics, or is that stuff worked into the current manga sections?

Seems like 99.99% of either comics or animation would be Japanese, so they probably don't bother.

Might be a valid point, now that I think about it, although maybe it could be "Manga & Comics" and "Animation" as a compromise.

If people see the manga in there, they'll think of anime when they see the "animation" and not be hesitant to post about it, without being turned away from posting about foreign stuff as well.

39 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-11 17:27 ID:5OG22POC

And then of course there's the question of changing the name...

"Futaba" had a distinct name to distinguish itself from its URL "2chan"

We seem to be adopting 4-ch more often than "Channel4 BBS". Maybe we need a nickname, and a distinctive mascot.

40 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-11 18:24 ID:0cRipmHm

>>38

>Does 2-ch have a seperate section dedicated to foreign comics, or is that stuff worked into the current manga sections?

http://anime2.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/comic/1185016786/
http://anime2.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/cartoon/1171188833/

>>35
No offense intended to fans, but how many potential Disney lovers and American comics and BD lovers do you think there are who would be attracted to 4-ch as a result?

41 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-12 05:06 ID:KeSYN81A

Yeah, the only way it would draw more people is if the more neutral name scared fewer people away who might not be into anime/manga/Japanese pop culture. It's questionable whether we'd want to draw such people here though. And I should think they'd be chased off by the very title page anyway.

42 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-12 05:11 ID:KeSYN81A

I do feel we're getting overshadowed by 4chan. Maybe because of our name.

43 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-12 05:31 ID:z2V5WwT5

>>41

Yeah I always thought the purple haired neko girl would draw off people who either hate anime or don't understand the fandom.

44 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-13 13:38 ID:DVZBMXD9

>>41
you're saying you wouldn't want to attract more people who aren't into japanese pop culture? for me the greatest failing of 4-ch is that probably over 50% of its users are somewhat obsessed with it.

45 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-14 01:53 ID:Heaven

2-ch didn't get big by obsessing over American culture, what self-respecting jap would want to visit such a website?

For 4-ch to get as big as 2-ch, it would have to attract everyday people with a wide variety of interests relative to their home culture (but preferably not of the AOL-type regular). Sacrificing the Nippon-centric focus would be a necessary step towards popularity, but I doubt this is what the owner/operators of 4-ch would wish.

46 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-14 09:03 ID:Q+te5IZq

you can make 4-ch attract more people by adding picture functions like 4chan

we westerners need our pics and media. text is boring

47 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-14 10:12 ID:LujMA0Rd

48 Name: 47 : 2007-08-14 10:12 ID:LujMA0Rd

uh. fucked that one.

>>46
i hope you're joking

49 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-14 11:18 ID:lWQRzmjh

>>48
Yeah, I kinda agree. This is one of the 'extremely' few places that actually have ONLY text. Why ruin a good thing?

Well.. All in all, maybe we need something with a big.. OOMPH to really spice up this place, you know what I'm sayin'?

Not like a mascot or anythin, but a big event kinda thing.

50 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-14 12:00 ID:L0fq+9Kw

Maybe if we make wordld4chan suck a whole lot... Well, that'd be hard to extend any further.

Find some gaping vulnerabilities in phpBB/vBulletin that will allow us to change all of them to links here.

51 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-14 15:23 ID:mZ6zAPMJ

The kind of community I want to see at 4-ch consists of some people that would run away because of either the name (similarity to 4chan) and the neko girl on the front page.

What I really want to see is a 4-ch with a userbase of mostly intelligent, rational and fun people, people that aren't afraid to be a little DQN once in a while but also contribute worthwhile ideas to various discussion topics. Of course, this is a Utopian dream...there's no way 4-ch itself can get away from its name and its anime-fan userbase, and the chances of a new anonymous board without all the anime connotations arising and becoming successful is pitifully low.

52 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-14 16:41 ID:RwHfA52K

One of the reasons may be that few Japanese people understand English. If we could draw more Japanese, the site could get much bigger.

53 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-14 19:25 ID:z2V5WwT5

We should get all the English speaking Japanese to come over.

54 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-14 20:12 ID:PlVTzYLT

I know! I know!

Instead of a neko-girl in a box, for the front page we should have....

A pot! No, a vase!!

Yes, but here's the twist...

Our vase will have a plant in it!

55 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-19 17:00 ID:QjqcpqbQ

Heh. What plant? A dandelion? A lily? A sunflower? An orchid?

56 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-19 17:05 ID:MtcnIZ/b

> Our vase will have ... A pot ... plant in it!

57 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-19 19:18 ID:g+yOeyVq

>>56

Mana Tree?

58 Name: sage : 2007-08-20 23:53 ID:XXo/Nwd0

This board sucks and here's your reason:

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59 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-21 02:23 ID:z2V5WwT5

>>58

Mods are fags everywhere.

60 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-21 04:35 ID:mKr/n+iA

We should get FOX News to accuse us of being domestic terrorists. That'll attract some new attendees.

61 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-21 11:05 ID:fB7SktCZ

>>58

Don't be ridiculous.

62 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-21 11:22 ID:reTQhC5W

THis texboard is good, since it hasn't so many trolls like it does on the 4Chan-Board ;)

But something similar big to the textboard 2Ch in ENglish would be nice though.

63 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-21 16:39 ID:Heaven

Better yet, if we want to turn this place into Wapanese Central, why not just close 4-ch and move to 2ch /english/.

64 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-21 16:55 ID:5OG22POC

What, make individual DQN threads?

65 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-21 18:34 ID:reTQhC5W

>>63 good idea^^

4-CH and 2-CH should fuse together!!

66 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-21 21:45 ID:1apl4QQn

Make /code/ less serious, more relaxed. We're anonymous after all, no reputation to hold on to.

67 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-22 11:33 ID:Heaven

I have found the flaw in your cunning plan. There are only five people on the internet.

68 Name: sage : 2007-08-22 14:06 ID:Xpf5FMLi

Here's an idea:

Instead of trying to mirror 2ch, why not just try and make 4-ch more original? The problem with all the *channels and *chans is that they all try to imitate the originals (2ch, 4chan, etc).

69 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-22 15:43 ID:YARWZ5EB

>>68

It's worked pretty damned good so far.

But, I think the site is fine. No need to add anything, no need to take it.

70 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-22 16:42 ID:5OG22POC

You know if everyone who already comes here read and posted more often, we'd have a pretty active community. Everybody should just quit their jobs and troll on 4-ch for a living.

71 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-22 20:19 ID:kd3fK4rI

^^ ♡♥♡☼♨ We should offer free cookies! ♨☼ ♡♥♡ ^^

72 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-23 01:02 ID:d1J08k8q

I am actually a little surprised, the fact that i have been here since 2004.. oh my god....

...

..and i actually thought this place would "take off" but it never did.

I mean, it's still slow and i know i shouldn't complain because i dont do shit to improve on it and im hardly even here..
but seriously, what the fuck?

73 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-23 18:31 ID:bLivcFB2

>>72
I am the same way. It is somehow depressing.

74 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-23 21:31 ID:y4+S09v2

>>72>>73

Here as well

75 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-23 22:18 ID:fB7SktCZ

Plus, with at least three small spinoffs that are more entertaining, 4-ch is remaining a useless doorway.

76 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-24 10:27 ID:+jS1VVzO

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77 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-24 22:36 ID:Heaven

>>32
Becuase he's a new moron, obviously.

>>50
No matter how much world4chan sucks it will always be better than this place and always get posts. Why? Well primarily because of the truly elitist superstructure of the userbase, secondly and the first to be appearent, the mittens mentality. It's gay and annoying on top of sucking shit.

78 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-28 02:06 ID:Heaven

>>76
Agreed, mkerwuel'bul.

79 Name: Anonymous : 2007-09-26 18:50 ID:08xzsH9O

don't worry you guys, i am basically a newcomer here

now that 4chan is a retarded fail-filled shadow of its former self, smaller communtities like this are becoming much more appealing

places like this with more of a niche appeal arent flooded by 12year old faggots looking for the newest meme and some funny pics, etc, they have completely killed 4chan

here there is a base in reality, many here are actually hikkis and otaku and have problems, making it interesting and always full of content unlike 4chan which has become extceedingly shallow

also, you talk of spinoffs? i wasnt aware of any other, especially more popular, BBSs. Could you give me some links?

80 Name: Anonymous : 2007-09-26 23:58 ID:C5X9QnH0

I'm a new person here too, been pretty active in the last few months.

81 Name: Anonymous : 2007-09-27 00:05 ID:U5RfMXTb

fuck off newfags

82 Name: Anonymous : 2007-09-27 01:28 ID:K/YNbEHb

I figured out the answer

You can't

83 Name: Anonymous : 2007-09-27 05:22 ID:nHJPD5R6

We've talked about this in other threads. Reduce the number of forums to just the active ones so n00bs don't come here, look in 40 forums, find nothing, and decide this must be dead. We say this alot. Have the mods forsaken us?

84 Name: Anonymous : 2007-09-27 07:45 ID:Heaven

I really disagree with making away with the forums that aren't active. I am however all for clearly listing what forums have been the most active ones lately, that can impossibly be anything but great. Listing latest activity date for each forum really does seem like one of the most important parts in reviving this place.

85 Name: Anonymous : 2007-09-27 08:55 ID:nHJPD5R6

>>84
Yes! Sold!

86 Name: Anonymous : 2007-09-27 14:40 ID:slDagb+4

Than we might as well rename it DQN Channel.

87 Name: Anonymous : 2007-09-27 16:06 ID:YARWZ5EB

Viral advertising.

Everyone put "4-ch.net" on a light board, and hang it somewhere in Boston.

88 Name: Anonymous : 2007-09-28 15:37 ID:Heaven

>>87
Ahahaha. I am however tempted to start using 4-ch related banners/images (with this URL, of course) as forum sigs/avatars.

89 Name: Anonymous : 2007-09-28 16:46 ID:Heaven

>>88
not knowing what type off forums you frequent, I'd strongly discourage this action

90 Name: Anonymous : 2007-09-30 06:41 ID:5Zf37BYt

I'm new as well, and I came here hoping for the kind of discussion found in 2ch. I wasn't really expecting it though. I make no claim to Japanese superiority, but they seem to handle the internet a lot better than we do. Something about the internet, perhaps. I think our best bet for new, good users is to have every non-hikkimori here tell all their friends about the place.

91 Name: Anonymous : 2007-09-30 07:27 ID:IPKOBnGm

hmmm... as for trying to attract more english speakers to 4-ch (specifically americans and canadians), cultural differences obviously play a large role... i think that americans dont typically like the anonymous aspect as much as many japanese do-- americans are generally more individualistic and less worried about saving-face... so the complete anonymous factor just really doesnt translate well for american audiences.

also, americans obviously like asking questions and looking up answers... otherwise Wikipedia and Yahoo! Answers wouldnt be as popular as they are. so its not as though americans are uninterested in learning new things and exploring topics on the net...

personally, i always have found japanese websites to be wordy and ugly. 2-ch is an ugly site. and 4-ch is too... it reminds me of windows 3.1... outdated and blah. while i realize thats not the point of a forum like this, i think that the way a website looks really affects how popular it will become with americans. i think americans like the flashier websites that additionally have more networking capabilities. in general, perhaps they really like more visual characteristics-- pictures of people, avatars, signatures, videos of funny things, cat macros... whatever! for example, yahoo answers has personalized avatars, screen names, a point system to show off your status... etc. these are all things most americans value in a website.

also the topics here on 4-ch prove that it's really only for people who are interested in japanese culture-- so, being that this site was made by densha otoko fans, it's going to be biased and appeal mostly only to other densha otoko fans. Maybe this isn't even what people want, but in order to get 4-ch to become a commonplace website in American homes, it certainly needs to be ran and moderated by people interested in things that don't include anime, manga, otaku lifestyle, etc. not that these things are bad, they certainly belong here, but it really just doesn't appeal to anybody but a very very very very small proportion of Americans (although it is certainly a growing number).

anyway, i certainly see why this site is not going to catch on here in the states-- after watching densha otoko, i was excited to see if 4-ch was anything like 2-ch. but, while i'm disappointed, it really is to be expected!

basically, i guess for 4-ch to be popular with americans, it really has to be geared towards what americans like. that seems pretty simple huh?

hope my 2 cents helps!

92 Name: Anonymous : 2007-09-30 16:54 ID:apWM+aZ1

>>91
No, then it wouldn't be 4-ch. I agree we should give this place some more Americanization, but that should be done with the topics and boards, not by adding avatars and invisionfree crap.

Viral marketing is the best way.

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