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1 Name: Anonymous : 2009-05-23 02:43 ID:Wc0ZBXbO

When I'm sober = OH fuck you man, I'm a depressed hikikomori, fuck therapy what the fuck has it done for me
WHen I've had a 7 beers = Oh fuck I love you gusy, you're all so awesonme

No seriously 4-ch, I fuckign love you guys, man shit.

beer = fucking greatest invention of all time

10 Name: Anonymous : 2009-06-07 09:04 ID:Heaven

>>9
and I hate people who are eager to label someone that if he says something positive about Cannabis.

> Pot is not harmless. It can increase throat and lung cancer.

Citation and methods of consumption. Studies that say such things usually talk about european joints, which are a mix of cannabis and tobbaco, consumed without a filter (just a roach, which doesn't filter anything). Because of this, the tobacco does a bigger damage than it would in a filtered cigarette.

I won't lie here, smoking DOES damage your respiratory system whatever it is that you're smoking. But you don't have to smoke it. There's various consumption methods such as eating, which are not harmful to you at all. Vaporizing can minimize the damage.

Lastly, Cannabis has never been linked to a cancer by a credible study. You don't get cancer by Cannabis.

No, it's not panacea. But one of its effects is to make an individual happier. I also warned the OP that it might worsen his case, which means it would make him more depressed. I'm aware of the psychological dangers of Cannabis, so I warned him.

> In some cases, pot has increase social disorders like schizophrenia, depression and attention hyperactive disorder.

I don't want to discuss with you if you're going to cite propaganda sources because I'm wondering who you are. Yes, depression. That is true, and it's what I WARNED the OP about. As for schizophrenia, nothing is proven, but you'd be eager to cite an unscientific source anyway wouldn't you? As for AHD, I don't know.

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11 Name: Anonymous : 2009-06-07 09:05 ID:Heaven

continuing from >>10

> Pot and LSD is the only drug that lab animals have avoided because of its psychedelic qualities.

WHAT? I don't think you realize how brainwashed you are.

First, why should it matter that lab animals avoid those drugs? Are you saying that they have a liking for all other drugs?

Second, where did you hear that they avoid those drugs, and what does it mean to avoid the drug? Don't you realize they're being injected with drugs directly in their bloodstream to control the exact dose, and there woudn't be a possible way to "avoid" this, or for the animal to know that it's going to be injected with Cannabis, or LSD or some other drug; so it's pretty fuckng impossible for lab animals to "avoid" those specific drugs. You're either lying or you heard this from someone who is lying.

> Pot is not harmless stop thinking it is.

Cannabis is harmless actually. Here's various ways to consume Cannabis, from most harmful to least.

  • smoking joint with mixed tobacco: harmless because of the tobacco, harmless because you inhale smoke
  • smoking joints only with cannabis: harmless because of the plant matter, and because you smoke
  • water pipe: the plant matter is captured in water, but you still inhale smoke, so certain damage is done to the r. system
  • vaporizer: the plant is heated enough for the THC to leave in the atmosphere. 99% safe, because you inhale only THC and some other harmless chemicals, no plant matter, minimum smoke
  • eating: that's right, you can eat Cannabis and get stoned. It's far the most harmless way to get high, you can cook it, you can mix it with food, you can eat it as is.

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12 Name: Anonymous : 2009-06-07 09:05 ID:Heaven

continuing from >>11

Because eating is harmless, it renders all arguments "Cannabis is harmful physically" useless.

Let's take a look at the mental state now. Yes, Cannabis might lead to depression, after long use. It is not clear whether that is the effect of meditation or the drug use, or that simply the drug use enhances hte possibilities to be depressed.

I would ask you for a single drug that has no mental side effects if you consume it under a daily basis. You can probably answer none, but Cannabis is one of those drugs if you consume it responsibly. You don't get high if you're sad, because you'll only feel worse. It enhances feelings, it doesn't improve them.

It is also not clear whether schizophrenia and AHD are the result of the drug being illegal. You forgot to mention paranoia which is another infamous effect of Cannabis. Paranoia is such a suspect; it occurs because the drug is illegal, for if it were legal there wouldn't be much an individual would have to be paranoid about.

I noticed you mention "Pot", but please, do not call it pot. If you want to have a serious discussion, call it Cannabis (capitalization not required - I only capitalize because it's a name). That is the name of the plant. "Pot" is slang; "Marijuana" is a propaganda term.

I want to question, are you aware of the answers for the question "Why is Cannabis illegal?"? Have you followed the plant through history to find out what people used to think of it and what they think now?

Are you aware of the dangers that Cannabis set for the synthetic fiber industry back in 1930, prior to its illegalization, for example?

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13 Name: Anonymous : 2009-06-07 09:06 ID:Heaven

continuing from >>12

Back to the real discussion, Cannabis is only a drug, and quite a harmless one. I use it because it helps me, and because OP was in need of help, I suggested it. Then you came here, implying I'm someone who praises Cannabis like a God, then you spout some propaganda on us, and lying remarks.

It shows because you mentioned LSD even though I haven't mentioned LSD. Why it's a sign to mention both Cannabis and LSD as dangerous? BECAUSE THEY'RE OF THE FEW DRUGS, THAT ARE IN FACT, COMPLETELY HARMLESS.

That is right. LSD is harmless. Go read Hofmanns "My Problem Child", and you'll be quite informed, scientifically, from a scientist, who also happened to be the creator of LSD.

Hofmann in his book mentions an indifference to LSD for most lab animals, due to LSD functioning in the highest layers of the psyche, which lab animals do not have.

YOU'RE A LIAR

If these are your genuine and honest opinions, then PLEASE reconsider. Read what I said carefully and think. Post again with your thoughts and I'll answer any questions with honesty.

HOWEVER, if you're someone who wants to spread propaganda - fuck off. I'll counter-cite every citation of yours and reveal every propaganda research you're going to post. There's many of them. GO LEARN SOME HISTORY. 1937 is an interesting year; it's the year Cannabis was illegalized. 1943 was the first time Hofmann tried LSD. It's all described in his book.

He'll explain what LSD is made of; he'll explain the dangers, he'll explain the trips, he'll explain the psychological uses of LSD, and why certain tests that were conducted were unsuccessful while others succeeded.

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